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reportage photographers

  • 27-06-2009 8:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭


    hi everyone, i'm wondering if anyone has details of reportage photographers in the kilkenny/munster area?

    i've been looking around for a while but haven't found someone i really would like yet. i'm not interested in the usual staged kind of photos where everything and everyone is set up, i've always felt it was a bit forced and i don't really want photos that look like that. i've seen one or two reportage photographers on the net but again their photos just seem a little staid and traditional to me!

    the kind of photography i'm thinking of is something like from this blog: http://onelovephoto.typepad.com/ relaxed and unique :)

    i've been going back on forth on whether to have a photographer or not for a long time (i'm getting married next may). as someone who is interested in photography myself i guess i'm probably being very specific about what i want and also i'm not interested in paying the ridiculous fees that they ask for here in ireland, i would much rather not have an official photographer than feed the greed of people who sqeeze as much money out of weddings as they can, i feel like this about lots of aspects of my wedding - can you tell i'm in recession mode lol. my fiance and i are lucky enough to have jobs but we have had our pay eaten into a lot this year and there may be more cuts in the future so we are looking around a lot and thinking hard about the sums we are spending :)

    i hope this doesn't sound too much like a rant, i just want to be as honest as i can in the hopes of finding someone i really like, i have no problems paying a fair price for a good quality service that i really like :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    reportage style is easy to do for a wedding - I dont do weddings - but have done some as favours and its reportage style.... literally shoot everything that moves.

    (just my opinion) ideally what you would want is a mix of reportage and formal (for the obvious family pics)..... you could try approaching some local newspaper photographers and ask if they would be interested....negotiate a fee and set of ideal pics to get - after that the photographer has carte blanche.

    I know some people that will do it in Dublin - I know one or two photographers who might do it for you in Cork ....not sure if they would be interested in travelling.

    Do you have a budget ? at a guess I would say €1000-€1500 minimum..... but if negotiated properly you would get most of the pics taken on the day. a friend of mine did something similar for his wedding in Sicily - paid a photographer €1000 to just photo everyone and do some formal pics..... I was there as a guest but brought a camera and both bride and groom said the off-the-cuff stuff that I did made my pics better than the "official" photographer......I'm sure they were happy with his stuff too.:rolleyes:

    theres a couple of wedding photographer websites which will give you an idea of the style of photographer and what you can expect to get from the photographer. (ie. images on CD or just prints)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 cavangirl21


    Hi there,
    try vince tully. He is based in Cavan but travels. Did my friends wedding and will hopefully do mine too when the great event happens! Nice guy, very reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    oh.... PS. Congrats on engagement and impending marriage !!! :)

    "marriage is an institution ....... I'm not ready to be institutionalised !!! "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭*eadaoin


    thank you both for your helpful replies :)

    had a look at vince tully, he's not really what i'm looking for, but thanks. his work is too traditional for my tastes!

    PCPhoto thanks for your advice. i think you're right about the mix of formal and reportage, it would be good to have the usual family pics as a record. if you can give me any names, websites or places i can see sample work of people you know in the business i'd really appreciate it! send me a PM if you like. i have been trawling the web but not found anyone i'd really like to hire yet, maybe i'm being too fussy?

    i'm not really willing to spend more than €1000 to be very honest with you, i think that's plenty for one days work! and ideally i would like to get the files on disc rather than an album so that i can choose and print (and possibly edit) what i want myself. jaysus i think i'll probably just end up taking the photos myself i'm feeling like such a control freak about it lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭texanman


    I think Philip Bourke is an excellent reportage photographer. Check out his site.
    http://www.philipbourke.com/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭MJOR


    Brian Terry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    I cover Ireland and can go down that far without any problems.

    PM your email address and I will touch base offline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 pippins


    I would recommend David McClelland, he does reportage photography and is very very good. Not expensive and gives you a coffee style allbum (I did not want a traditional album) and all your photos on a cd that you can print from yourself, think his basic package is E1200. Fantastic guy to deal with!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 MimiQ


    Hi,
    Try Roger Kenny
    www.rogerkenny.ie
    he is a reportage specialist and works nationwide
    MiMi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭Cameraman


    *eadaoin wrote: »
    thank you both for your helpful replies :)
    i'm not really willing to spend more than €1000 to be very honest with you, i think that's plenty for one days work!

    It's a common misconception - but for most photographers, it's anything but 1 days work. For me, it's usually 4-5 days (give or take a little depending on the circumstances).

