Gaybo admits to drinking & driving

easyeason3

So the wizened old raisin has told us he regularly had a few drinks & drove home.
I never really liked him, he reminds me of a talking raisin that says 'ho' a lot.

Is there anyone else who would like to clap him on the back for being honest about it?

And before the do gooders get their knickers in a twist I'm not suggesting he gets a applauded for getting away with drinking & driving.

stevoman

easyeason3 wrote: »

So the wizened old raisin has told us he regularly had a few drinks & drove home.
I never really liked him, he reminds me of a talking raisin that says 'ho' a lot.

Is there anyone else who would like to clap him on the back for being honest about it?

And before the do gooders get their knickers in a twist I'm not suggesting he gets a applauded for getting away with drinking & driving.

thats not the smartest thing in the world to be coming out with considering all the preaching he's been doing. but of course back in the 80's its seems every tom dick and harry was drink driving.

WindSock

Diddie? When? Bit Hypocritical if so.

Pop's Diner

easyeason3 wrote: »

So the wizened old raisin has told us he regularly had a few drinks & drove home.
I never really liked him, he reminds me of a talking raisin that says 'ho' a lot.

Is there anyone else who would like to clap him on the back for being honest about it?

And before the do gooders get their knickers in a twist I'm not suggesting he gets a applauded for getting away with drinking & driving.

Why's he telling us now? Was he trying to beat some dirt-dishing expose to the punch or something?

Drink drivers are scum imho.

InkSlinger67

Different time back then - less cars on the road, no taxis, etc.. It was socially acceptable and necessary for some!

Move along, nothing to see here!

WindSock

Oh right. Sure if it's back in the day then who cares? It wasn't as illegal then.

toiletduck

I'm sure most of his generation did. Big deal (as long as it wasn't last week like).

WindSock

WindSock wrote: »

Oh right. Sure if it's back in the day then who cares? It wasn't as illegal then.

Everybody did the drink driving thing back in the day. I dont know a single person of my parents age or even younger who didnt drive home from the pub after drinking including guards etc.

It was the done thing in them days. The term drink driving as we know it didnt exist.

Sam Vimes

WindSock wrote: »

Oh right. Sure if it's back in the day then who cares? It wasn't as illegal then.

It's alright. They hadn't invented car crashes in the 80's

Rented Mule

Guilty as charged your honour.

The only thing looked down upon drink driving back then was actually getting done for it.

Owen

To be fair, if I was married to Kathleen Watkins, I'd probably be drunk the whole time too.

mickos

Ariella Crooked Blackjack wrote: »

Everybody did the drink driving thing back in the day. I dont know a single person of my parents age or even younger who didnt drive home from the pub after drinking including guards etc.

It was the done thing in them days. The term drink driving as we know it didnt exist.

My dad was at a going away party for a garda moving stations last saturday night. He got chatting to a guy standing at the bar sipping a couple of pints wearing a jacket zipped up to the neck. Turns out he had a garda uniform on underneath, said he could get a call at any minute as he was on duty. Didn't stop him having 2 pints while my dad was talking to him. God bless our fantastic gardai:rolleyes:

amacachi

Scumbag.

veryangryman

Nobody wore seat belts in those days either and people drove faster. Ive heard stories of drives from Newtown-Forbes to O Connel Street Dublin in an hour

I for one was never insisted upon to put on a seat belt from my folks and im sure plenty of others were same. I have also been driven back from Derry by an auld fella who had 4 beers in Boyle on the way back.

The point is, policital correctness is gone absolutely mad. People should have the cop to know what they should and shouldnt do. Know your limits, not in a police state sort of way, but "know the one thats one too many".

The Black Oil

We should call Joe.

amacachi

veryangryman wrote: »

Know your limits, not in a police state sort of way, but "know the one thats one too many".

And alcohol only sharpens one's ability to know how drunk one is.

veryangryman

mickos wrote: »

My dad was at a going away party for a garda moving stations last saturday night. He got chatting to a guy standing at the bar sipping a couple of pints wearing a jacket zipped up to the neck. Turns out he had a garda uniform on underneath, said he could get a call at any minute as he was on duty. Didn't stop him having 2 pints while my dad was talking to him. God bless our fantastic gardai:rolleyes:

Again with the correctness gone mad.

He is ONE MAN. Not the Gardai

So God bless HIM is what you were meant to say.

God..I used to think that boards was full of intelligent people :rolleyes:

veryangryman

amacachi wrote: »

And alcohol only sharpens one's ability to know how drunk one is.

