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Repeat Exams

  • 28-06-2009 2:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭


    Got the letter only two days ago, and I have to have it filled out and returned to the office by Wednesday, and I cant understand ANY of it!

    How many credits do I need to pass?

    How much do I have to pay?

    Its stupidly confusing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭galwaynative


    Unless it has changed this year the repeat fee covers all resits, it is the same fee regardless of repeating one or all exams in August. Other fees mentioned are probably late fees (250euro?).

    Your form should show clearly the subjects you failed with a question and tick box alongside each one asking if you intend to resit, tick the box if you do. You will at some point have to pass all failed subjects, however you probably have the option to progress into your next year carrying up to 10 credits (the credits may be written next to the subject name on the repeat form), if you are considering not taling all your repeats in Autumn in might be worth seeking advice from your school office.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone know where the admissions office is? I only got the letter a few days abck and was planning on appealing the two I failed but was told that it's advisable to do the repeat.

    Spent a week emailing, ringing and texting the lecturer who failed me on both modules and he has yet to get back. He emailed me once with a breakdown of my marks and told me if I had wanted to discuss them I should have came into the college on the Thrusday or Friday. I would have but gone in but had to attend a family funeral which I had informed him off in my initial email.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    Spent a week emailing, ringing and texting the lecturer who failed me on both modules and he has yet to get back.

    Im the same way with one of my lecturers,seems like some of them are just really lazy! BTW does anyone know if there still working or on holidays?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    donmeister wrote: »
    Im the same way with one of my lecturers,seems like some of them are just really lazy! BTW does anyone know if there still working or on holidays?

    A lot of them don't seem to be that interested once the year ends. I'm trying to make a complaint about the lecturer in question as I discovered that people who missed both the days we were to hand in work got far higher markes than I did.

    Last January when I went to the lecturer a few days before a deadline and informed him that I wouldn't have a project finished till the day after as the camera room was booked out. He told me either I had it done by the deadline or he would fail me, he gave me 0% for the first semester completely ignoring all the other projects and work I did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    A lot of them don't seem to be that interested once the year ends. I'm trying to make a complaint about the lecturer in question as I discovered that people who missed both the days we were to hand in work got far higher markes than I did.

    Last January when I went to the lecturer a few days before a deadline and informed him that I wouldn't have a project finished till the day after as the camera room was booked out. He told me either I had it done by the deadline or he would fail me, he gave me 0% for the first semester completely ignoring all the other projects and work I did.

    This seems to be the case indeed! I'm basically the same way, had nothing but problems all year with just one lecturer, did all the assignments,and low and below he fails me on that module,which requires me to repeat the year,wonderful!

    I contacted the course co-ordinator last week,and she fobbed me off to her superior, now I'm wondering what's the story with appealing the issue, because I should be looking for accommodation now but that's been put on hold till this fiasco has been resolved!

    Terrible carry on!


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    donmeister wrote: »
    This seems to be the case indeed! I'm basically the same way, had nothing but problems all year with just one lecturer, did all the assignments,and low and below he fails me on that module,which requires me to repeat the year,wonderful!

    I contacted the course co-ordinator last week,and she fobbed me off to her superior, now I'm wondering what's the story with appealing the issue, because I should be looking for accommodation now but that's been put on hold till this fiasco has been resolved!

    Terrible carry on!

    I also contacted the course head and the college head but got nowhere. They basically told me that I need to repeat the modules. I'm still waiting on the lecturer to return any of my emails, calls or texts and he has yet to reply. How am I supposed to do the repeat if I don't know what format he wants it done on. It's a joke to be honest, the college never seems to be on the sudents side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭pointofnoreturn


    I also contacted the course head and the college head but got nowhere. They basically told me that I need to repeat the modules. I'm still waiting on the lecturer to return any of my emails, calls or texts and he has yet to reply. How am I supposed to do the repeat if I don't know what format he wants it done on. It's a joke to be honest, the college never seems to be on the sudents side.

    Thats just GMIT in general, I was there for 5years, and they just don't care, no motivation nothing! you just have to go there in person and put them under pressure!!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thats just GMIT in general, I was there for 5years, and they just don't care, no motivation nothing! you just have to go there in person and put them under pressure!!

    That would seem to be the case.

    As I said I firmly believe that myself and others were unfairly marked. A couple of us got 35% even after we handed in all the work needed. We were told that if we missed the presentation date we would fail which happened me at Christmas. Talking to one of the lads, he told me that one of the others in the class who wasn't in for either of the presentations got a higher mark than us. I contacted the college and asked about this and have yet to get a reply.

    Still waiting for the leturer in question to return any of my calls, texts or emails. It's beyond a joke, I want to start my repeat assingment yet I can't as the brief I recieved contained no info on what format we are to use of anything. It's a poor show and one which seems to be par on course for the college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    Hey Darko, I just finished the same course your doing, may I ask, does the surname of the lecturer you're talking about start with a V? If so, I know a few people had problems with him when I was in first year. I just barely passed semester 1, even though everything was handed up on time.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    Hey Darko, I just finished the same course your doing, may I ask, does the surname of the lecturer you're talking about start with a V? If so, I know a few people had problems with him when I was in first year. I just barely passed semester 1, even though everything was handed up on time.

