Bastareaud - Le Plonker

Requiem4adream

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/8112028.stm


France centre Mathieu Bastareaud has admitted to lying after claiming he was forced to leave the tour of New Zealand after being attacked in Wellington.

Bastareaud originally said he was set upon by four or five people outside his hotel, but now claims he fell over a table in his hotel room.

New Zealand's Prime Minister, John Key, was moved to apologise after news of the attack surfaced on Sunday.

"I owe the truth to everybody," said the 20-year-old Stade Francais star.

"On Saturday evening, I returned to the hotel after having drunk too much. I fell in my bedroom and scarred my cheekbone on the table in the room.

"I was ashamed and panicked and I thought I would be sent packing by the team management.

"I recounted the original story because I thought it would be believed, but given the coverage it has subsequently received I thought it would be better to tell the truth."

Bastareaud added that he had not wanted to upset his family, who are deeply religious.

"I did not want my family to be ashamed," he said. "I panicked and I dug myself deeper into a hole.

"I would like to apologise to the New Zealand Federation, to the city of Wellington, to the French players, the coaching staff, my team, my friends and all of those who were part of the story."

Stade Francais owner Max Guazzini also issued a statement saying the incident was youthful misadventure.

"It was simply jolly japes by a youngster," said Guazzini. "He had too much to drink, came back to his hotel and fell over the table in his room. He has now gone on holiday to the French West Indies."

Bastareaud had been out on Saturday night after his side's second Test defeat to the All Blacks. He was an unused replacement in that 14-10 loss.

Bastareaud, who suffered a suspected broken eye socket and needed stitches to facial cuts, misses this weekend's Test against Australia.

Size=everything

what a bastareaud.

thomond2006

C'est incroyable!! :D:D

toomevara

What!!!! For Real? Oh ferfecksakes.....now I have to apologise for badmouthing NZ supporters...I hereby wish to apologise to all and sundry for doing so. I'm an even bigger plonker than I previously suspected I was.....

Bastareud, you great big hairy french ball bag....!!!sigh

thomond2006

All of us who said Kiwi's were all sh1tes look like right eejits now.

Lads, Ruggiebear was right! :o

uberwolf

thomond2006 wrote: »

Lads, Ruggiebear was right!

never in question. Mods are omnipotent.

thomond2006

uberwolf wrote: »

never in question. Mods are omnipotent.

:rolleyes:.

It would make sense to make me a mod so.

Chucky the tree

uberwolf wrote: »

never in question. Mods are impotent.

It look better this way. :pac:

bleg

jaaz, all the french are the same. i have never met a frenchman that acted any differently:o

CJhaughey

He should be prosecuted for wasting police time.

anonymous_joe

Je pense qu'il est dans la merde maintenant.

OldJay

thomond2006 wrote: »

All of us who said Kiwi's were all sh1tes look like right eejits now

Some of the comments in that thread were a blinkered disgrace.

chupacabra

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Je pense qu'il est dans la merde maintenant.

Oui, il ne seront jamais les bienvenus en Nouvelle-Zélande jamais. La prochaine fois, il remonte, il sera certainement de couteau dans l'oeil!

Stealdo

CJhaughey wrote: »

He should be prosecuted for wasting police time.

Why's that now? Because he refused to make a report to the police or involve them in the incident in any way?


Lads - he's a 20 year old kid who made a mistake, had too much to drink - split his face on a desk or some such in the hotel room, panicked and told the French mgt that he was beaten up on the way home. He was probably still drunk when he made it up and seemed like a good idea at the time and didn't think anyone would make a big deal out of it. In fairness to him he never wasted police time or tried to have it taken any further and seems to have owned up as soon as he was out of NZ which was probably the soonest it was smart to do it.

thomond2006

chupacabra wrote: »

Oui, il ne seront jamais les bienvenus en Nouvelle-Zélande jamais. La prochaine fois, il remonte, il sera certainement de couteau dans l'oeil!

Les garcons, ce site n'est pas francais. :D

greendom

thomond2006 wrote: »

Les garcons, ce site n'est pas francais. :D

Oui, en fait c'est anti-francais

marco_polo

thomond2006 wrote: »

All of us who said Kiwi's were all sh1tes look like right eejits now.

Lads, Ruggiebear was right! :o

I'm not buying a word of it. Not content with beating him to a pulp, those dastardly Kiwis have intimidated him into terrified silence. :eek:



* Or he could just be a plonker.

toomevara

]Oui, en fait c'est anti-francais

Oui, il ne seront jamais les bienvenus en Nouvelle-Zélande jamais. La prochaine fois, il remonte, il sera certainement de couteau dans l'oeil!