It sharpens plenty of peoples enough to know to get a taxi at 3am on a Saturday. Hence the roaring trade at these hours. Do you think they pick up mainly sober people who are thinking "hic i'll be well able to take the wheel"

amacachi

veryangryman wrote: »

It sharpens plenty of peoples enough to know to get a taxi at 3am on a Saturday. Hence the roaring trade at these hours. Do you think they pick up mainly sober people who are thinking "hic i'll be well able to take the wheel"

Do you think that maybe just some of those people don't have their car with them?

seamus

amacachi wrote: »

Do you think that maybe just some of those people don't have their car with them?

The vast majority of people know when they're drunk and incapable of driving, it's nothing to do with not having your car with you. How many times have you been drinking at home and then gotten a taxi into town? Why didn't you drive, you were drunk, right?

Drink-driving is by and large a conscious decision which is made before the person starts drinking, or which is made while they're still lucid. I don't know of anyone who had a few and randomly decided to get in their vehicle.

It's worth noting on Gaybo's thing that as pointed out on a different forum, the "standard" for drink-driving has constantly changed.

Before my time there was:
"Four and no more"
then
"Just two will do"

And in my time there has been:
"Never, ever drink and drive"

It's only very recently that any state body or indeed any safety organisation has been pushing the "don't drink at all if you're driving" message. For a long, long time it was seen as perfectly acceptable to have a couple of drinks over the course of the night and drive home.

The fact that's frowned upon now is irrelevant - you cannot apply today's standards on people's past actions. You can say, "Yes, in hindsight that was wrong", but operating within the standards of the day doesn't necessarily make someone a "bad person".

thelordofcheese

veryangryman wrote: »

Nobody wore seat belts in those days either and people drove faster. Ive heard stories of drives from Newtown-Forbes to O Connel Street Dublin in an hour

I for one was never insisted upon to put on a seat belt from my folks and im sure plenty of others were same. I have also been driven back from Derry by an auld fella who had 4 beers in Boyle on the way back.

The point is, policital correctness is gone absolutely mad. People should have the cop to know what they should and shouldnt do. Know your limits, not in a police state sort of way, but "know the one thats one too many".

Not that alcohol is known for imparing your judgement at all.
This really is the worst kind of crap.

cruiser178

veryangryman wrote: »

Again with the correctness gone mad.

He is ONE MAN. Not the Gardai

So God bless HIM is what you were meant to say.

God..I used to think that boards was full of intelligent people :rolleyes:

why on earth wood u tink tha

amacachi

seamus wrote: »

The vast majority of people know when they're drunk and incapable of driving, it's nothing to do with not having your car with you. How many times have you been drinking at home and then gotten a taxi into town? Why didn't you drive, you were drunk, right?

Firstly, that's never happened. Secondly usually when someone starts drinking they've already decided they won't be driving, they don't make up their mind as they're about to leave.

The fact that veryangryman is trying to say that deciding when you've been drinking whether or not you've drank too much to drink is how it should is somewhat worrying if that's standard thinking around here.

TobyZiegler

Maybe the point of him saying it now is to say to the older generation - 'yeah I was the same as everyone else back then, drink driving was the norm, but its not now.'

It might be easier for some of the older people to take his advice and 'preaching' if they realise he was just like them and everyone else of that generation.

veryangryman

amacachi wrote: »

The fact that veryangryman is trying to say that deciding when you've been drinking whether or not you've drank too much to drink is how it should is somewhat worrying if that's standard thinking around here.

Where did i "try to say" that? My point is that anyone of the older generation who took the car to have the 2 or 4 or whatever amount of drinks knew how much they would drink that night and what their own limit was. You wouldnt see them wrecklessly chugging and then grabbing the keys.

To be honest, i think that people could be trusted to be responsible back in the day. Not so any more, hence this pseudo-police state and political correctness farce that has occurred.

Does anyone have figures for road deaths back in 80s/90s? Were they really that horrific in comparison with what we have now?

drunkmonkey

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

Different time back then - less cars on the road, no taxis, etc.. It was socially acceptable and necessary for some!

Not much has changed, it's now safer to drink and drive with improved saftey features in cars and it's also still necessary for some, due to no public transport service!

rubadub

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

Different time back then - less cars on the road, no taxis, etc.. It was socially acceptable and necessary for some!

No taxi's? I know he is old but I didn't think taxis were such a new phenomenon, also people did have feet back then.

It was legal so I do not see the big deal, it would be like him saying "I used to smoke in a pub back in the day" -oh you cruel heartless bastard, did you not realise the threat you posed you selfish prick.

seamus

veryangryman wrote: »

Does anyone have figures for road deaths back in 80s/90s? Were they really that horrific in comparison with what we have now?

