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Golden retriever pup wanted!!!!

  • 30-06-2009 7:08pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3


    I`m looking to get a male golden retriever pup! any help would be really appreciated. have had no luck in locating.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Contact the breed club below, they should be able to put you in contact with some breeders who have or are planning litters.

    Golden Retriever Society of Ireland
    Ms. Breda Ingle

    Martinstown, Delvin, Co. Westmeath.

    ( 044-9668819 )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Ciara4321


    OK. Thanks a mil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Mcloke


    Speaking from personal experience, don't buy a Golden Retriever unless the contact is via the Golden Retriever Society of Ireland or the All Ireland Golden Retriever Society....both contacts can be found on the IKC website. You should be looking to spend between €550 and €650...anything less and the parents more than likely do not have all the (very) necessary health checks. Look at the history of the parents if possible...k9data.com is great for this :)

    Also from personal experience we found the Golden Retriever Society of Ireland and its members very helpful in finding our latest puppy....if you can find a show in your area it is also worth popping down to meet some breeders and see the type of golden you might be after (pale/golden).

    If you have any specific questions feel free to ask and I will try to help as best I can :)

    Marie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Ciara4321


    Hi Marie.

    Thanks a mil for that info. We`ve had a golden retriever in the past so we know what were looking for kinda :) I`ve contacted the all ireland golden assoc but they`d nothing at present. Currently waiting to hear back from the secretary of the golden retriever society. How does it work when you go through them?

    Thanks a mil again.

    Ciara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Mcloke


    Hi Ciara,
    They simply hold lists of puppies available from their members...all these pups parents (both) will have their health checks (or should anyway), they can let you know who has litters and then you contact the breeder directly or that is how it worked with us anyway. From personal experience I found the Golden Retriever Society of Ireland much easier to deal with....the other continued to tell us to ring back in 2 weeks/a month to then tell us demand is high and there was no litters left.
    If you can get to a show and meet some of the breeders in person that also helps I think and also don't be afraid of looking to UK breeders :)
    Hope it helps :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭messygirl


    We got the COOLEST golden retriever from a lady in mayo about 3 years ago, he is fabulous and gorgeous and amazing temperment (wilful and bold but in the most lovable way!) She doesnt have any at the moment but i can pm you if you want? He is fabulous and can't imagine the house without him, but saying that there was someone in the house with him every day except for during work 9-2 so he had excellent socialisation. And he has the garden wrecked, ate a mobile phone, likes to eat everything, ate a cable or two and moults but hey i love him! :)

    also when we brought him home at 9and a half weeks he didnt bark that night and all we had was a blanket in a different room so he was no bother settling. Brave as anything and didnt seem to miss his family! When we were picking him out there was a plastic bag on the floor and all the puppies were running to it and he just charged and pounced like simba in the lion king, we just looked at each other and it was like "thats your dog right there!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    Hi Ciara.

    We rescued a Golden Retriever a four years ago; she was six at the time and is the most fantastic dog. We found her in the classifieds at the back of the Irish Times (not every day), where a couple of small Adoption Groups advertise.

    They are easier to get than you might think. Big dogs are often 'given up' and are hard to 'rehome'. I realise the risks with health/temprament but a vet and a good nose for dogs can get you over both.

    I know you want a puppy, but it pains me that we export so many rescue dogs to the UK every year.

    Dave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Donedeal.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    Like a Dog Department store!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭MacBaldy


    hi ciara,

    we are also looking at getting golden retriever and looking for pure breed, sadly few months our golen retriever died he was 14, so we miss the company, i would not recommend donedeal, you should go what the other poster says an go to a pure breed breeer, like we are doing we rang kennel club an inquired an see what was available, we got a name from kennel club, that a woman in cork city area is due a litter, and around september to take home, we are expecting a phone call to see the pubs, an see what happens, best of luck what ever happens in finding one, :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭messygirl


