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sky install on a pole!

  • 01-07-2009 1:03pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3


    Hi, had sky out a few months back to try and install their system. They failed and said some trees at the side of my house were blocking reception and they couldnt do it.
    Since i have made another appointment for them to come out, and need to get setup with a pole in the back of the garden where i'm pretty sure they will get reception.
    Any idea how tall the pole needs to be, where i can get on, and how best to fix it, should i leave it mobile till sky come so they can find the perfect spot, then fix it? put it in a bucket of cement, so it would be a bit mobile for adjustments, or just have the pole and get them to fix it to the back garden wall?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Height is irrelevant- you need a clear view with the horizon- regardless of what height you have to go to achieve this. You also need the pole to be sufficiently anchored to withstand high wind- note: if it moves at all, you can be virtually guaranteed a degraded signal.

    You are joking about a bucket of cement?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 pgalvin


    OK, so how can i find the perfect postion to anchor the pole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Sam Radford


    Trigonometry, or a protractor and a bit of string. Assuming the Astra-2 satellite cluster is at an elevation of at least 20 degrees above the horizon at your location, make sure the dish has a clear view of that patch of sky in the relevant direction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 pgalvin


    If in Dub 15- blanchardstown, what direction on a compas would the cluster be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    South/south east.
    Forget Sky,go to a local independent installer and get a popper survey done.
    Check your local paper small ad's.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Sam Radford


    See http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/satmeter.htm
    Scroll down to "Find out which way to point your dish!"
    Type in blanchardstown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭djt0607


    smccarrick wrote: »
    Height is irrelevant- you need a clear view with the horizon- regardless of what height you have to go to achieve this. You also need the pole to be sufficiently anchored to withstand high wind- note: if it moves at all, you can be virtually guaranteed a degraded signal.

    You are joking about a bucket of cement?

    "Height is irrelevant", ehh...no its not! If a tree is 4 metres high and you install the dish on the pole at 4 metres up, its going to get a reception coz the angle the dish is facing will clear the top of the trees...however, if a tree is 4 metres high and you can only install the dish 3 metres up on the pole, you aren't gonna get a signal...therefore HEIGHT IS NOT IRRELEVANT!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    djt0607 wrote: »
    "Height is irrelevant", ehh...no its not! If a tree is 4 metres high and you install the dish on the pole at 4 metres up, its going to get a reception coz the angle the dish is facing will clear the top of the trees...however, if a tree is 4 metres high and you can only install the dish 3 metres up on the pole, you aren't gonna get a signal...therefore HEIGHT IS NOT IRRELEVANT!

    I did say- you need a clear view with the horizon....... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Wouldn't wind blowing the dish on the pole cause frequent loss of signal?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    the_syco wrote: »
    Wouldn't wind blowing the dish on the pole cause frequent loss of signal?

    Depends on how well its anchored- but it would be a definite issue (hence- putting it in a bucket of cement is hardly a good idea).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Verso


    smccarrick wrote: »
    Depends on how well its anchored- but it would be a definite issue (hence- putting it in a bucket of cement is hardly a good idea).

    Just read these postings.

    I do have a dish mounted on a 5 foot fencing post sunk approx 15 inches in cement. The post is also supported by a stay attached to a low garden wall. The dish is very steady and I receive 90% to 100% constant strength and quality. This arrangement is situated back about 25 metres from the rear of my house but does 'look' through a gap to the south between trees and the house.

    As previous threads have pointed out everything depends on circumstances existing at the site in question.

    Other concerns about having a dish at such a level involve hitting it with say a lawnmower, hedge clippers or just people enjoying the garden and knocking into the dish by accident.


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