    Aye, his surname does begin with a V and his first name begins with a J. still trying to get him to reply to me and it's really getting annoying. I want to start my repeat but there's no point in doing it and then finding out that I didn't use the correct film type.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    That's terrible behaviour by the lecturers in regards to not giving you a proper brief for your repeats. I do have to discuss the other side of the coin though, even though I emphatise with your situation as I have had to resit modules before and it is no fun!
    I notice though that people are insisting that they should be passed merely for meeting hand-in deadlines. Surely the quality of the work must also be considered with such things. Just because you hand in an assignment on time doesnt mean its an automatic pass. Now if there is favouritism being shown then that is thoroughly unfair I must say. But it seems to be a lot of "a friend of a friend told me that person A got higher marks than person B's friend etc etc"
    Again I do agree that it is unfair of the lack of communication between student/lecturer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    Asmodean wrote: »
    That's terrible behaviour by the lecturers in regards to not giving you a proper brief for your repeats. I do have to discuss the other side of the coin though, even though I emphatise with your situation as I have had to resit modules before and it is no fun!
    I notice though that people are insisting that they should be passed merely for meeting hand-in deadlines. Surely the quality of the work must also be considered with such things. Just because you hand in an assignment on time doesnt mean its an automatic pass. Now if there is favouritism being shown then that is thoroughly unfair I must say. But it seems to be a lot of "a friend of a friend told me that person A got higher marks than person B's friend etc etc"
    Again I do agree that it is unfair of the lack of communication between student/lecturer.

    I agree with that Asmodean, handing up work on time is no reason to pass the year. However, I put a lot of work into the two projects I handed up and I know it deserved more than 42%. Consider this, there was a guy who woke up the morning the first project was due without having it done. He took seven pictures of the same egg on a digital camera (we were supposed to use film) and printed them out on A4 sheets to hand up. It was one egg, from seven different angles. The theme was supposed to be "documentary pictures". I didn't get it, but our esteemed lecturer saw something that was worth 58%. Maybe I'm just not cut out for photography.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with you Asmodean, but it wasn't just a case of handing it up on time with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    I agree with that point completely. A very close friend of mine just graduated from Cluain mhuire and I've seen this sort of behaviour torment her for her entire 4 years. Unfortunately art and photography in that college seem to be the type of courses where the minimum of effort can often lead to highest results:(


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Asmodean wrote: »
    That's terrible behaviour by the lecturers in regards to not giving you a proper brief for your repeats. I do have to discuss the other side of the coin though, even though I emphatise with your situation as I have had to resit modules before and it is no fun!
    I notice though that people are insisting that they should be passed merely for meeting hand-in deadlines. Surely the quality of the work must also be considered with such things. Just because you hand in an assignment on time doesnt mean its an automatic pass. Now if there is favouritism being shown then that is thoroughly unfair I must say. But it seems to be a lot of "a friend of a friend told me that person A got higher marks than person B's friend etc etc"
    Again I do agree that it is unfair of the lack of communication between student/lecturer.

    Not at all, I don't think that by simply handing it up I should be passed. I put a lot of work into all my projects, traveling to Dublin a number of times to do my second project. My problem is people who were absent on both the presentation days which were the deadlines got higher marks than a number of us. We were told that if we were not there he would not accept the work. I know that at Christmas time he failed me even though I went to him and said I would not be able to have the work for the deadline, I had everything finished just needed to develop some stuff. He gave me 0% for the semester even though I had other projects done.

    I know what the other lads got as we all told each other and I sad one of the lads results also.

    Regarding the repeat, I got a brief for it but no information on what format he wants or anything. I don't want to do it on digital and then end up failing as he wanted it on film.

    I know that a number of people in recent years have all had problems with the lecturer and their is a lot of favouritism in the course. I've seen it in other modules also, not being allowed to do an exam for being 5 minutes late yet someone else shows up an hour late with no excuse and can do the exam no problem. One lad I know was too drunk to do it so he text the lecturer saying he was sick, was allowed to do it the week after and didn't even bother showing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    Favouritism is a severe problem in that course, though to be fair, it wasn't that much of a problem with our year (they either liked or hated us all equaly). It still showed up in small doses, mailnly with the lecturers you'd expect it from, but I've heard worse stories coming from other classes.

    I also heard, Darko, that your year was a bit disjointed by one particular student who kept making himself a problem? Of course this is second hand info so I don't know how accurate it is, but out of curiosity (and if you know who I'm talking about) does he have to repeat any exams?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    Favouritism is a severe problem in that course, though to be fair, it wasn't that much of a problem with our year (they either liked or hated us all equaly). It still showed up in small doses, mailnly with the lecturers you'd expect it from, but I've heard worse stories coming from other classes.

