Ricochets

wicklow_hunter

Anyone have any experience with Ricochet Bullets

Which Calibres are more likely to richot rimfire or Centrefire ?


I came accross this video on the web:


http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/9/bullet-ricochet-almost-kills-shooter.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.break.com/insane-military-explosions/insane-military-explosions3.html&usg=__p2sdL90xKw3pblAp_GsHeG6Fl_A=&h=140&w=210&sz=7&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=QrxaF3u5UXYzZM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbullet%2Bricochet%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1W1GGLL_en%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

On another note

How comfortable are people shooting in open fields -what is the probibility of a bullet rising off the ground at 100 yrds fired at say a rabbit?

Grizzly 45

Looks like the backstop in the video is a 90degree wall of steel or somthing.Not the best idea first off.Big calibre rifle as well.

ANY calibre will richochet even shotgun pellets,given the right angle,surface and circumstances.However higher speed calibres seem to break up rather than richochet,found 22 subsonics to be richochet prone somtimes.

Depends on what your bunny is sitting on.Hard rocky surfaces very good chances,field of grass a lot less.Alot of factors need to be added to say wether a shot would richochet in your case.

wicklow_hunter

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Looks like the backstop in the video is a 90degree wall of steel or somthing.Not the best idea first off.Big calibre rifle as well.

ANY calibre will richochet even shotgun pellets,given the right angle,surface and circumstances.However higher speed calibres seem to break up rather than richochet,found 22 subsonics to be richochet prone somtimes.

Depends on what your bunny is sitting on.Hard rocky surfaces very good chances,field of grass a lot less.Alot of factors need to be added to say wether a shot would richochet in your case.

How safe is it to shoot into a perfectly flat field - say for example roughly a flat field the size of a football pitch with no back stop

I would personally refrain from taking the shot off a bipod on the ground
for fear it would lift once it hits the ground

and if in a standing position be very conscious of the surroundings before i pull the trigger

Does the bullet sound diferent than normal if you get a richot?

Jonty

wicklow_hunter wrote: »

How safe is it to shoot into a perfectly flat field - say for example roughly a flat field the size of a football pitch with no back stop

I would personally refrain from taking the shot off a bipod on the ground
for fear it would lift once it hits the ground
and if in a standing position be very conscious of the surroundings before i pull the trigger

Does the bullet sound diferent than normal if you get a richot?

I've had it happen. Scary to hear it happening.

maglite

It does sound different, think a wester shooting scene. Hollow points in my ex are more likly to bounce.

I know it happened in a range in the uk they let out Hp and the things were bounceing all over the place.

endasmail

shot a rabbit at 120 yards sunday,bullet went through him and hit a mains water pipe that ran down through the ditch ,a ballistic tip round out off a .223 ,there was 3 holes in the water pipe ,an entry and exit and an unexplained third hole bout 2 inches away from the entry/exit hole ,im guessing the bullet broke up

ivanthehunter

Yep 22lr subs are very bad on hard surfaces. The only thing is that the extreme trajectory of this round has a good down ward angle at distance of around 80m, so as such i would have no issue taking a shot of a bi pod in the prone position.

meathstevie

Ricochets are possible with any calibre and depend on a couple of factors : speed, angle, surface, bullet characteristics. Having said that the chances are far greater that it's going to happen with a solid lead, unjacketed, .22lr subsonic hollow point of a hard surface rather than with a .308 softpoint on the same surface at the same angle.

Bigger calibers have their own particular capabilities to consider as endasmail pointed out earlier. The main one being that there's a lot more energy going down the line than with a more modest rimfire.

Having said that there's no such thing as dangerous calibers, there's only dangerous people.

J.R.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqAffzjUrU

maglite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJempqhfuCM&NR=1


:EEK:

Mellor

wicklow_hunter wrote: »

How safe is it to shoot into a perfectly flat field - say for example roughly a flat field the size of a football pitch with no back stop

:eek::eek::eek:

maglite wrote: »

Hollow points in my ex are more likly to bounce.

I like the way you refer to your old gun as your Ex.:D:D:D

sfakiaman

The backstops in the last two clips both appear to be the same. I think both videos are pisstakes.

maglite

Mellor wrote: »

I like the way you refer to your old gun as your Ex.:D:D:D

Re reading what i wrote it seems to have an interesting interpretation.

I meant exp as in experience.

Also I do not have an ExGf in a ditch riddled with HP's

pajero2005

J.R. wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqAffzjUrU

What kind of a tool stands between a shooter and his target:eek:??? Oh Mr. Darwin....... There is someone here you need to meet.

rowa

i also seen .22 bullets bounce off water too , a guy standing on a bridge right in the middle of the river shooting at a rat swimming across , the shot fell short but you could still hear the bullet bounce into the trees behind , can't be too careful .

4gun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWv3Um5aRU


this is a scary one

J.R.

sure is........so is this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siQcQDzLgLI

Sparks

4gun wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWv3Um5aRU
this is a scary one

That one has shown up on the DoJ's youtube hall of fame, along with the one of an arabic shooter being thrown about the place by the recoil of a .475
You might well thank the chaps in that video next time you're spending thirty grand to beef up the backstop berm so that someone can't replicate what they did over here.
(And seriously, firing a .50 at a vertical metal plate from under 100 yards? Yeah, that's real fancy shooting, that is...)