    Everyone says donedeal is bad but if you ask the right questions and make sure you look for evidence to back up health claims then you can get a quality pup! We got our golden from Irish dogs (which is linked to donedeal) and his dad was irish champion, great dog with a big personality, lovely floppy ears and bold brown eyes that stare at you when you have food! he loves using his simba paws to swat you when he is cuddling up for attention, and when brushing him his on his back legs waving in the air like a big baby! He is a quality dog and too intelligent you think he is a little dumb, but he just doesnt see the point in doing something for nothing! If you research your breeder, research the breed and know the questions to ask then you can get a lovely dog. We didnt contact the ikc or golden retriever society, we just found him on donedeal first ad we looked at and first litter we looked at. Any dog can be registered with the ikc if its purebred so its no guarantee either. look at pedigree dogs exposed, the champion cavalier who was registered had sm, the ikc knew but were happy to register his litters because he looked show quality. There is no harm in looking at a few litters that aren't on the golden retriever list,

    http://www.champdogs.co.uk/guided/all_golden-retriever_breeders_Ireland.html;sort=2 email every one of them regarding puppies available and see what happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    messygirl wrote: »
    Everyone says donedeal is bad but if you ask the right questions and make sure you look for evidence to back up health claims then you can get a quality pup! We got our golden from Irish dogs (which is linked to donedeal) and his dad was irish champion, great dog with a big personality, lovely floppy ears and bold brown eyes that stare at you when you have food! he loves using his simba paws to swat you when he is cuddling up for attention, and when brushing him his on his back legs waving in the air like a big baby! He is a quality dog and too intelligent you think he is a little dumb, but he just doesnt see the point in doing something for nothing! If you research your breeder, research the breed and know the questions to ask then you can get a lovely dog. We didnt contact the ikc or golden retriever society, we just found him on donedeal first ad we looked at and first litter we looked at. Any dog can be registered with the ikc if its purebred so its no guarantee either. look at pedigree dogs exposed, the champion cavalier who was registered had sm, the ikc knew but were happy to register his litters because he looked show quality. There is no harm in looking at a few litters that aren't on the golden retriever list,

    http://www.champdogs.co.uk/guided/all_golden-retriever_breeders_Ireland.html;sort=2 email every one of them regarding puppies available and see what happens

    Sorry Messygirl but IRISH DOGS.IE is not linked to Donedeal in any way, its merely has a link to the site, that is all, it is not connected in any way.

    Only dogs with the parents registered can be reg with IKC, so if you have a pedigree dog with no details of parents then it CANNOT be registered with the IKC.

    Also the pedigree dogs exposed was an English programme so it was the Kennel Club in England and not the IKC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭messygirl


    hey andrea, sorry must have typed wrong in work so trying to limit amount written but to explain, we got our dog from the ads on irish dog which are the ads from donedeal, and it shows the adds in their pages and has the ads shown in different format that doesnt bring you to donedeal so i just tell people i got him off irishdogs because that is the site we saw the ad on, it was a donedeal ad but it is on the irishdogs page,

    again mistyped meant i was under the impression purebred dogs with papers can be bred without health scores and the pups can be registered so its not a major big deal, its a better guarantee but its no 100% fool proof. my sister bought a purebred old english sheepdog last year, now she has got a letter saying that the sire isnt who the owner had said was the sire of the pups. He is still purebred but it was advertised as ikc and she had the papers and everything and sent them off last year to register herself as the owner. Not sure what the implications are but just goes to show i wouldnt be relying on an ikc cert as a guaranteee.

    I was using the example of the cavalier to show that as long as a dog has papers it doesnt seem to matter about its health, and that the kennel club will register any purebred pup whos parents are purebred with papers, if that isnt the same with the ikc then i stand corrected.

    was just trying to make the point that donedeal isnt the worst place to look for a dog and it CAN be a good place to get a pup, if you are lucky and/or ask the right questions. Everyone seems to think donedeal is a place where you get farmed puppies but that isn't always the case and i love our dog and cant imagine the house without him and i got him on donedeal and dont think people should be totally discouraged. its not that bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    JUst a thought; Irish Guide Dogs for the Blind train Goldens. Might be a good place to look and see if they re home dogs who are not 100% for Guiding or 'retired'. Also, they do a Foster scheme where you take a puppy for a year before giving it back for Guide Dog training. Not sure how I would feel about giving @my' dog back though, or having to start over again with another chewing machine. Thinking about it for a second dog; do good and have a puppy for a year as a reward.

