RTE 1 Flagship Channel-Is Teleshopping the best they can do?

Widescreen

I have become frustrated lately with RTE. I switch on my telly in the morning AT 7.30 approx and all RTE 1 can offer me is Teleshopping!! I have to switch to TV3 or BBC for some quality. No matter how much the TV licence goes up to the service if anything deteriorates. Haven't they allegedly cut their costs dramatically in the last few months? Will any of these cuts be passed on to the viewer? No chance. I know that the TV licence is "disguised" as a fee so you can have broadcasting equipment in your house but we all know where the money goes! What are they spending it on for god's sake! It certainly ain't quality programming. TG4 is the best domestic channel and they don't even broadcast in English! Sorry to be bashing them,but in all fairness they need to pull their finger(s) out big time.:mad:

bk

Er, haven't you heard that ad revenue is way down and they are currently cutting costs (wages, etc.) to plug the €65 million or so deficit they are currently carrying.

As for TV3 carrying quality content, LOL. TV3 show vastly more shopping channel type ads and game show tv every day then RTE, just perhaps not at the times you watch.

According to the RTE 1 schedule, RTE will show a total of 1:30 of TV shopping channel today between 6:45 am and 8:15 am, the other 22 and a half hours is normal TV content.

RTE 2 shows non, showing Euro News at night.

TV3 3 hours 45 minutes of Play TV from 12 every night, a time when far more people are likely to be watching TV.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it is great that RTE shows any of this sort of content, but they certainly aren't the worst and RTE needs to do whatever they can to survive.

Widescreen

Unfortunately,your reply just confirms what poor choice we have from our domestic stations. I don't know how anyone who just has access to Terrestrial TV survives!!

Ah well! And I have to pay another €160 (I think)in October even to only watch this xxxx!

DB10

TV3 and RTE have way gone downhill.TV3 is basically a foreign reality tv/soaps channel. Full of ****.

DB10

I was thinking to myself the other day. How hard would it be to make an Irish tv channel if you had the money. Yet the likes of TV3 couldn't make 2 decent programmes in a week or it would explode.

Mossy Monk

Widescreen wrote: »

I don't know how anyone who just has access to Terrestrial TV survives!!

It's quite easy. I am sure they don't spend 24 hours of their day watching tv.

watty

Your eyes would dribble out your ears if you did.

However I challenge anyone to watch 1/2 a day of RAI 1 etc...

Mossy Monk

The yanks should use RAI as a torture method.

Sam Russell

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The yanks should use RAI as a torture method.

They do, at full volume.

Elmo

Ireland AM is Teleshopping in disguise. Many of their guest are there to promote something and certain sections are sponsored by different commerical organisations. For the last 10 years TV3 have run a show that goes againist the TV without frontiers directive i.e. Product Placement is againist the law.

RTÉ should not waste money on a Morning show. IMO if RTÉ or TV3 need to cut cost they should stop producing Morning and Daytime TV and start making quality prime time programming.

TV3 run for 3 hours from 12am to 3am Play TV. As a national broadcaster this is just as much of a disgrace.

I personelly would like to see Teleshopping, TeleGameshows and Teleporn banned. (I have a trademark on Telegameshows and Teleporn )

Sam Russell

Elmo wrote: »

Ireland AM is Teleshopping in disguise. Many of their guest are there to promote something and certain sections are sponsored by different commerical organisations. For the last 10 years TV3 have run a show that goes againist the TV without frontiers directive i.e. Product Placement is againist the law.

RTÉ should not waste money on a Morning show. IMO if RTÉ or TV3 need to cut cost they should stop producing Morning and Daytime TV and start making quality prime time programming.

TV3 run for 3 hours from 12am to 3am Play TV. As a national broadcaster this is just as much of a disgrace.

I personelly would like to see Teleshopping, TeleGameshows and Teleporn banned. (I have a trademark on Telegameshows and Teleporn )

If RTE want to cut costs they should drop their infatuation with 'STARS' and celebrity and have content driven programs. The presenter, or autocue reader, should be irrelevant. None are very good at it, since they cannot, or choose not to, wear glasses. Most just stumble their way through different... sorry ...diff i cult words that they have not seen before.

