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Car scam fraud. Who would you report it to?
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01-07-2009 12:21pm#1Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭Join Date:Posts: 15163
Guys
Spent the last 20 minutes "buying" a car off a lad there online, in Spain, through shipping agent bla bla bla
Gave me the bank details to transfer to and a website. It was a live chat thingy.
I have the script at the bottom if u want a laugh.
Who do I report him to?
Thanks
Adam Graham: Hi I got cut off there
You are now speaking with Luis Martin of support.
Luis Martin: No problem
Adam Graham: Do u have the details there of the car?
Adam Graham: I am VERY excited about it!
Luis Martin: If you pay today and send the payment confirmation, we can send the car today and will be there by Friday afternon
Luis Martin: Please let me have the seller's name and the vehicle type
Adam Graham: The car is an 2006 Audi
Adam Graham: 2006 AUDI A6 S LINE TDI BLACK
Adam Graham: That is the details
Luis Martin: Please bear with me while I search the vehicle in the data base.
Adam Graham: Thank u
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Adam Graham: THat is GREAT news about the delivery!!!
Adam Graham: do I owe you more for this?
Luis Martin: I have found the car as being a 2006 AUDI A6 S LINE TDI ,Black colour,68,000 miles,price 6,499 pounds,owner:Charles Trimble
Luis Martin: The seller has already agreed to use our third party services. This means that we will act as a third party and guarantee your payment, same as the vehicle itself. Are you familiar with our 6 steps transaction?
Adam Graham: Excellent!
Adam Graham: thats it, lovely motor
Adam Graham: ok
Adam Graham: please tell me
Luis Martin: Please follow me and I will explain.
Luis Martin: I will copy paste the steps for you;please read them carefully and ask if any question occurs
Luis Martin: 1. Both parties agree to terms of the transaction, which includes a full and accurate description of the merchandise, sale price, number of days for the Buyer's inspection (2-3 days).
2. We will provide you the payment details.
3. You will have to submit the payment, by bank transfer, into our bank account in maximum 12 hours after you will receive the payment details. The money will remain in our account and will NOT be forwarded to the seller until the buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle.
4. As soon as the vehicle leaves our warehouse we will send you the tracking number.
5. The Buyer has a number of 2-3 days for an inspection and the option to accept or reject the vehicle.
6. If the buyer accepts the vehicle, we will forward the payment to the seller. Should you dislike the vehicle for any reason, we will refund you in FULL in maximum 48 hours and return the vehicle to the seller at his expense.
Luis Martin: I can also see in the data base that there are two buyers on hold since they are waiting for the bank approval.
Adam Graham: For this car?
Adam Graham: He told me I was only 1
Luis Martin: Yes
Adam Graham: so how are there 2 more?
Adam Graham: SO I prepay?
Luis Martin: they are waiting to get the funds in order to buy the vehicle.As soon they will get the funds they will contact us so we can provide the payment details in order to make the transfer of the funds
Adam Graham: So I can't buy the car then
Adam Graham: that is disappointing
Luis Martin: If you want to buy the vehicle you must provide us the following details:
1. Full name
2. Delivery address
3. Phone number / Fax Number
4. Email address
Luis Martin: As soon as we receive your details we will immediately forward you the payment details and payment instructions.
Adam Graham: Ok
Adam Graham: Adam Graham
Adam Graham: Delivery to:
Adam Graham: Cnoc Mhuire, Theavnacragh, An Cathair Rua, Connemara, Co Galway
Adam Graham: Phone:
Luis Martin: ?
Adam Graham: 35391595102
Adam Graham: what else do I need?
Luis Martin: e-mail address
Adam Graham: Oh sorry, this car will go to my nephews email is ok
Adam Graham: NoelKelly@carraroeGS.ie
Luis Martin: Please give me an e-mail address to send you payment info.
Adam Graham: I am not at the house at the moment, but if you ask for Noel that will do.
Adam Graham: can u speed it up and send me payment details here on screen?
Adam Graham: I can do payment ASAP
Luis Martin: Ok ... please bea
r a moment
Adam Graham: ok thank u
Adam Graham: Any joy
Luis Martin: Here are the payment details as requested:
BANK NAME:BANCO SANTANDER
ACCOUNT NUMBER:0049 6797 4126 9503 8563
IBAN:ES37 0049 6797 4126 9503 8563
BIC (SWIFT): BSCHESMMXXX
BANK ADDRESS:AV. GUINDALERA 9,28100 ALCOBENDAS MADRID
Please make the payment to Mr. Lotarynski Sebastian Michal,our director manager who will be in charge with this sale and the shipping process.As soon as we receive your payment confirmation by fax(0034-91-184-98-39) and email the car will be reserved under your name and as soon your payment will be confirmed by our bank we will begin the shipment process and you will receive from us a tracking number so you can track the vehicle on the way to you. Please note that you have to choose URGENT TRANSFER so we can receive the confirmation from our bank in 48 hours. If you have to specify a reason for payment please write Payment Invoice # 839/2009.