    Two quick anecdotes about Goldens.

    1. A Guide Dog Trainer told me he preferrred training Goldens to Lab's. They are harder to train as they are more 'human' intelligent and 'mess with your head'.

    2. A friend who was looking to get his first Gundog called the Secretary of the Golden Retriever Society of Ireland who asked what he wanted the dog for. "As a Gundog". Well, said the Secretary, I advise getting a Labrador! Why would you say that asked my friend. They are great Gundogs, he said, but need a week or two at the beginning of each season to get them back to working form, whereas a Lab will never forget his training and jump straight in at the start of every season. The Goldens are more human and like humans their attention wanders to other more interesting matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Sorry messy, i hope you didnt think i was having a go or anything, just wnated to correct and clarify some of the things you mentioned.

    Yes donedeal can be ok, its not a place i would look for a pup for myself, but im involved in dog showing and have a lot of good contacts with many different breeds and reliable and reputable breeders.

    Its up to the buyer to do all the relevent research and checks before buying pups, but all too often people jump in head first without doing any research and buy the first cute puppy they see and end up with sick, unhealthy and dogs with no papers, as promised by dodgy breeders.

    When you are on irishdogs.ie in that section you will actually see a disclaimer that Irishdogs doesnt endorse or approve any breeder from donedeal.

    You are right in saying that pedigree dogs can of course be bred without health testing and will still be reg with IKC. Its just more responsible to have your dog health tested for all necessary problems before breeding.

    With regards papers, dodgy breeders can im sure get their hands on fake papers etc, so again its up to the buyer to get breeders recommended from good sources first.

    That cav you were talking about was based in the UK and it was the KC and not the IKC, and that programme was based in the UK too, but as you say, thats not to say its happening over here in ireland too, but just wanted to make sure people knew it was the KC and not the IKC that were involved in that programe, thats all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    Dunno about anyone else but I think the 'Papers/Pure Breed thing gets too much attention. If to ensure health and it being a proper, say, Golden then fine. But lets not fall into the Beemer better than a Volkswagen trap.

    Dog = fun/friendship etc. If I wasn't so mad about Goldens (and a couple of other breeds) I would always go for any dog for "the way she might look at you!" Thinking of a 'Heinz 57' varieties as a second dog; subject to agreement by 'the boss' that we (I) can have a second!

    p.s. How bad is it to spend time thinking/talking about dogs - never yet met a true (!) dog owner I didn't like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭messygirl


    dead right andrea to call me up on a few discrepencies, sometimes i tyoe too fast and in my head it makes perfect sense but on paper :D

    haha totally get that goldens are like humans, himself practically talks and is always in a good mood! have my oh's parents to thank regarding a lot of his socialisation, spent every morning with his head on their laps feeding them toast and marmalade, and afterwards porridge with a bit of tea mixed in, and his mum goes out to him every night for about 5 minutes to say goodnight and pet him and tell him what a good boy he is (she lies!!! ;) one night he started barking at 12 because she forgot to say goodnight! hahaha) he is always busy in the garden and as soon as we sit down to have breakfast he has his nose pressed against the kitchen door and as soon as he hears the toaster pop up he starts whining trying to get in. as if we would forget about him!!!! As if he would let us!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    Mine, Flora, is a depression head. Left her at home for 5 hours one day(she used to being with me all day in car) and when I got home her whole body was shaking/trembling and her teeth chattering


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭messygirl


    we used to have a crate/kennel outside and he HATED it, bribing with jaffas were the only way, now when himself is out of the house he is alone for about 5 and a half hours and he just sleeps, and as soon as he gets let out starts destroying the garden (i think as revenge)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 djgos


    God, no; Flora is a Lady who sleeps on a leather couch covered with a Dog throw. Put a Dog Flap in back door recently as she had three 'accidents' on a loveley cream coloured Persian rug we got as a present from a friend. Rug ruined - payback?? Naaaaaah! (Also, dog flap much appreciated by our busy 2 year old daughter

    Gotta give up working on my own - hard to do any actual work!


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