    The other interesting thing is the photographer whose work you linked to. I also like her style and photos.
    Her package prices are $2900-$5800. Albums in addition to that are $800 to $2500. Draw your own conclusions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Have a chat with Niall Fennessy, I think he would suit your needs.

    http://www.niallfennessyphotography.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭*eadaoin


    thanks everyone for your replies, i'm sorry i'm late replying but i have had no time in the last week to get around to it :)

    i'm afraid i still haven't really found someone i really like, it's not that i simply want a reportage style but i'm interested in artistic shots rather than the traditional ones, vintage inspired, lots of good texture work, shallow depth of field, lots of bokeh, unusual viewpoints and lenses (like ttv or lensbaby shots). perhaps i'm asking for too much, but there's no point in not trying anyway :)

    here's another site to give anyone an idea of what i mean: http://www.simplybloomphotography.com

    as for the discussion on price to be very honest i would be ashamed as a photographer to ask for some of the prices that i have been quoted. i know that there can be a lot of processing work but unless the work is incredibly high quality i don't think there is need for those kinds of prices. i know the first link i posted charges quite a lot for her work but that's why i asked if anyone knew someone who doesn't charge the earth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 notmyname79


    Try memorylane.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Anouilh


    If you post a link to thread in the Photography Forum the people there will be sure to find the sort of person you need in your area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bolomore


    Tread carefully when photographers claim to shoot in a reportage style. More often than not it will be (c)reportage.
    A good reportage photographer will want to meet you before the wedding and get to know you and learn who are the really important people in your life. They will then endeavour to get some memorable photographs of your loved ones above all else. A good reportage photographer doesn't just shoot off a couple of hundred shots in the hope of capturing a few good ones.
    I would be delighted to discuss shooting your wedding for free. Let me know if you want to discuss this further.

    Good luck with the planning and enjoy your day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 laobhaoise


    Admittedly there'd be a certain amount of risk involved, but have you thought about tapping into recent art/photography graduates?

    You'd obviously have to do your homework - vet their abilities by scrutinising college portfolios or other examples of work, maybe a test shoot? - but there's a lot of talent out there and I'm sure those bright young things would be delighted to get material for their professional portfolios and build up a reputation.

    Try advertising on college noticeboards or attending final year exhibitions and grad shows. For the reportage angle, maybe the film & broadcasting grads from DIT Aungier St would be up your street.

    Also, a fun idea (to supplement the pro pics) is giving disposable cameras to the kids at the reception: keeps them entertained and you get a look at what adults tend to miss (especially after a few glasses of champagne).

    On a more general cost-cutting note, try bartering: your professional services in exchange for the photographer's, eg web design or letter writing. Tap into your tradeable skills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭An Bhanríon


    This may not be what you are looking for, as you seem to be looking for very high quality photographs...

    I know people who asked around 4 different guests (people with good cameras who like taking photographs) to take photographs at their wedding. They got some gorgeous natural photos (in my opinion!) and none of the guests felt under too much pressure as they knew there were a few other people taking photos also.

    Hope you find your dream photographer!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bolomore


    Please be careful when you look for a reportage photographer. More often than not it will end up more like (C)reportage.
    Even on one of the posts, some guys states it's easy, just shoot everything! Don't fall for that. If one were to take this advice, simply ask everyone who attended the wedding to get you a copy of their pics, you'll end up with the same thing.
    What you should be looking for is someone who will get candid photos of the people that matter to you. They need to sit down and have a chat, find out who these people are. Even when doing (good) reportage you still need quality, good composition to get meaningful shots. You'll only get one chance to do this, do it right and enjoy it.
    Don't hesitate to contact me if you feel it may help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 doozerkk




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 bolomore


    I have actually seen her work. If it's who I'm thinking of her work is adaquate. Won't win any awards though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭SalthillGuy


    Hi,
    I've been told that Cathal Tiernal in Galway is excellent and he travels the country - http://www.ctexcelphoto.ie
    A friend used him for her wedding and she was very impressed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 AlasPoorYoric


    Try www.studio22ireland.com nice guy to deal with!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 megna




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 gemsan


    try Philip Leonard www.leonard-photo.com - we booked him for his relaxed style but he does mix in some formal as well - has done two weddings of friends of mine recently and the albums are stunning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Glowing


