What kind of guitar is this?

elduder

Hi,

Two questions here the first is what kind of les paul is this ...A standard...A custom etc.....

Secondly what does the toggle switch do that I have circled in the picture?

Thanks

Hope this is in the right forum.

Dord

It looks like a 70's standard to me.
The switch would be an addition, probably for a coiltap or phase.

IluvGeeetar

I seen this before and the person said that it was a kill switch. Ur probably thinking what would you want a kill switch for on a guitar, but it sounds pretty when you play a riff and then start switching it from on to off and back on quickly!

Dord

IluvGeeetar wrote: »

I seen this before and the person said that it was a kill switch. Ur probably thinking what would you want a kill switch for on a guitar, but it sounds pretty when you play a riff and then start switching it from on to off and back on quickly!

Fair 'nuff but a killswitch on Les Paul (w/ 2 Pickups, 2V, 2T and a pickup selector) is a bit of a waste. If you set one of the pickup volumes to 0 and the other up full.... then when you switch between the pickups using the pickup selector it goes from on to off - just like a kill switch! But no rewiring necessary.

MetalDawg

the switch could be a bypass switch that bypasses the pots on the guitar, going directly to the amp. Neil Young has one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_black

CianRyan

Dord wrote: »

Fair 'nuff but a killswitch on Les Paul (w/ 2 Pickups, 2V, 2T and a pickup selector) is a bit of a waste. If you set one of the pickup volumes to 0 and the other up full.... then when you switch between the pickups using the pickup selector it goes from on to off - just like a kill switch! But no rewiring necessary.

That's really bad for the guitar man.
My mate found out the hard way, €1.5k guitar left on the neck pick up for 4 weeks.
Needles to say, he went mad.:pac:

Paolo_M

CianRyan wrote: »

That's really bad for the guitar man.
My mate found out the hard way, €1.5k guitar left on the neck pick up for 4 weeks.
Needles to say, he went mad.:pac:

I don't get it, why did his guitar fail?
Switchcraft switches used in Lep Pauls would/should be more sturdy than any mini toggle you might use for a kill switch.
I saw a LP copy where the switch went, from normal use, but when I went looking it was some crappy switch from out foreign somewhere (don't wanna get in touble here!!). A proper switch craft got her up and running again with no problems.

I'm expecting my check from switch craft any day now!!

OP, looks like a standard to me. The switch could be for a few different things though as Dord mentioned.

Dord

CianRyan wrote: »

That's really bad for the guitar man.
My mate found out the hard way, €1.5k guitar left on the neck pick up for 4 weeks.
Needles to say, he went mad.:pac:

Rock & Roll M'Fer! :pac:

CianRyan

Paolo_M wrote: »

I don't get it, why did his guitar fail?
Switchcraft switches used in Lep Pauls would/should be more sturdy than any mini toggle you might use for a kill switch.
I saw a LP copy where the switch went, from normal use, but when I went looking it was some crappy switch from out foreign somewhere (don't wanna get in touble here!!). A proper switch craft got her up and running again with no problems.

I'm expecting my check from switch craft any day now!!

OP, looks like a standard to me. The switch could be for a few different things though as Dord mentioned.

The switch just snapped right off.
He was giving it loads like, i guess the little switch just couldn't take it anymore.

I laughed, he got pissed, I laughed some more. :pac:

funkydunkey

Would have to agree with Dord, cant see the point of a killswitch on a LP.
Could be a coil tap. It looks its a 3-piece ply, would I be right in saying thats a 70's deluxe? Didn't standards at the time have only 2 ply. I know the Delux from that time would be almost twice a thick. Gibson had bought up lots of thin ply to make SG's which flopped initially, they were forced to use them back to back to make LP's. Which meant the LP of that time were tripple-ply and very thick.

Paolo_M

CianRyan wrote: »

The switch just snapped right off.
He was giving it loads like, i guess the little switch just couldn't take it anymore.

I laughed, he got pissed, I laughed some more. :pac:

Wow, the guy musta been hopping off that switch!!
I'd sat 'twas a funny sight alright. :pac:

Dord

funkydunkey wrote: »

Would have to agree with Dord, cant see the point of a killswitch on a LP.
Could be a coil tap. It looks its a 3-piece ply, would I be right in saying thats a 70's deluxe? Didn't standards at the time have only 2 ply. I know the Delux from that time would be almost twice a thick. Gibson had bought up lots of thin ply to make SG's which flopped initially, they were forced to use them back to back to make LP's. Which meant the LP of that time were tripple-ply and very thick.

They used 3 piece (and more!) maple caps on the standards, deluxes, and customs of the 70's and early 80's. Also they had what are referred to as "pancake bodies", basically they used two slabs of mahogany with a thin laminite in between for the back of the guitar. You can see the join line around the sides. Along with this they switched over to three piece maple necks with a volute behind the nut for a few years.

IMO, they should have kept the volute... it strengthens the neck where it really needs it! less prone to headstock snaps.

bellg124

I wonder if the extra toggle is for a piezo pickup...looks like a 70s standard alright kind of like Scot Gorham's guitar

Ravelleman

Gorham's guitar was a Deluxe, no?

Though 70s 'Standards' do generally tend to be Deluxe conversions anyway.