Also, RTE radio 1 should be live radio for all of the day from 7am to 7pm. It is cheap, and immediate, just what modern radio should be. Recorded interviews are stilted and stale. We are coming into the trainee season while the STARS are all away on their holls. Not a lot of difference, but lots of repeats. It is all becoming tedious.

watty

All agreed except live radio on R1

R1 has too much music and phone in/ chat. Also the News/Current affairs should start at 6 or 6.30 at latest. In august they get up even later.

Look at BBC R4.

Sam Russell

watty wrote: »

All agreed except live radio on R1

R1 has too much music and phone in/ chat. Also the News/Current affairs should start at 6 or 6.30 at latest. In august they get up even later.

Look at BBC R4.

There is chat and there is chatter. Obviously we can do without the chatter. Music - live, would be fine. Playnig top ten music is not live.

Elmo

watty wrote: »

All agreed except live radio on R1

R1 has too much music and phone in/ chat. Also the News/Current affairs should start at 6 or 6.30 at latest. In august they get up even later.

Look at BBC R4.

I still don't get this obsession with comparing RTÉ with BBC. Radio 1 is a mixed genre station it isn't just about "News/Current Affairs", what if they get an exclusive interview an either the schedule or the interviewee aren't able for the live interview? Granted I think Dave Fanning is better with live interviews than recorded ones, but then I think he should be on 2fm. I have been listening to John Creedon, and he is far better for Radio 1.

I think Maxi is also good just before the news at 7am, why should we think that a 6am start to the news would be any better, NewsTalk is there for news, and the start at 6am. OTT as this thread is about TV.

If RTE want to cut costs they should drop their infatuation with 'STARS' and celebrity and have content driven programs.

I never said anything about cutting cost only about igorning the likes of, Seoige, The Afternoon Show, Ireland AM, The Morning Show, Xpose (its a ****ing daytime show) and all of the numerous other daytime drivel around.

Quality Prime Time TV across all 4 National Channel is what is required, Morning and Daytime is incidental. But you are right Star driven does not equal quality.

Sam Russell

The problem is that RTE delay any good programmes until late, and put drivel on at prime time. RTE2 is full of sh1te imported stuff, and little of any value. TV3 has nothing of any value. Decent home produced programmes are in short supply. Sport is the only good stuff, and I am not interested in that. A good business show would be cheap, and could be worth watching. A decent motoring show as well. Even the home produced shows they do have copy formats from other channels. Maybe I should join a library.

Elmo

I amn't disagreeing with you. RTÉ's good programmes are all imports if you are talking about their late night shows, while TV3 have Play TV. TV3 are now a 24 hour station it seems to me that TV3 are using Play TV to make pretend.

I would rather 5 quality hours of primetime Irish TV coming from TV3/RTÉ than any of their Daytime muck.

http://www.rte.ie/tv/thesmartmoney but it was ultimately badly scheduled and badly advertised.

DB10

TV3 is a laughing stock. How the **** can they put daytime shows like Oprah,Rikki Lake and Ellen DeGenres on the same channel??

It beggars belief. They have no decent sports coverage and always show ****e foreign reality tv.

All they need to do is take Neighbours from RTE and they will become the worst channel to grace tv in any country.

Elmo

DB10 wrote: »

All they need to do is take Neighbours from RTE and they will become the worst channel to grace tv in any country.

TBH I would love to see TV3 take Neighbours, Home and Away and Eastenders from RTÉ, then perhaps RTÉ could focus their energys elsewhere.

Fuzzy Clam

Elmo wrote: »

Ireland AM is Teleshopping in disguise. Many of their guest are there to promote something and certain sections are sponsored by different commerical organisations. For the last 10 years TV3 have run a show that goes againist the TV without frontiers directive i.e. Product Placement is againist the law.

