Irish version of strongbow?

cearrbach

I was in Britain last week and I had a Strongbow, whats the Irish version called?

BeerNut

Strongbow.

JimmyFloyd

Strongb O'W

Jamey

Linden Village?

oblivious

Jamey wrote: »

Linden Village?

Same company produce it

SalthillGuy

oblivious wrote: »

Same company produce it

I like the quote at the bottom.

Ponster

cearrbach wrote: »

I was in Britain last week and I had a Strongbow, whats the Irish version called?

You can get Strongbow in Ireland also. Are you looking for a 100% Irish equivalent ?

IrishWhiskeyCha

Unfortunately in this country if your going to the pub it's pretty much Bulmers or nothing :mad:

I'm a strongbow head too and I know of very few places that sell it on tap. It has always been hard to get a decent dry cider in Ireland because nobody can get past Bulmers :rolleyes:.

By the way Linden Village is sweeter than Strongbow but not aas swet as Bulmers. Lidl flagons are not bad if your not too embarressed to buy them :P

celticbest

Strongbow in Ireland is made by Bulmers in Clonmel, I presume this is under licence from the UK. Our cans are also different to those sold in the UK.

grenache

Yes its under licence from the UK, i know Scottish & Newcastle used to own it but i think its being bought out by Heineken now. Funny that Heineken would give the brewing rights in Ireland to C&C (Bulmers) who are one of their main competitors. A lot of offies are doing special deals on Strongbow at the moment, 4 cans for 5 euro, 6 cans for 9. Its a really decent cider for the price.

ronaneire

celticbest wrote: »

Strongbow in Ireland is made by Bulmers in Clonmel, I presume this is under licence from the UK. Our cans are also different to those sold in the UK.

Are you sure that Bulmers in Clonmel is produces Strongbow? It is produced in the UK by Bulmers(not to be confused with the Irish Bulmers) who are part of Scotish & Newcastle.

grenache

ronaneire wrote: »

Are you sure that Bulmers in Clonmel is produces Strongbow? It is produced in the UK by Bulmers(not to be confused with the Irish Bulmers) who are part of Scotish & Newcastle.

Yes it says on the can ''produced by Bulmers Ltd, Clonmel''.

judas101

Guinness have a new Cider brand theyre pushing on continental europe called Stowford.

Tastes very similar to Strongbow tbh.

Will probly be in Ireland soon.

grenache

judas101 wrote: »

Guinness have a new Cider brand theyre pushing on continental europe called Stowford.

Tastes very similar to Strongbow tbh.

Will probly be in Ireland soon.

They'll have a difficult time trying to get Europeans onto cider. Apart from the Nordic countries, continental europeans are not partial to cider. Many Polish people i've talked to had not even heard of cider before they came to Ireland.

BeerNut

grenache wrote: »

but i think its being bought out by Heineken now.

Yes, Heineken acquired the Strongbow brand when S&N was divvied up between Heineken and Carlsberg last year.

grenache wrote: »

Funny that Heineken would give the brewing rights in Ireland to C&C (Bulmers) who are one of their main competitors.

It's cheaper to get a cider-maker to make it for you under contract than have to produce it yourself. That's how Beamish & Crawford saw it, and Heineken have inherited the same approach. I suppose the funny really thing is that C&C took the work on, but I'm sure it was a regular source of income for them.

judas101 wrote: »

Guinness have a new Cider brand theyre pushing on continental europe called Stowford.

Will probly be in Ireland soon.

Doubt it. They have Cashels here. Unless they remove that, of course.

grenache wrote: »

They'll have a difficult time trying to get Europeans onto cider.

C&C seem to regard the continent as rich pickings. They pushed Magners hard in Spain, and not just to the Irish tourists and gangsters.

RDM_83

BeerNut wrote: »

C&C seem to regard the continent as rich pickings. They pushed Magners hard in Spain, and not just to the Irish tourists and gangsters.