Adam Graham: Great, can I ring bank to ensure they will receive payment?
Adam Graham: What is final total
Adam Graham: I will transfer soon
Luis Martin: I will call ... but you have to fax or e-mail us the copy of the receipt from your bank in order to begin the delivery to your address.
Adam Graham: Oh! , I am doing this from internet banking!!!
Adam Graham: I have no receipt!
Adam Graham: I can do it immediately
Adam Graham: Are the other 2 parties still trying to get the car also?
Luis Martin: At the moment they are waiting to get funds from the bnk ...
Luis Martin: bank
Adam Graham: ok,
Adam Graham: I am going to transfer now
Adam Graham: Is that ok?
Adam Graham: but how much?
Adam Graham: 6400 pounds?
Luis Martin: It's ok
Adam Graham: Sorry?
Luis Martin: 6,499
Adam Graham: Ok
Adam Graham: I will do it now
Luis Martin: pounds
Adam Graham: I transfer the money now, is that happy with you?
Luis Martin: Not till I have the bank confirmation
Adam Graham: sorry?
Adam Graham: Can you not rign you bank to check it?
Luis Martin: I will.
Adam Graham: ok so I transfer now
Adam Graham: it will probably take 10 minutes?
Adam Graham: I am not familiar with this
Luis Martin: Ok ... tell me when you are don.
Adam Graham: Its says transfer complete on my screen now!!!
Yeee haw and new car on its way!!
Adam Graham: Thank you so much !!
Adam Graham: I am VERY happy
Adam Graham: when you have rang bank can you ring ?
Adam Graham: Just speak to my nephew please.
Adam Graham: Ask for him as his father or brother may answer the phone.
Adam Graham: Thank you.
Adam Graham: Have a great day
Luis Martin: Ok. Thank you
Luis Martin: Have a nice day to
Adam Graham: Can you ring him to confirm the details?
Adam Graham: We need to know ASAP today
Adam Graham: as I want to buy another car if this is not happening
Luis Martin: I will call the bank to see if payment it's ok
Adam Graham: thanks
Luis Martin: Have a nice day
Adam Graham: I sure will!!!!!!
Adam Graham: One of the best to get such a bargain!!! I am delighted
Adam Graham: bye0
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What better with this is now I had Scotland Yard onto me!!
I spoke to Piston Heads there and they got rid of the ad. They asked me for the transcript above and I sent it on.
I then had Scotland Yard onto me!!! Told me that 121k pounds had gone into that account but no one had reported it, they thanked me for spotting it and that they had Spanish police onto the account! 0 -
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Success! Tony B Loney's cheque came through, but what's this? It's made out for more than I asked for? Oh noes, whatever shall I do???
It also came from Italy, which is strange given that it's drawn on a UK bank account. How do people fall for this bullsh*t?
I think I'll write back to Mr Giblets (or should I start calling him Mr Gobshíte?) and thank him for his most generous contribution.0 -
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You can't really report them to anyone, but you can report it to the website where you originally saw the ad (if it was on a site like Carzone or CBG).
All you can do is pull their strings, and keep them busy to waste their time. I'm selling my car at the moment, and I got and email from a guy living on Fleet Street in London, sounds convincing, he must be trustworthy. I'm waiting a reply again now, he's not responded to me since I called him a tyre kicker.
Ye Olde Cock Tavern
22 Fleet Street,
London,
EC4Y 1AA
0872 148 1188
Give him a ring to see if you can go for a pint
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Success! Tony B Loney's cheque came through, but what's this? It's made out for more than I asked for? Oh noes, whatever shall I do???
It also came from Italy, which is strange given that it's drawn on a UK bank account. How do people fall for this bullsh*t?
I think I'll write back to Mr Giblets (or should I start calling him Mr Gobshíte?) and thank him for his most generous contribution.
Tell him you have also had contact from your new friend in Nigeria who is a prince and he says that if you send him that 4 grand he will return it to you along with 400% profit once his family can retake control of the country and that you will then split that money with him.
Either that or tell him because its not counter signed your banks requires a 50 euro clearing fee and as soon as he sends that you will send him back his money !!!0 -
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U are browsing an Internet Car Sales website and u cannot believe your luck a modern car say a 06 or 07 model at a knockdown price.
You fail to notice that all of the Number Plate showing is the year part & the rest is marked over (In case the real owner spots it)
You follow the instuctions on the site and email them and give them your e-mail
They E-Mail u back as follows
FROM MELISSA SMALLS (melissa.smalls@btinternet.com)
Hi there, the car is still available for the price of 4.000 EUR and that I am awfully sorry for the late reply.The car is in excellent overall condition, never involved in an accident.The car is still Irish registered.I worked in Ireland for 2 years and the company i worked for was dissolved and i had to move back to UK. I am selling it for this price because the UK registration taxes are to expensive for me.
Please get back to me.