It's not just Ireland AM. I caught a bit of "Something For The Weekend" (title ripped off from BBC2, surprise,surprise) last night and it seemed to be just one long ad for various outdoor pursuit companies.
I suppose TV3 can pass this off as home produced programming but Oh lordy!!!
Not made any easier to watch as it was the camp guy (Alan?)from Ireland AM presenting. Shrieking like a girl whilst driving a hovercraft doesn't do it for me!!! Not even in my dreams.

Elmo

Fuzzy Clam wrote: »

It's not just Ireland AM. I caught a bit of "Something For The Weekend" (title ripped off from BBC2, surprise,surprise) last night and it seemed to be just one long ad for various outdoor pursuit companies.
I suppose TV3 can pass this off as home produced programming but Oh lordy!!!
Not made any easier to watch as it was the camp guy (Alan?)from Ireland AM presenting. Shrieking like a girl whilst driving a hovercraft doesn't do it for me!!! Not even in my dreams.

What is even worse about that show it was part funded by the Licence Fee

Biffo The Bare

The only thing I watch on RTE is Prime Time. That works out at €4.00 per show. If Miriam ever left, I'd feel cheated.:pac:

Mike 1972

Arent RTE limited to seven (or is it nine ) minutes of advertising an hour. How are they able legally to run sixty minute adbreaks ?

watty wrote: »

R1 has too much music and phone in/ chat. Also the News/Current affairs should start at 6 or 6.30 at latest. In august they get up even later.

Reckon RTE R1 should split their daytime output put all the music programmes on FM and News/Current affairs on LW. Of course the public would have to be reeducated on how to find Long wave on their radios (and stop buying junk ones that dont have LW)

Also reckon Irish radio in general has far too much sports coverage. OK Im not a sports fan so Im completly biased but on a saturday afternoon in many parts of Ireland its a struggle to find a radio station doing anything else.

Couldnt they set up an Irish version of BBC Radio 5/Talksport and move it all there.

I would rather 5 quality hours of primetime Irish TV coming from TV3/RTÉ than any of their Daytime muck.

How about 5 quality hours of primetime Irish TV and then 19 hours of the test card/colour bars/white noise

Elmo

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Arent RTE limited to seven (or is it nine ) minutes of advertising an hour. How are they able legally to run sixty minute adbreaks ?

I amn't sure but TVWF directive allows for teleshopping, teleporn and telequizs on all channels. It just must be stated that the show is teleshopping, teleporn and telequizs. I also believe their is a law which states that these types of infoTV must be broken up every 30mins or so. RTÉ, TV3 and City Channel seem to be in direct contradiction to this law, but I don't really understand how QVC work it.

Reckon RTE R1 should split their daytime output put all the music programmes on FM and News/Current affairs on LW. Of course the public would have to be reeducated on how to find Long wave on their radios (and stop buying junk ones that dont have LW)

Also reckon Irish radio in general has far too much sports coverage. OK Im not a sports fan so Im completly biased but on a saturday afternoon in many parts of Ireland its a struggle to find a radio station doing anything else.

Couldnt they set up an Irish version of BBC Radio 5/Talksport and move it all there.

I think it is good to have a different station why should we always copy the BBC, RTE Radio 1 is a mix genre channel, however they need to mix it up a bit more during the day, documentary, drama and comedy are all missing from their prime time morning schedules.

Also not a big fan of sport but I do think I should know whats happening in the world of sport, kind of of part of whats going on in the world. Getting rid of sport is a kin to telling spin they don't need to provide a news service anymore. :eek:

How about 5 quality hours of primetime Irish TV and then 19 hours of the test card/colour bars/white noise

I was just thinking of an international channel for Ireland made up of TV3 morning schedule mixed with RTÉs and RTÉ ONEs prime time schedule, with some TG4 and RTÉ TWO show replacing EastEnders and other rights they don't hold.

Seems like the simplest option for an International service. Ireland 24 or Éire Fiche 's ceathair.

Hagar

watty wrote: »

Your eyes would dribble out your ears if you did.

However I challenge anyone to watch 1/2 a day of RAI 1 etc...

I could watch it, in the evenings, with the sound down, they have some quality female talent on that station.