Yes.
Year | Fatalities/m. vehicles | Fatalities/m. pop. |Injuries/m. vehicles | Injuries/m. pop.
1997|330|129|9,156|3,580
1998|303|124|8,454|3,450
1999|257|110|7,673|3,300
2000|247|110|7,159|3,180
2001|232|107|5,776|2,660
2002|203|96|4,976|2,350
2003|173|84|4,264|2,080
2004|184|92|3,863|1,950
2005|185|96|4,357|2,260
2006|159|86|3,734|2,020
2007|138|78|3,197|1,803

amacachi

veryangryman wrote: »

Where did i "try to say" that? My point is that anyone of the older generation who took the car to have the 2 or 4 or whatever amount of drinks knew how much they would drink that night and what their own limit was. You wouldnt see them wrecklessly chugging and then grabbing the keys.

To be honest, i think that people could be trusted to be responsible back in the day. Not so any more, hence this pseudo-police state and political correctness farce that has occurred.

Does anyone have figures for road deaths back in 80s/90s? Were they really that horrific in comparison with what we have now?

"know the one thats one too many"

Or did you just mean the first?

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=138 There's every year back to 2001, about a 30% drop in road deaths from 2001 to last year, can't find the older stats yet, they've changed the site since last time I was on. Also bear in mind that there are more cars on the road and more miles driven, so the fall in fatalities is even better than the initial figure looks.

veryangryman

seamus wrote: »

Yes.
Year | Fatalities/m. vehicles | Fatalities/m. pop. |Injuries/m. vehicles | Injuries/m. pop.
1997|330|129|9,156|3,580
1998|303|124|8,454|3,450
1999|257|110|7,673|3,300
2000|247|110|7,159|3,180
2001|232|107|5,776|2,660
2002|203|96|4,976|2,350
2003|173|84|4,264|2,080
2004|184|92|3,863|1,950
2005|185|96|4,357|2,260
2006|159|86|3,734|2,020
2007|138|78|3,197|1,803

Cheers but... Can you stretch that back to 80s when i was a lad

amacachi

http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=5540&lang=ENG&loc=1801

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easyeason3 wrote: »

I never really liked him, he reminds me of a talking raisin that says 'ho' a lot.

That's brilliant.

General Zod

Let's go drinking and driving,
after the christmas disco
Let's go drinking and driving
and put innocent lives at risk

Ohhh let's go drinking and driving,
For as far as I can see
If it's good enough for Uncle Gaybo
then it's good enough for me.

WindSock

Sam Vimes wrote: »

It's alright. They hadn't invented car crashes in the 80's

I can blame the Immigants then.

BnA

seamus wrote: »

The vast majority of people know when they're drunk and incapable of driving, it's nothing to do with not having your car with you. How many times have you been drinking at home and then gotten a taxi into town? Why didn't you drive, you were drunk, right?

Drink-driving is by and large a conscious decision which is made before the person starts drinking, or which is made while they're still lucid. I don't know of anyone who had a few and randomly decided to get in their vehicle.
.....

I wouldn't really agree with that.

I would see that most drink driving that is done down my way, the decision to drive is made when drunk.

We were talking about it in the pub the other evening. After 3 or 4 pints none of us would dream of driving. You know, if you're stopped, you'd be buggered. However, after 9 or 10 pints if you come out the door of the pub, your car is there..... HHmmmmm will I walk home in the rain....?

As one fella said, he got a call from a friend of his one Sunday afternoon. Yer man was in a pub after having 2 pints and didn't want to drive. So my friend went and picked him up and brought him 3 miles down the road to another pub that's beside his house and left him there. Then at about 9 o clock that night he got another call from him after he had been drinking all day. He wanted my friend to come and collect him to take him back to the first pub he was in so he could get his car to bring it home as he needed it for work the next day...!!!!!

So after 2 pints he wouldn't drive home, but after 10, he actually wanted to go back to get the car and drive it home.

andybdub

Ah good auld gaybo blowin hot air out his arse talkin crap. He shud of never accepted that job knowing he had been drink driving in the first place never mind getting into the argument about it being ok back in the day. He accepted that job not too long ago when drink driving was not ok, tut tut gaybo

javaboy

veryangryman wrote: »

Again with the correctness gone mad.

He is ONE MAN. Not the Gardai

So God bless HIM is what you were meant to say.

God..I used to think that boards was full of intelligent people :rolleyes:

Watch the veiled personal abuse please.