    Bartosz Jastal - we've just booked him for our wedding in Italy and his shots are truly amazing!

    http://bartoszjastal.dkonto.pl/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭CCSL


    Try Conor Buckley at Refinephoto.net a gent to deal with very flexable and amazing results.
    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Alex13




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    I have a lot of sympathy with the original poster's question about finding photographers who shoot natural looking, journalistic type shots. I co-own a wedding photography studio in the US (got the greencard about 10 years ago and moved here) and it's appalling to witness the myriad of sins masked by people who represent themselves as doing 'candid' or 'photojournalistic' work. I personally love this style and it's the way we shoot weddings at our studio but it is REALLY difficult to do this well, it takes a ton of skill and experience. I would say that barely 10% of the photographers who market themselves in this way are professionals who have the technical or artistic ability to shoot weddings in this style. That might sound harsh but if you look beyond the veneer of the "highlight" images on their websites, that's the reality.

    It's well known in the industry that this kind of photography is what sophisticated customers want, and the sophisticated customer tends to be the one who values photography enough to actually pay a professional rate for it. Remember, all it takes to call yourself a wedding photographer these days is a fancy looking digital camera and a flashy website. After that the formula seems to involve going out and shooting a bunch of weddings for free, or practically nothing, taking thousands of shots and hoping that you get a dozen or so half-decent ones which you will then manipulate the hell out of in photoshop so that you can go online and market yourself as a 'professional' wedding photographer. That's where we are right now and I would say to any bride booking a wedding shooter to vet the bejasus out of prospective photographers.

    If you want some tips on how to choose a professional who won't screw up your big day (remember, you don't get a second chance to take these photos) then I'd humbly suggest you consider the following:

    (1) ask to see COMPLETE galleries of previous weddings, not just a couple of "highlight" shots from each wedding.

    (2) Can the photographer make the bride look good? Look for nice close-up shots showing the bride's face. Arty shots of the bride taken from behind or silhouetted against a bright window are great but it's the photographer's job to make you look the very best you can and to capture some of your personality/emotion on the day.

    (3) When looking at the portraits, most of the shots should not look posed or artifical. Do people look relaxed in the shots? As if they've been caught in some moment or emotion? Or do they look like they were told to "stand over there, now look this way" etc? Be critical when evaluating this because the ability to do this is what makes a genuine photojournalist.

    (4) Ask to see shots taken indoors at night, entirely lit with artificial light. These will sort out the men from the boys as just about anybody can shoot outdoors during the daytime. Look for exciting, lushly colored shots of people dancing to fast songs. Photographers who can capture atmosphere and movement at nighttime in a dark reception room and still make the shot look great are on the top of their game.

    (5) Look for plenty of shots with richly saturated but non-fake looking colours. Watch out for tacky photoshop processing and cheesy effects, artificially colored skies, etc. Good photographers very rarely do that crap.

    Hope the above doesn't come off as judgmental, I just think that couples have a right to get a competent professional if they're paying a professional rate and there really are a lot of cowboys out there these days. And by the way you should pay a photographer a professional rate, most good ones will spend the best part of a week editing and retouching your photos in order to really make them shine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 August10


    Completely agree - you should post that in weddingsonline for some brides to read - over there the cheapest is always in demand with usually no regard for quality.

    I can second rory kellett he did our wedding and you get what you pay for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭*eadaoin


    thanks everyone for all the links, i finally found someone on a reccomendation who is just what i'm looking for: http://aspectphotography.net/index.html

    he has offered us a great deal, yes it's over €1000 but i'm happy to pay because i really love his work, he's a high quality photographer & has great artistic talent, a unique portfolio and i actually think that it's worth it. i can't believe the prices some photographers ask for work that is much lower quality and quite repetitive! i've seen the same kind of wedding shots over and over. an relative of mine who got married over 10 years ago looked at her wedding photographers website and saw that this person was still taking the exact same photos with the wedding party or bride in the exact same poses 10 years later! i know the irish market is somewhat traditional but i think it's a bit ridiculous to be repeating the same shots over and over.

    anyway, he gave us a great deal and impressed us both with his fantastic attitude and approach to his work. and he's also going to do some unusal work for me with lomography and lensbaby which makes me very happy!

