Importing a knife form the U.S.

Über Micro PCs

Hi all.
I want to buy a knife off eBay but given the new ridiculous rules I can only buy from the US.
Do you think there will be any problems with customs?
Blade length: is 4.84"
Specifically the knife is the Gerber LMF II.
I am well past 18 and enjoy camping,fishing etc in the summer(gives me a break from being a computer nerd the rest of the year) that is why I want the knife.

Thanks for any advice.

foxshooter243

Über Micro PCs wrote: »

Hi all.
I want to buy a knife off eBay but given the new ridiculous rules I can only buy from the US.
Do you think there will be any problems with customs?
Blade length: is 4.84"
Specifically the knife is the Gerber LMF II.
I am well past 18 and enjoy camping,fishing etc in the summer(gives me a break from being a computer nerd the rest of the year) that is why I want the knife.

Thanks for any advice.

Shouldnt be, I purchased a new deer hunting knife from the states a few months back..no problems

Über Micro PCs

Thanks foxshooter243 for the quick reply.
Did the packaging the knife came in say what it contained?

gofaster_s13

The Gerber LMF's are not a nice knife with a very poor handle design witha rubber grip thats prone to coming away from the Nylon handle, Have you considered the Ontario Rat 5 series of knives, D2 tool steel blades:cool: and a very well shaped handle, all round a far superior tool, a knife for life:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ONTARIO-RAT-5-FIXED-BLADE-KNIFE-CAMPING-SURVIVAL-D2_W0QQitemZ120436798994QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0a97b612&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

davymoore

Buy an Irish knife and avoid all the hassle

foxshooter243

Über Micro PCs wrote: »

Thanks foxshooter243 for the quick reply.
Did the packaging the knife came in say what it contained?

Yep, bought it from Bass Pro and the invoice was on the outside of the parcel, some companies wont ship but Bass Pro will;)

Grizzly 45

No problem whatsoever on buying knives in the USA.Most all companies will ship to Europe.
Bar ASFIK automatic knives[fllick knives].Reserved for US military personel and LE.

Über Micro PCs

Thank you all for your replies.
gofaster_s13 I read and watched reviews for a few hours before I decided on which knife I would buy,I decided on the Gerber.I am sure both knives have their good and bad points that could be argued about all day.

davymoore I didnt even know Ireland had a repuation for making knives and knew of no sources to buy them.

foxshooter243 Thank you once again for your reply,the knife has been ordered.

Grizzly 45 Yes most will ship to Europe that wasnt really the problem,getting it through customs was.

Anyway thank you all again for you replies.:)

Grizzly 45

How much duty did they hit you for?Shouldnt be much if it was under 100 USD.

Über Micro PCs

Grizzly 45 I wont know that until it arrives and the postman gives me the good news.
I remember they stung me for 60 odd euro last year but that was for a fancy tent costing 100s

Grizzly 45

Qick check around the net $100 /$150 seems to be the price.
Should be 10/20 euros at most,if any.:)

foxshooter243

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

How much duty did they hit you for?Shouldnt be much if it was under 100 USD.

It depends on your luck there grizzly, however if your parcel comes through normal post then chances are it will get through "unmolested":D,
however courier companies can be more difficult .

Über Micro PCs

Cheers mate,saved me the hassle of checking.
Total cost with shipping was $110,the knife I got for $71

The knife will be posted by standard USPS foxshooter243 so maybe I wont have to pay anything at all.

foxshooter243

Über Micro PCs wrote: »

Cheers mate,saved me the hassle of checking.
Total cost with shipping was $110,the knife I got for $71

The knife will be posted by standard USPS foxshooter243 so maybe I wont have to pay anything at all.

Thats the best route;)..good luck with the purchase!

riflehunter77

Have imported from Big Bass Pro Shop with no problems, Cabelas have restrictions not sure if its on all knifes doe.

kakashka

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Qick check around the net $100 /$150 seems to be the price.
Should be 10/20 euros at most,if any.:)

I think no charge on goods up to value of something like 150e
It's recorded and can be charged(vat) after recieving several items under the allowance but together totaling more than allowance
my experience,open to correction

Über Micro PCs

Much delayed update.
The clown that was to post it said the post office had been holding it for 2 weeks because the parcel had no postcode...
I suspect it was himself that was at fault but what can you do?
Anyway the knife has arrived,was not delayed at customs and I didnt have to pay an duty.
Thanks all.

kay 9

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

No problem whatsoever on buying knives in the USA.Most all companies will ship to Europe.
Bar ASFIK automatic knives[fllick knives].Reserved for US military personel and LE.

