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new holland ts115

  • 26-06-2009 10:35am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭


    lads anyone familiar with these tractors, looking on tinernet and there seems to be a fair few around from the 2000 onwards with 4 to 5 thouasand hrs, they have the older type bonnet but I always thought they were a real tidy looking tractor..are they much like the 110-90 or have they alot of electronics. do they give trouble or whats the general feeling on them and how are they on fuel, have a newer type massey and find it heavy enough on juice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭powerfarmer


    Ya i noticed that too, theres quite a few of them on the market.
    Neighbour just bought a 01 one 5k hours and in fairly tidy condition.
    Any of the ones I've seen all have the SLE gearbox and electronic lift controls, air con and 4 spools. So looks like quite a bit of electronics but seems to be reliable.

    Maybe there was lower spec mechanical version too? I know that the 7840s were available in an "special" version with the SLE gearbox but mechanical control lift.

    On 110-90s local NH mechanic says that the nearest thing to a 110-90 is a TM 120 classic , basic spec tractor, apparently the backend is similar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    do you mind me asking what type of ballpark figure he had to cough up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭powerfarmer


    I'd like to know that myself!! He wouldnt say he's very coy when it comes to how much he pays for stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    We have a 2000 TS115 from new. It has 3,000 hours up.

    It has a 7.5L normally aspirated Powerstar engine bolted onto an 8340 back end. Ours is the equivalent of the "SL" spec. Basically a 12x12 gearbox with dual power, manual lift and 2 spools.

    The only problems with it in 9 years was the PTO failed under warranty (when it was 6 months old) and last year the fan belt snapped. Otherwise it has been flawless.

    It isn't the most hectic tractor to pull, and to be honest the zetor 6340 (80hp) we had before it wasn't much slower with a load. It is a bit rough on the road too. It can of course be turbocharged as most of them are, but we have not had the need for the 130 or so hp this can deliver.

    As regards fuel, I actually don't know. It definately burns more than a Ford 4000, it has a 200L tank and it will be quite empty after a full day mowing. Expect to burn half as much baling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    good info cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭mooverlive


    had one of these guess it was a monday morning job ;it broke my heart for 3 years had to get rid of it the back end of it was pure putty, broke crown and pinion and blew clutch pack which i got done in it about 2 months earlier when she went she was ecellant power wise she was throwing out about 140 hp still stayed with newholland bought a ts125a


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 padraickane


    lads i have a massey 1995 135 horse now i want to move to a new holland ts 115 turbo what is the best model an year to buy all info welcome:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 sthil


    I bought 03 ts115 off local dealer about 2 months ago, its an sle special with left hand reverse and manual lift controls. It has a turbo which brings it up to about 130 hp. There`s 600x65x38 on back and 480x65x28 on front. Had to give 18k with my 7740 for it, 7740 had 12000 hours on it and needed a bit of work . I got 2 new back tyres worth about 2500 and 6 month warranty, was best deal around locally , good black chassis 115`s are making up to 30k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 planning


    We bough our ts115 turbo new in 2001. We have 9000 hrs up on. The tractor was never spared. Hope to get another few years out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭coronaextra


    Used to drive a 2001 ts115 a few years back, non turbo, with only two power shifts (dual power). had it attached mostly to a wood chipper, and also done a good bit of road work with it, had a loader attached on the front.
    Never had any problems at all, it may have been a bit light for road work, always seemed to be bouncing around ( however the loader may have had something to do with this). As mentioned above it didnt seem to be the best for pulling either but then it only had 100 horses and with the dual power you would have to clutch and change gear when it started to die going up the hill with a heavy load. Therefore the sle model would be better for road work etc.

    As for going turbo I have never driven one but that seems a serious power increase! Did they ever leave the factory with a turbo or was it an aftermarket bolt on? And does anyone know should the pistons and rings be changed when fitting the turbo to this engine?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    As for going turbo I have never driven one but that seems a serious power increase! Did they ever leave the factory with a turbo or was it an aftermarket bolt on? And does anyone know should the pistons and rings be changed when fitting the turbo to this engine?

    All aftermarket jobs. According to the main dealer the pistons and rings should be replaced according to the book, but they never are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    Drove a ts 115 for a few summers drawing silage. Didnt like i atall, was too light trailer kept pushin it around the place, couldnt wait to get back up on the old TW.That said it was probably just too small for the job it was being asked to do.Not sure if it was my imagination but I seemed to find the TW far more manoeuvrable round tight yards..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    Use to use a Ts in work Non turbo model. As mentioned above didnt really like it at all. Much preferred the TM Model with the auto box. Awefully comfy and plenty of power!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭martydunf


    What are they like for general farm use tho? Thinking about getting one but it wont be used to draw silage or any heavy work like that..