You then look for car details and as well say you will call to see it and reply is as follows
FROM MELISSA SMALLS (melissa.smalls@btinternet.com)
The car is in eBay's custody in London, UK and they have the right to handle the transaction in my name.
If we come to an agreement the car will be delivered directly to your home address and the shipping&insurance cost will be 300EUR, and i think it would be fair to split the costs in half, so we will have to pay 150EUR each. The car will be shipped by truck and that will take up to 3 days. The transaction will be fully under eBay's surveillance, giving us both security and insurance that nothing will go wrong. They are acting like an inter agent in this transaction. From the moment the car arrives at your address, you have 5 days to see and test it which way you like. Within this period you have to decide if you purchase it or not.
To register this transaction at eBay, I will need your full name, address and a contact number
(In the meantime the car is pulled from Car Sales Internet site so that if the garage or the new or old owner spot it, they wont cop that the car is part of a scam)
You reply looking for Car registration details
FROM MELISSA SMALLS (melissa.smalls@btinternet.com)
the pics are in the attachment.To register this transaction at eBay, I will need your full name, address and a contact number
If you check out details of the car online of course they pass ok. More than likely there was correct car transaction with this car between a dealer etc
The car looks OK & transaction looks genuine
You agree to the deal
REPLY FROM MELISSA SMALLS (melissa.smalls@btinternet.com)
Hello
I have contacted eBay and they shall email you soon to explain the terms and the way you will have to proceed in order to complete this transaction.
Please get back to me after eBay contacts you.
All the best
PS :
I have briefly described the transaction steps below:
1. Buyer, seller reach an agreement (price and delivery conditions)
2. Buyer sends money to eBay.
3. eBay confirms to seller that the amount has been received.
4. Seller performs the required services (shipping, insurance) via escrow.
5. Buyer receives the goods.
6. If the goods comply with buyer's conditions, eBay releases the money to seller.
As you can see, you will receive the car BEFORE any money is released to me. You will get the chance to inspect it, test drive it and everything you like while your money is still safely held in eBay account. ONLY after you confirm to eBay that you agree with the vehicle, they will release the money to me.
If, for some reason, you disagree with the car (I assure you that is NOT going to happen since my car is in IMMACULATE condition inside and out) it will be shipped back to me on MY EXPENSE and eBay will send you your money back.
E-Mail From: eBay (ebay@vpp-financial-department.net)
[font=verdana, sans-serif]eBay sent this message to John P O'Sullivan.
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.
Congratulations, the item is yours. Please pay now![IMG]http://pics...ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/globalAssets/rtCurve.gif[/IMG]
Congratulations! You committed to buy the following item: 2006 or 07 Make & Model Motor Vehicle. Check out and pay with Money to get your item as soon as possible.
Car
: EURO 4,150
Inspection: Inspected
Be it known, that for good and valuable consideration, and in payment of the sum of EURO 4,150 (the "Purchase Price+ Taxes"), the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged, Melissa Smalls (the "Seller"), hereby sells and transfers to NAME, (the "Buyer"), of ADDRESS, Ireland and its heirs, executors, administrators, successors, and assigns forever, the following-described motor vehicle (the "Vehicle"):
MakeModelYearCar
Model2006 or 07
EngineOdometer ReadingBody TypeSize
No of milesSaloon/etc
How to make the payment
Locate the nearest Money Gram office [ click here ].
Make the payment with cash using the below eBay Motors agent details..
Please send us a copy of the MoneyGram receipt by fax at :
(+44) 203 006 8669
eBay Motors Agent Details:First Name :Jason
Last Name:KirkpatrikAddress:16 Dukes Gate Acton Lane
City:LondonZip:W4 5DXCountry:United KingdomAmount to be sent: EUR 4,150Important Notice
The eBay Motors Vehicle Purchase Protection (VPP) warrants to the Buyer it has good and marketable title to the Motor Vehicle, full authority to grant, sell, and transfer the Motor Vehicle, and that the Motor Vehicle is sold free and clear of all liens, claims, or other encumbrances..
The eBay Motors Vehicle Purchase Protection (VPP) further warrants to the Buyer that it will fully denfend, protect, indemnify, and hold harmless the Buyer and its lawful heirs, executors, administrators, successors, and assigns from any adverse claims thereto.
When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours.. After payment is secured, eBay is authorized to ship the vehicle. Your funds will not be released to the Seller until you have received and approved the merchandise you are purchasing.The Buyer receives the vehicle and has 5 business days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses the vehicle, the Buyer must ship the vehicle back to eBay within 3 business days.After the inspection period is over, the Buyer must contact eBay Motors Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer refuses the vehicle, the refund will be sent to the Buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. If the vehicle is accepted, eBay Motors Financial Department submits the payment directly to the Seller within 3 business days.All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers
HelpIf you need further assistance you can contact us by phone ( +44 203 286 3904 )
Thank you,
eBay Motors Financial Department
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