I had a bottle of Basque cider (or cider type drink i suppose) and have to say if I could get that I would never drink Magners, that said if they have their own brands there probably is a native market

would think that in a lot of europe that market is taken up by weak wine drinks

BeerNut

RDM_83 wrote: »

if I could get that I would never drink Magners

There are some great French and English ciders on the Irish market if you go to the specialist retailers.

judas101

as far as i know, guinness sold cashels. i might be wrong there.

i run a bar in germany and we had to get rid of strongbow and replace it with stowfords as the breweries call the shots for us.

BeerNut

judas101 wrote: »

the breweries call the shots for us.

Why don't you call your own shots? It's your business, isn't it?

judas101

Breweries put a lot of money into pubs.

Particularly with Irish pubs abroad, Guinness have so much influence.

BeerNut

judas101 wrote: »

Particularly with Irish pubs abroad, Guinness have so much influence.

It would be nice if Irish pubs abroad stocked beers from actual Irish companies, but there you go. It'd be nice if more in Ireland did so as well.

/dreams...

judas101

Its hard enough to get a fresh keg of Guinness over here nevermind smaller brewers.

The demand wouldnt be there either.

BeerNut

judas101 wrote: »

Its hard enough to get a fresh keg of Guinness over here

Well there's no excuse for that, surely? If Diageo are going to be so high-handed about the running of your business the least they could do is actually supply their awful beer. Don't you end up feeling that you're running the pub for them?

judas101 wrote: »

The demand wouldnt be there either.

It would be about letting go of Diageo and doing your own marketing instead of piggy-backing off theirs -- creating that demand. Genuine Irish beer has a niche for itself in Ireland, and is making in-roads in the US, thanks in the main to Carlow Brewing. Bord Bia do things to support initiatives like this, and the local diplomatic service may be interested.

Sorry, I'm just thinking out loud here. Not trying to be an armchair bar manager

munchkin_utd

Cider on the continent! A topic close to my heart even though i cant drink the stuff.
(keeping it on topic though, we have a delivery of half a dozen Strongbow kegs from the local distributor for the GAA tournament in Munich tomorrow! So if anyone is about... land down for your dose of strongbow!)

As well as Barceolona, Magners also ploughed over 1 million into introducing it into Munich a couple of years ago. It was surreal to see the 100s of taxis with Magners on the side of them. It was pretty well promoted to be fair. They failed though because:

a) ****e summer. Magners was the sunshine drink and there was no sunshine.
b) "beer menus" - Magners might have been stocked in a place but it wasnt on the nice printed/ laminated list of drinks available so how would you know its there? The first step in buying a drink on the continent is to find out what they have off the drinks card, then you order. Duuuuh Magners! get yourself on the list if you want to succeed
c) price. Christ. For 3 euros in a pub you can get a pint of Munich Beer. For 5+ Euros Magners. With ice to water it down (whats all that about?). Sorry. Fail.
Even in the off licence Magners is 2.70 when you can find it. Thats the price of FOUR bottles of Munich beer (or 10 bottles of some of the more rough stuff). Again - FAIL.

To be fair they got it into an awful lot of places but they really could have picked a less beer(-garden) centred city than Munich.

Carawaystick

grenache wrote: »

They'll have a difficult time trying to get Europeans onto cider. Apart from the Nordic countries, continental europeans are not partial to cider. Many Polish people i've talked to had not even heard of cider before they came to Ireland.

Normans, Bretons and Basques drink Cider too.
Bretons serve it in stoneware cups though.....

Ponster

Carawaystick wrote: »

Bretons serve it in stoneware cups though.....

And I just love it! Cider is the very popular in the north of France but you find parts of the south (esp. the rugby areas) where it's also popular.

IrishWhiskeyCha

Tried Aldi's Tarus in cans lately and it is grand ... probably slightly drier than Strongbow but I prefer it that way not much in it anyway so I might be getting a fwe more from now on

I would love to see a dry cider on the market nationwide in the pubs but it's like everything else in this country people are afraid to look beyond the regular hardy standards hence we don't get the variety as there is no market for it ... only in dark scary corners around the country

BeerNut

IrishWhiskeyCha wrote: »

I would love to see a dry cider on the market nationwide in the pubs

We need to gang up on David Llewellyn. Only he can save us from crap cider

Alternatively, make your own: it's dead easy. Apparently.