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What does God is Good mean?

  • 26-06-2009 10:39am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭


    Just a strange question I guess and might seem like a very obvious answer.


    But what do people think of the saying that GOD is good.

    What does God mean to you?

    What does Good mean to you?

    And what does God is good mean?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Terra wrote: »
    Just a strange question I guess and might seem like a very obvious answer.


    But what do people think of the saying that GOD is good.

    What does God mean to you?

    What does Good mean to you?

    And what does God is good mean?

    I think it means that everything that God does for us is for our wellbeing. Even when God punishes us, it is to remind us that our beginning and end is in God. I think God's goodness is without limit. Jesus is absolute proof that God loves us. God the Father send His innocent Son to die at the hands of sinners whom He came to redeem with His blood. Incredibly humble!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭Terra


    What if good is actually our connection too god.

    When people for instance say that the can't believe in a god.

    What in there mind to the think that this god is that the can't believe in.

    This is taking a very simplisitic approach but instead of saying God is Good.

    If I rephrase it and say Good is actually God.

    I think everyone on the planet can see good, they know good is real.

    If we bring everything down to the most simplistic level and say the whole purpose of it all is to see good, and try and follow the good in our hearts.


    God is ever forgiving.... well we could say that Good is also ever forgiving.

    Jesus came from God....welll we could say Jesus came from Good.

    Jesus is God, how about rephrasing and saying Jesus is Good

    It's the belief in this good energy, good path that gives us that magical feeling inside of real power.

    If you believe enough in god you can move mountains, this can sound a bit far fetched to some people.

    But rephrase, if you believe enough in the power of good, you can move mountains.

    Dunno I guess I'm just pondering God = Good, and the lord is the Source of all this good energy that binds us all together.

    Evil is what disconnects us from this good but this is why god is always forgiving as anyone no matter how bad they are or how much the fall can turn around and make good choices...there always is good, there always is god.

    I guess I'm rambling making no sense at all but just thinking aloud I guess. Sorry for the ramble


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭Terra


    kelly1 wrote: »
    I think it means that everything that God does for us is for our wellbeing. Even when God punishes us, it is to remind us that our beginning and end is in God. I think God's goodness is without limit. Jesus is absolute proof that God loves us. God the Father send His innocent Son to die at the hands of sinners whom He came to redeem with His blood. Incredibly humble!

    I don't believe that God punishes, ever - good doesn't punish and God and good are the same thing.


    Punishment is something we created by disconnecting from Good. We punish ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Terra wrote: »
    I don't believe that God punishes, ever - good doesn't punish and God and good are the same thing.

    Punishment is something we created by disconnecting from Good. We punish ourselves.

    That's a good way of looking at it though I do think God can withdraw graces when we sin and certainly where there is mortal sin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    I don't think that it is Biblical to say that God often sends punishment for sin. Perhaps he does occasionally but it seems that more often, "bad" things that happen to us are there to test us or improve us in some way (see James), or to show His glory (blind man). It is typical of human religious impulses to see "bad" things as "punishments on the wicked" because that lets the person making this observation feel self-righteous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Morbert


    The bad things than happen to mankind are often interpreted as a consequence of separation from God (sin), rather than a corrective measure issued by God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Morbert


    Terra wrote: »
    Just a strange question I guess and might seem like a very obvious answer.


    But what do people think of the saying that GOD is good.

    What does God mean to you?

    What does Good mean to you?

    And what does God is good mean?

    As far as I am aware, good and bad are defined in termes of God (assuming you're christian). i.e. Following God's will is good, and turning away from him is bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭Terra


    So following god's will is good....


    So in a simplistic way... if we make a decision and we feel good about it then we know that god says yes to that decision and we are following his will.


    If we feel bad about a decision then we are goign against gods will

    So the good feeling is the way god communicates "yes" to us and the not good feeling is how god communicates "no" to us ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Terra wrote: »
    So the good feeling is the way god communicates "yes" to us and the not good feeling is how god communicates "no" to us ?
    Are you talking about conscience? Even conscience can be unreliable. God's will has to be revlealed by God as it was in Jesus Christ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    Terra wrote: »
    So following god's will is good....


    So in a simplistic way... if we make a decision and we feel good about it then we know that god says yes to that decision and we are following his will.


    If we feel bad about a decision then we are goign against gods will

    So the good feeling is the way god communicates "yes" to us and the not good feeling is how god communicates "no" to us ?

    No. People often feel good about doing the most loathsome things. For example, some Nazi concentration camp guards felt good about 'doing their duty'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    PDN wrote: »
    No. People often feel good about doing the most loathsome things. For example, some Nazi concentration camp guards felt good about 'doing their duty'.

    I actually disagree with this. Admittantly in my ignorance, I think all people know when they are doing wrong when it is obviously so. I think Nazi guards etc, though heartless, will have had pangs in their concience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭wolfsbane


    JimiTime wrote: »
    I actually disagree with this. Admittantly in my ignorance, I think all people know when they are doing wrong when it is obviously so. I think Nazi guards etc, though heartless, will have had pangs in their concience.
    OK, but remember that the heart is not the same as the conscience. Our evil heart can rejoice in evil, suppressing conscience with a greater or lesser degree of success. The Nazi guards were personally praised by Himmler for carrying out their 'difficult' duties. It was reported that he too trembled when he observed the gas-chambers. But they were happy to continue doing the evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    wolfsbane wrote: »
    OK, but remember that the heart is not the same as the conscience. Our evil heart can rejoice in evil, suppressing conscience with a greater or lesser degree of success. The Nazi guards were personally praised by Himmler for carrying out their 'difficult' duties. It was reported that he too trembled when he observed the gas-chambers. But they were happy to continue doing the evil.

    Again, its only opinion, but I would question if they were 'happy' continuing their evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭wolfsbane


    JimiTime wrote: »
    Again, its only opinion, but I would question if they were 'happy' continuing their evil.
    Once they persuaded themselves they were doing good, no matter how difficult or naturally distressing, a contentment comes upon the perpetrator. I've known terrorist killers up here who rejoiced when they were shown pre-trial pictures of their victims lying where they left them. "A good job, well done" - for the cause was right.

    Ordinary criminals can continue in their crimes happily, justifying it to themselves as being their 'trade', or that they had no option, etc. Conscience tells them otherwise, but they suppress it as best they can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    wolfsbane wrote: »
    Once they persuaded themselves they were doing good, no matter how difficult or naturally distressing, a contentment comes upon the perpetrator. I've known terrorist killers up here who rejoiced when they were shown pre-trial pictures of their victims lying where they left them. "A good job, well done" - for the cause was right.

    Ordinary criminals can continue in their crimes happily, justifying it to themselves as being their 'trade', or that they had no option, etc. Conscience tells them otherwise, but they suppress it as best they can.


    I'd agree with this.


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