Les garcons, ce site n'est pas francais

Ah yes mes amis, If ah maght tek ziz upportunite to show of ma Francais alzo at ze expense of zee sillee pigz on 'ere....ho, ho , ho zut alors....

French forum Thataway fellahs....

chupacabra

toomevara wrote: »

Ah yes mes amis, If ah maght tek ziz upportunite to show of ma Francais alzo at ze expense of zee sillee pigz on 'ere....ho, ho , ho zut alors....

French forum Thataway fellahs....

Ok. Sien as die reeks is gespeel in suid-afrika, van nou af ons alleen praat afrikaans. POES!

Amabokke

Requiem4adream wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/8112028.stm


France centre Mathieu Bastareaud has admitted to lying after claiming he was forced to leave the tour of New Zealand after being attacked in Wellington.

Bastareaud originally said he was set upon by four or five people outside his hotel, but now claims he fell over a table in his hotel room.

New Zealand's Prime Minister, John Key, was moved to apologise after news of the attack surfaced on Sunday.

"I owe the truth to everybody," said the 20-year-old Stade Francais star.

"On Saturday evening, I returned to the hotel after having drunk too much. I fell in my bedroom and scarred my cheekbone on the table in the room.

"I was ashamed and panicked and I thought I would be sent packing by the team management.

"I recounted the original story because I thought it would be believed, but given the coverage it has subsequently received I thought it would be better to tell the truth."

Bastareaud added that he had not wanted to upset his family, who are deeply religious.

"I did not want my family to be ashamed," he said. "I panicked and I dug myself deeper into a hole.

"I would like to apologise to the New Zealand Federation, to the city of Wellington, to the French players, the coaching staff, my team, my friends and all of those who were part of the story."

Stade Francais owner Max Guazzini also issued a statement saying the incident was youthful misadventure.

"It was simply jolly japes by a youngster," said Guazzini. "He had too much to drink, came back to his hotel and fell over the table in his room. He has now gone on holiday to the French West Indies."

Bastareaud had been out on Saturday night after his side's second Test defeat to the All Blacks. He was an unused replacement in that 14-10 loss.

Bastareaud, who suffered a suspected broken eye socket and needed stitches to facial cuts, misses this weekend's Test against Australia.

What a coward......

Amabokke

chupacabra wrote: »

Ok. Sien as die reeks is gespeel in suid-afrika, van nou af ons alleen praat afrikaans. POES!

At least put your Afrikaans words in the right order, I don't understand that sentence. Are you a Soutie from Natal trying to be a boer now?

itsallaboutheL

CJhaughey wrote: »

He should be prosecuted for wasting police time.

Have you seen your username!!!

chupacabra

Amabokke wrote: »

At least put your Afrikaans words in the right order, I don't understand that sentence. Are you a Soutie from Natal trying to be a boer now?

gaan kak n' aap snuuk poes :pac:

yeraulone

I love RTE's pun...

"Lying Bastareaud comes clean"

Crash

I'm kinda tempted to just assume that any posts in a language I don't know is an insult, and therefore bannable. Could be fun.

Amabokke

chupacabra wrote: »

gaan kak n' aap snuuk poes :pac:

Go sh!t a monkey fish fanny ?????

Pinetree Boy

Lets get back to the apologies boys!!

But seriously as one of the arrogant obsessed kiwi thugs who has never shared a friendly beer with the opposition after a game or admitted another side may have been better on the day, apologies are probably too much to hope for from the humble, non-opiniated, fair minded beautiful people who jumped on the hate NZ' s band wagon.

As for the man himself TBH feel a bit for the guy. All do the odd dumb thing when young and where the hell were the team management in all this.

Serious concerns in NZ that the fact looked at by French medical staff, management didn't immediately go to cops and that they packed him off home before he could be interviewed by NZ police suggest management knew it was crap.

marco_polo

I have just read the orignal thread now, I agree it was pretty distasteful stuff.

Having spent 6 weeks in NZ at that start of the year I am firmly of the opnion that Kiwis are amongst be the most genuine, friendly and helpful people you could hope to meet on this Earth.

Trojan

This incident neither changed nor formed my opinion of Kiwis, meeting them took care of that

I disagree with the poster who called him a coward. IMO actually owning up to this is a very brave thing - imagine the pressure to keep quiet, vs the guilt. Fair play young lad, came good in the end.

toomevara

marco_polo wrote: »

I am firmly of the opnion that Kiwis are amongst be the most genuine, friendly and helpful people you could hope to meet on this Earth.

Absolutely agree, but I don't think that was ever the issue...its when the rugby starts that the demons emerge! The closest analogy I can think of is England and football. You know the score..couple of guys you're mates with, seem reasonable rational human beings, and then you make the mistake of accompanying them, in some misguided hands across the barricade gesture,(oh dear) to the local pub for a euro cup or WC match, and they assume an appalling collective identity , which has no bearing to their behaviour/comportment in every day life....the whistle goes, the blinkers come down.