    I also heard, Darko, that your year was a bit disjointed by one particular student who kept making himself a problem? Of course this is second hand info so I don't know how accurate it is, but out of curiosity (and if you know who I'm talking about) does he have to repeat any exams?

    There were a few who caused trouble. I got a lot of stick from a few people because I would generally question what lecturers were saying and on a few ocassions corrected them. None of the lecturers had a problem with this and would generally encourage but the way some of my classmates went on you would swear that I was making a scene and stopping everyone else learning.

    If you happen to know the name of the student pm me and I should be able to let you know more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    Lets not mention lecturers name or full initials.

    Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭Perrin


    Did people get there results back in the post cause I didn't?? (although I have checked them online so thats not the problem,just wondering do we get them in the post aswell?)


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I got nothing in the post regarding results either. I've yet to get an invoice regarding the repeat payement either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Na they don't send them out in the post. Rang looking for a copy last week and was told to print them off the web-page. lol typical


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Galway


    Lecturers are under NO obligation to be in college or undertake ANY work over the period 20th June-31st Aug inclusive - (including reply to emails). Thats why there are 2 consultation days after the results are issued. With the public service pension levy and whatever else is down the line - you can imagine that very little in the way of anything extra will be done from Sept.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Galway wrote: »
    Lecturers are under NO obligation to be in college or undertake ANY work over the period 20th June-31st Aug inclusive - (including reply to emails). Thats why there are 2 consultation days after the results are issued. With the public service pension levy and whatever else is down the line - you can imagine that very little in the way of anything extra will be done from Sept.

    They may be under no obligation but some common sense should prevail. If you contact a lecturer to inform them that you will be missing the consultation days due to a family death you expect that they will answer your emails regarding your marks. You also expect for them to be able to tell you which format they want the repeats done on.

    Lecturers in my college never seem to do anything extra what so ever. One lecturer whom I mentioned earlier would walk straigth past you if you asked him a question outside of class informing you that if you he was "not in class now."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭tampler


    Just wondering, does it usually take this long for them to send the invoice? I aint recived mine in the post yet :s


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tampler wrote: »
    Just wondering, does it usually take this long for them to send the invoice? I aint recived mine in the post yet :s

    I don't think anyone has got them yet. I emailed the college but got an automatic reply saying that the humanities department was closed till the 12th of August.

    In fact in the past week I have sent 12 emails to different people, lecturers and administration staff in a bid to find out just what the story is. So far only one lecturer has relied and he did so a short time after I emailed him and was most helpful.

    The lecturer I spoke of earlier in this thread has yet to reply, I have repeatedly rang, emailed and text him. If I do the project on the wrong format it is an instant fail and the seeing as the repeat forms do not stipulate what format is needed I find it highly odd that he simply can't text or email back. All it would take is one word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 fred_1985


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Na they don't send them out in the post. Rang looking for a copy last week and was told to print them off the web-page. lol typical

    Interesting.

    Some employees and most masters courses want an official, signed, transcription of your results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Yeah exactly, funny you should say that. I needed an official transcript and had a hard time getting one of them. Its sorted now though, they should be sending them out automatically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Galway


    You are on a hiding to nothing expecting any response from lecturers over the summer, the contract does not oblige them to undertake ANY college related work 20th June-1st Sept. As the repeat exams are being held in Aug this year, despite the union's reservations, no papers will actually be marked until 1st Sept. Then there is a full week for corrections etc, then exam boards, then results processing. It will be mid sept at earliest before any results are issued. Students will not know if they are back on courses that have already started!! A case of I told u so but of course no one ever listens!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Galway wrote: »
    You are on a hiding to nothing expecting any response from lecturers over the summer, the contract does not oblige them to undertake ANY college related work 20th June-1st Sept. As the repeat exams are being held in Aug this year, despite the union's reservations, no papers will actually be marked until 1st Sept. Then there is a full week for corrections etc, then exam boards, then results processing. It will be mid sept at earliest before any results are issued. Students will not know if they are back on courses that have already started!! A case of I told u so but of course no one ever listens!

    We all know lecturers are under no obligation but when the repeat brief is so vague as not to mention what format is required then you expect a lecturer to reply to this. It's not a case of asking stupid questions or annoying them, what's the point of doing a repeat project only to fail simply because you did it on the wrong format. It is the lecturer's job to outline in the brief what is expected of the student, by not doing so they are failing to fulfill their job and as such any inquiries from students regarding this should be dealt with.

    So useless is the college that they cannot answer any questions till mid august as there is no one there. It's a joke tbh and the saddest thing is that it's exactly what I've come to expect from them. GMIT and the humanities department in particular are an absolute joke if they think that this is acceptable. Chluain Mhuire is treated like an inbred cousin and hidden away with poor facilities and the student union is happy to ignore all grievances regarding it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭foxy_19-89


    anyone know how to go about repeating the year?


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