    I havent heard great things about them in the past, but from reading the above comments they dont seem that bad or troublesome, so how suited would they be for general farm use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    martydunf wrote: »
    What are they like for general farm use tho? Thinking about getting one but it wont be used to draw silage or any heavy work like that..

    I havent heard great things about them in the past, but from reading the above comments they dont seem that bad or troublesome, so how suited would they be for general farm use?

    That is what we use ours for. Good solid simple tractor that hasn't needed a wrech to it in 10 years and still looks as good as new.

    Can't imagine any tractor being much better for general farm use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭coronaextra


    martydunf wrote: »
    What are they like for general farm use tho? Thinking about getting one but it wont be used to draw silage or any heavy work like that..

    I havent heard great things about them in the past, but from reading the above comments they dont seem that bad or troublesome, so how suited would they be for general farm use?

    Ideal farm tractor! small, compact and above all, very reliable!
    It probably wasnt really designed with heavy road work etc. in mind. A lot of people (including myself) have been on criticizing it for being a bit too small and light for heavy road work!

    But I supose when all you have to complain about is that its a bit bouncy on the road, that says it all really :D very good all round tractor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    Ideal farm tractor! small, compact and above all, very reliable!
    It probably wasnt really designed with heavy road work etc. in mind. A lot of people (including myself) have been on criticizing it for being a bit too small and light for heavy road work!

    But I supose when all you have to complain about is that its a bit bouncy on the road, that says it all really :D very good all round tractor.

    Of course you could get a Case. Same tractor, made in same factory, from same major components. Covered over with different shaped bonnet and painted red. Save yourself good few quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭coronaextra


    Tora Bora wrote: »
    Of course you could get a Case. Same tractor, made in same factory, from same major components. Covered over with different shaped bonnet and painted red. Save yourself good few quid.

    Thats very true the 115s seem to be a bit pricy alright! seem to hold their value very well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 sthil


    All new ts 115`s came non turbo as standard, a friend of mine bought one new in 02 and got main dealer to fit a turbo on it but he was told that new holland would not guarantee engine if he did . He still put it on though. It has over 10000 hours on it now and still going strong. He used for mowing silage for a contractor for 3 years, pulling a 10 foot john deere mower with swarther


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Digging this one up again.

    Going looking at a 115 sle with a manual lift and shuttle on Saturday. I know a bit about these yokes but what should I keep an eye out for. I know the earlier sle gearboxes had issues but the newer ones were pretty good. How would I know if there were issues with it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 sthil


    There will be a jerk when you change between gears when driving if there's a problem with the gearbox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    sthil wrote: »
    There will be a jerk when you change between gears when driving if there's a problem with the gearbox
    How much of a jerk? I know I have one when I change the dual power on the 7610, should the change be smooth like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 sthil


    All the gear changes should be the same slight jerk ok no big one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    sthil wrote: »
    All the gear changes should be the same slight jerk ok no big one

    Cool, anything to look out for with shuttle should that be nice an smooth too when changing direction? Was planning on checking the clutch by using the old trick of trying to take off in top gear to see if there is any slippage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭aidanki


    Tora Bora wrote: »
    Of course you could get a Case. Same tractor, made in same factory, from same major components. Covered over with different shaped bonnet and painted red. Save yourself good few quid.
    Thats very true the 115s seem to be a bit pricy alright! seem to hold their value very well

    what model case would be the same as a TS115 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    aidanki wrote: »
    what model case would be the same as a TS115 ?

    No equivalent, TS115 was out before similar tractors were sold I'm blue and red.

    At this power level, their successor the TSA was the first in blue and red as the MXU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    its funny to see an old thread popping up, was looking at the date i posted it, could believe it so long ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    its funny to see an old thread popping up, was looking at the date i posted it, could believe it so long ago

    yeah was trolling through some older threads to see what people think of them. Easier to bump an old one to jog memeiros.

    Did you get one in the end badger?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    yeah was trolling through some older threads to see what people think of them. Easier to bump an old one to jog memeiros.

    Did you get one in the end badger?

    dont even remember posted it to be honest but i ended up buying kubota 125 the following year anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    nashmach wrote: »
    No equivalent, TS115 was out before similar tractors were sold I'm blue and red.

    At this power level, their successor the TSA was the first in blue and red as the MXU.

    There was tractors available in both blue and red at that point but was only the large tm/mxm range!

    We had a ts100 here sldp spec ran to 7200 hours, it did a clutch in that time due to an oil seal failing in the dual power unit and leaking to clutch. Other than that never a problem( well an injector pump but that was courtesy of dirty diesel doing the rounds) it was turned up a bit an pulled well for its size, even managed a 20ft smyth silage trailer last year... It wa always a comfortable and handy tractor, we'd have kept it if funds had allowed but unfortunately not :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Well went to see a couple of these today. Got a few questions though. I'm not that well up on the SLE gearboxes so not sure if there might be an issue but think there might be something that might cause an issue later down the line?