I speak from long personal experience regarding a not insubstantial element of NZRU support...there's no doubt that some of their behaviour come match time (and match time only) is very unlovely indeed. Incidentally, it's also wise to refrain from launching a debate, however well intentioned and measured, regarding the Haka at a barbecue hosted and populated almost entirely by Kiwis,as I once foolishly did...just a heads up there fellahs....;)

But let me hasten to add, the Kiwis as a nation are fab!!

Crash

As an aside, don't try and get them into a conversation about the big "deck" in the back garden. Once they realise you find the pronounciation highly amusing, they tend to get annoyed.

Amabokke

Trojan wrote: »

This incident neither changed nor formed my opinion of Kiwis, meeting them took care of that

I disagree with the poster who called him a coward. IMO actually owning up to this is a very brave thing - imagine the pressure to keep quiet, vs the guilt. Fair play young lad, came good in the end.

You do know that he only owed up because of sheer pressure? The investigation did find that he return unharmed alone at his hotel that evening and asked him to review his answer as there was no evidence. I don't call people usually names but that was pure cowardness not too come forward out of his own or to make up such a ridiculous storie.

d'Oracle

I spent a year and a half in New Zealand.

At the risk of being one of those plonkers who thinks its o.k. to generalise an entire nation, (imo its as bad to call them all great as call them all bad) I really could only think of two or three people who I didn't like/ weren't really nice, friendly, genuine and helpful people.

I stayed mostly in one of the most notorious towns in the country and the people were great. Infact everywhere they were great (bar Auckland, horrible place).

The problem that can arise, as I see it, is people who's only opinion of Kiwis is through rugby related conversations, which is probably as much a reflection on their own weak personalities as of Kiwis.

On Topic, considering the relations between NZ and France, this isn't good.
The rainbow Warrior, nuclear testing in the South Pacific, Knocking the AB's out of the RWC (they paid the damn pomey ref off, bro!!) Sending down a weakened side in the last tour.....now this? Diplomatic incident.

One thing that did stand out from my year and a half.
For a "Rugby Mad" country, Kiwis appeared to me to be the WORST rugby fans. Only talk rugby when the AB's loose, S14 matches (bar Hamilton) never full......if I had ten dollars for everytime somebody said "theres too much rugby on mate" I would have bought a better car.

Trojan

Amabokke wrote: »

You do know that he only owed up because of sheer pressure? The investigation did find that he return unharmed alone at his hotel that evening and asked him to review his answer as there was no evidence. I don't call people usually names but that was pure cowardness not too come forward out of his own or to make up such a ridiculous storie.

Ah. No, I didn't know that.

I still need to run it through my "if I was young, stupid and drunk, what would I have done" filter, and I can't castigate the fellow too much because I think I might just have.

Now I'm older and wiser of course I wouldn't do such a thing, and I'm sure none of you guys would either, eh?

Requiem4adream

Trojan wrote: »

Ah. No, I didn't know that.

I still need to run it through my "if I was young, stupid and drunk, what would I have done" filter, and I can't castigate the fellow too much because I think I might just have.

Now I'm older and wiser of course I wouldn't do such a thing, and I'm sure none of you guys would either, eh?

There's shades of Steven Ireland Grannygate going on here. To be honest, the young french centre is also a cousin of another plonker in William Gallas, might run in the family somewhat

I wouldn't be too harsh on him though, probably still hammered when he came up with the excuse and it spiralled outta control. He coulda stuck to his guns despite the lack of evidence and let the mud stick but he had the guts to come out and admit it was a load of Betty Swollocks.

Crash

Trojan wrote: »

Ah. No, I didn't know that.

I still need to run it through my "if I was young, stupid and drunk, what would I have done" filter, and I can't castigate the fellow too much because I think I might just have.

Now I'm older and wiser of course I wouldn't do such a thing, and I'm sure none of you guys would either, eh?

I fell on it.

Aidric

A big fat lol @ all those bigots who posted uninformed bile on that previous thread. There was always something fishy when the guy didn't want to press charges.

Orizio

Apparently he attempted to commit suicide.

Pinetree Boy

I wouldn't be too harsh on him though, probably still hammered when he came up with the excuse and it spiralled outta control. He coulda stuck to his guns despite the lack of evidence and let the mud stick but he had the guts to come out and admit it was a load of Betty Swollocks.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately there was not simply a lack of evidence. There was video fortage discovered of him returning to his hotel in the small hours unhurt. He only put his hand up when it the NZ police made it clear to him that they had seen the footage and din't believe him.

Digifriendly

Read on teletext today that he has been admitted to hospital for pyschiatric treatment.