    Paul your post on wedding photographers is really excellent, these are all important things that should be taken into consideration and i don't think it sounded judgemental at all. it's important to make sure you're getting good quality for the price that you're being asked to pay :)

    thanks a million for all the replies and PMs but i'm happy now with who i've chosen :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    *eadaoin wrote: »
    thanks everyone for all the links, i finally found someone

    Well done and it seems a good choice too :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    website looks very impressive and price is excellent ...... a good find ...congrats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭smelltheglove


    I've been watching this thread for a while and I have to say Pauls post is excellent. It takes a highly skilled photographer to do reportage well, it is something that people think, oh yeah I'll just go out and take a load of pics of the guests laughing' but its not that easy.

    Reportage is not my style before we go any further, so I'm not trying to jump on the bandwagon, although I include natural shots I am aiming for something more edgy than the norm. There are a lot of photographers out there offering the same sort of shots and it can be very hard to choose, I know myself from when I was looking I found it almost impossible to find the right photographer for my wedding. The only one that blew me away quoted €2400 which was way out of my budget. There seems to be a lot more choice now, even though I only married a year ago.

    Couples need to decide what they want from their photographer, if they want traditional go with the norm, natural go with reportage or something different they need go for someone who supplies this. Some photographers will say you need should only spend a day editing, like Paul said the guts of a week is a good time scale, I would do normal edits and come back a couple of days later with a fresh mind and then add my extra touches over the course of another couple of days, coming back bit by bit in order to give each shot equal attention rather than try to rush things.

    I'm glad you have finally chosen your photographer and hope you are satisfied with the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭daycent


    *eadaoin wrote: »
    thanks everyone for all the links, i finally found someone on a reccomendation who is just what i'm looking for: http://aspectphotography.net/index.html

    You're welcome :D

    Shane is an excellent photographer, with a unique style which is rare these days. One of the few wedding photographers in Ireland I've been impressed with from my trawls through the internet. He's one of the few photographers I'd want to do my own wedding. (if that day ever comes :pac:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭KATM


    *eadaoin wrote: »
    thanks everyone for all the links, i finally found someone on a reccomendation who is just what i'm looking for: http://aspectphotography.net/index.html

    he has offered us a great deal, yes it's over €1000 but i'm happy to pay because i really love his work, he's a high quality photographer & has great artistic talent, a unique portfolio and i actually think that it's worth it. i can't believe the prices some photographers ask for work that is much lower quality and quite repetitive! i've seen the same kind of wedding shots over and over. an relative of mine who got married over 10 years ago looked at her wedding photographers website and saw that this person was still taking the exact same photos with the wedding party or bride in the exact same poses 10 years later! i know the irish market is somewhat traditional but i think it's a bit ridiculous to be repeating the same shots over and over.

    anyway, he gave us a great deal and impressed us both with his fantastic attitude and approach to his work. and he's also going to do some unusal work for me with lomography and lensbaby which makes me very happy!

    Paul your post on wedding photographers is really excellent, these are all important things that should be taken into consideration and i don't think it sounded judgemental at all. it's important to make sure you're getting good quality for the price that you're being asked to pay :)

    thanks a million for all the replies and PMs but i'm happy now with who i've chosen :D

    Hi there,

    I understand that quite a while has passed since your post re: wedding photographers. But we are in a very similar predicament at the moment. Is there anyway you could share the price you were charged by aspect photography for your wedding?

    Thanks,
    K


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭SueWho


    I am thinking about getting Roger Overall- he comes highly recommended from a few people I know and he has won numerous awards for reportage photography. He has a great blog on his website. He is pricey but I think I would rather pay for excellent photos and have no video that average photos and an average video.


    http://www.rogeroverall.net/#/Wedding%20Stories/Ashleigh%20&%20Dominic/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Heineken Helen


    This may not be what you are looking for, as you seem to be looking for very high quality photographs...

    I know people who asked around 4 different guests (people with good cameras who like taking photographs) to take photographs at their wedding. They got some gorgeous natural photos (in my opinion!) and none of the guests felt under too much pressure as they knew there were a few other people taking photos also.

    Hope you find your dream photographer!

    This is what I'm hoping to do... At the top of my head I can think of 4 people who treat photography as a 'serious hobby' who will be at my wedding. They have good cameras too and I always enjoy looking through their pics after any event so I know they're good. I can arrange for them to be sat at key places in the church etc and ask them if they would like to offer their skills as my wedding gift. This is one example of how I want people to be involved at the wedding, not only to save costs but also to make it more intimate.

    I have to figure out who to ask to do the video yet.


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