    Tractor #1
    Left hand shuttle, works fine but only in the low gearbox I have to use the clutch before changing direction in the high box or it won't go.

    Moving from the high to the low gearbox (outer lever) was fine

    Moving through the ranges was quite good only one doing any kind of jumping was going into and out of #2. What I did notice was when moved back down from the upper range to the lower range the gears would go back to #1 instead of #4. I assume it shouldn't do that so what does that show?

    Tractor#2
    Shuttle is on the gear console on the right, works nice and smoothly in all gears, high and low box

    Changing between the high and low high box was a lot harder and needed to pushed and pulled pretty hard even with the clutch down.

    Changing through the gears was ok again only jumping was in gear 2. What I did hear was a kind of whining noise after I changed.

    On both tractors changing from the lower to upper range and back down was hard enough.

    Also one of them is getting a new set of tyres front and back, what would a full set of tyres be worth?

    The rest of the tractor was good on both counts, engine and other bits all working well. Just not convinced about the gearboxes or am I thinking too much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    Well went to see a couple of these today. Got a few questions though. I'm not that well up on the SLE gearboxes so not sure if there might be an issue but think there might be something that might cause an issue later down the line?

    Tractor #1
    Left hand shuttle, works fine but only in the low gearbox I have to use the clutch before changing direction in the high box or it won't go.

    Moving from the high to the low gearbox (outer lever) was fine

    Moving through the ranges was quite good only one doing any kind of jumping was going into and out of #2. What I did notice was when moved back down from the upper range to the lower range the gears would go back to #1 instead of #4. I assume it shouldn't do that so what does that show?

    Tractor#2
    Shuttle is on the gear console on the right, works nice and smoothly in all gears, high and low box

    Changing between the high and low high box was a lot harder and needed to pushed and pulled pretty hard even with the clutch down.

    Changing through the gears was ok again only jumping was in gear 2. What I did hear was a kind of whining noise after I changed.

    On both tractors changing from the lower to upper range and back down was hard enough.

    Also one of them is getting a new set of tyres front and back, what would a full set of tyres be worth?

    The rest of the tractor was good on both counts, engine and other bits all working well. Just not convinced about the gearboxes or am I thinking too much?

    When u say wont go in relation to the shuttle did it jus beep and flash up cp on the dash? If so that is just normally if your going to fast when shuttling and it wont release ye clutch to avoid damage.

    Tyres for a full set depending on brands/size could be any were from about 3k up.....

    I wouldn't be overly worried about the gearboxes, they were originally launched in 92 with the 40 series and are still pretty much the same box in the new t6's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Zr105 wrote: »
    When u say wont go in relation to the shuttle did it jus beep and flash up cp on the dash? If so that is just normally if your going to fast when shuttling and it wont release ye clutch to avoid damage.

    Tyres for a full set depending on brands/size could be any were from about 3k up.....

    I wouldn't be overly worried about the gearboxes, they were originally launched in 92 with the 40 series and are still pretty much the same box in the new t6's

    Yeah nothing was showing up on the dash. The N wasn't showing on the dash and the arrow for reverse didn't light. Wasn't under big pressure or high revs. The other one shuttled with no problems. Am I right in saying the levers for changing the range and gearbox are cables so they can be adjusted. Maybe the reason they were hard to move was that they need adjustment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    Yeah nothing was showing up on the dash. The N wasn't showing on the dash and the arrow for reverse didn't light. Wasn't under big pressure or high revs. The other one shuttled with no problems. Am I right in saying the levers for changing the range and gearbox are cables so they can be adjusted. Maybe the reason they were hard to move was that they need adjustment

    Then it may be a little more, our ts was a dual power with right hand shuttle but if you used the button to shuttle when going to fast it would just beep and show up cp on the dash, dip the clutch and she went on grand.

    And yes the levers are cabled. Our ts had a disliking for 3rd gear, always had to push a bit harder but it was like that from 2500hrs when it arrived to 7200 when it left and gave no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Zr105 wrote: »
    Then it may be a little more, our ts was a dual power with right hand shuttle but if you used the button to shuttle when going to fast it would just beep and show up cp on the dash, dip the clutch and she went on grand.

    And yes the levers are cabled. Our ts had a disliking for 3rd gear, always had to push a bit harder but it was like that from 2500hrs when it arrived to 7200 when it left and gave no problem

    The DP version is that the ones with the 24X24 gear box rather then the sle?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    The DP version is that the ones with the 24X24 gear box rather then the sle?

    Yep thats the one! Both gearboxes started in 92 with the introduction of the 40series and have continued on with minimal change right up to present


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