New Cervelo kit

Chips Lovell

White for the Tour:

AstraMonti

Simple and not too fancy, i like it!

Lumen

Fresian Cow FAIL. Doesn't match the bike.

I thought the black kit and shiny bikes looked awesome in the Giro.

Caroline_ie

Quite Euro indeed. I guess the black kit with heat they will have to endure might not have been a good idea.

ednwireland

Caroline_ie wrote: »

Quite Euro indeed. I guess the black kit with heat they will have to endure might not have been a good idea.

wont someone think of the bikes (their black too) they might get hot surely they should get little custom white tube coolers

i really need to get out more (ooh just thought of a pitch for dragons den )

Lumen

Caroline_ie wrote: »

Quite Euro indeed. I guess the black kit with heat they will have to endure might not have been a good idea.

Why do Bedouins wear black robes in hot deserts?

scottreynolds

Lumen wrote: »

Why do Bedouins wear black robes in hot deserts?

Interesting article although there were two other reasons to wear black:

1. Black is slimming
2. The cervelo test team (CTT) wore black

When news of the CTT kit change for the TDF reaches the Sahara i'm sure you'll see a gradual migration to the new white robes... although die hard fans will see this as just another attempt to suck money out of the fans

TinyExplosions

Agree with Lumen, need to change the bikes to white now

lukester

Nice, but I preferred the black. Heretical I know, but the black looked more euro to me.

blorg

Lumen wrote: »

Why do Bedouins wear black robes in hot deserts?

Ahem

Bedouin robes, the scientists noted, are worn loose. Inside, the cooling happens by convection - either through a bellows action, as the robes flow in the wind, or by a chimney sort of effect, as air rises between robe and skin.

Thus it was conclusively demonstrated that, at least for Bedouin robes, black is as cool as any other colour.

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

Ahem

Ah, but...

They found inspiration and guidance in a 1969 report about cattle. John Hutchinson and Graham Brown, of the Ian Clunies Ross Animal Research Laboratory, who were working with Friesien dairy cows, discovered that light and heat penetrate deeper into white cattle hair than into black. The saving grace for the cattle is that even a tiny amount of wind whisks away that extra heat.

My emphasis.

edit: Black radiates heat better, obviously.

Hungrycol

Getting back to the new kit. Not a good colour choice in the rain!

Oh, Gateway computers of yesteryear springs to mind with the whole black and white cow thing!

blorg

I am not convinced that black cycling kit is cooler than white, sorry. My own experience would suggest otherwise- although at least part of that is probably just that the one white jersey I have is a particularly cool material. The original La Vie Claire kit was to be all black (much like Rapha Condor) but it was rejected on the basis that you couldn't have someone do the Tour in it. Black bidons certainly warm the water inside them faster and what is the human body after all but a big container full of water?

@Hungrycol- it's the é from Cervélo, not a dairy cow pattern. Milram used to have that mind.

blorg

From VeloNews, it seems they made this change specifically due to heat concerns:

VeloNews wrote:

Cervélo seeks kit change
Published: Jun. 30, 2009

The Cervélo TestTeam is seeking UCI permission to reverse the colors on its nearly all-black kit in time to use a largely white version at this year’s Tour de France.

The team has proposed changing its colors so that the black and white portions of the jersey are reversed.

"We made the design change because racing during the hot summer temperatures that are normal in Europe is hard on the riders," said Thomas Campana, Managing Director, Cervélo TestTeam, "and the lighter color will provide some relief from the heat. All modifications to team kit design must be approved by the UCI and we appreciate their prompt attention in this matter."

The change is proposed for the upcoming Tour de France as well as the Giro d'Italia Femminile, the women's verison of the Giro.

"Racing in hot weather is physically demanding, that's a given, and despite the fact that Castelli makes some of the lightest and coolest fabrics in existence, wearing a lighter colour will make a big difference, both psychologically and physically, to a rider's well being," explained Steve Smith, Castelli Products. "UCI agreed that the rider's health is paramount, and so we instituted the change."

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

I am not convinced that black cycling kit is cooler than white, sorry. My own experience would suggest otherwise- although at least part of that is probably just that the one white jersey I have is a particularly cool material. The original La Vie Claire kit was to be all black (much like Rapha Condor) but it was rejected on the basis that you couldn't have someone do the Tour in it. Black bidons certainly warm the water inside them faster and what is the human body after all but a big container full of water?

OK, I wasn't being entirely serious.

However, FWIW the human body differs from a water bottle in that the water bottle is "cold blooded", therefore will get warmer until it reaches ambient air temperature, whereas the body is almost always warmer than ambient so the temperature differential will be reversed; hence the importance of radiatiative properties of black materials.

I read on boards a while back that black jerseys were not actually much hotter than white, but I can't be bothered to search.

abcdggs

lies, i'm currently in arizona. it's a cool day if it doesnt get over 40 degrees.

DirkVoodoo

Preferred the old kit.