Hi Grizzly, are automatic knives legal in Ireland and if so is there anyway of importing them? Just thought it be nice to have for novelty, I had one as a kid b4 but it was some lucky bag type of a thing:D Cheers...not that they're much use for skinning bunnies or the likes:)

4gun

ever need a good quality knife then use this crowd every thing is explained,especially the quality of the steel used in the knife and the hardness ect.http://www.agrussell.com

meathstevie

If at all possible check if you can select US post registered mail as method of delivery. Every inch as good as a courrier company if not better and miles cheaper.

Grizzly 45

kay 9 wrote: »

Hi Grizzly, are automatic knives legal in Ireland and if so is there anyway of importing them? Just thought it be nice to have for novelty, I had one as a kid b4 but it was some lucky bag type of a thing:D Cheers...not that they're much use for skinning bunnies or the likes:)

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!:mad:They have been illegal here since God knows when unoffically and are offically illegal since 1992.!Get caught with one,,and you are looking at a spot of time as a guest of the Nation!

bigred

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!:mad:They have been illegal here since God knows when unoffically and are offically illegal since 1992.!Get caught with one,,and you are looking at a spot of time as a guest of the Nation!

What about assisted openers??

J.R.

Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, 1990


9 1990 12

PART III OFFENSIVE WEAPONS



Possession of knives and other articles.
9.—(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), where a person has with him in any public place any knife or any other article which has a blade or which is sharply pointed, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(2) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place.

(3) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (2), it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that he had the article with him for use at work or for a recreational purpose.

(4) Where a person, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the onus of proving which shall lie on him), has with him in any public place—

( a ) any flick-knife, or

( b ) any other article whatsoever made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person,

he shall be guilty of an offence.

(5) Where a person has with him in any public place any article intended by him unlawfully to cause injury to, incapacitate or intimidate any person either in a particular eventuality or otherwise, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(6) In a prosecution for an offence under subsection (5), it shall not be necessary for the prosecution to allege or prove that the intent to cause injury, incapacitate or intimidate was intent to cause injury to, incapacitate or intimidate a particular person; and if, having regard to all the circumstances (including the type of the article alleged to have been intended to cause injury, incapacitate or intimidate, the time of the day or night, and the place), the court (or the jury as the case may be) thinks it reasonable to do so, it may regard possession of the article as sufficient evidence of intent in the absence of any adequate explanation by the accused.

( 7 ) ( a ) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or to both.

( b ) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (4) or (5) shall be liable—

(i) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or to both, or

(ii) on conviction on indictment, to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.


(8) In this section "public place" includes any highway and any other premises or place to which at the material time the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise, and includes any club premises and any train, vessel or vehicle used for the carriage of persons for reward.

(9) In this section "flick-knife" means a knife—

( a ) which has a blade which opens when hand pressure is applied to a button, spring, lever or other device in or attached to the handle, or

( b ) which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and when released is locked in an open position by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0012/sec0009.html#zza12y1990s9

bigred

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!:mad:They have been illegal here since God knows when unoffically and are offically illegal since 1992.!Get caught with one,,and you are looking at a spot of time as a guest of the Nation!

I don't see it spelled out in the legislation.. seems you can have pretty much anything once you have 'reasonable excuse'.. or keep it in private, i.e. at home. Is there another act that contradicts the one above??

meathstevie

In essence what the law says is that you will not carry any blades, knives, sharpened screwdrivers etc etc on you unless you have to for your job or for recreational purposes or on other lawful authority; for example a soldier on exercise in a public place carrying an issue knife.

In simple terms; you have an 8 inch hunting knife on your belt while deerstalking : hunky dory. You have the same knife concealed on you at night in a club : you're a scumbag and deserve to get the book thrown at you.

bigred

meathstevie wrote: »

In simple terms; you have an 8 inch hunting knife on your belt while deerstalking : hunky dory. You have the same knife concealed on you at night in a club : you're a scumbag and deserve to get the book thrown at you.

Agreed, that was my interpretation too.

ghostmantra

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!:mad:They have been illegal here since God knows when unoffically and are offically illegal since 1992.!Get caught with one,,and you are looking at a spot of time as a guest of the Nation!

Grizzly, you are delusional - everybody knows, in this country you would have to be caught with blood on your hands, standing over a dead body in order to get any time....... Unfortunately that is the way it is in this country

mac80

There is a brilliant Bass Pro store in Orlando if you know anyone headin over there on holidays.
I spent hours, probably a full day in it on my honeymoon
It has everything you could imagine at a fraction of the price

mac

Dusty87

mac80 wrote: »

a full day in it on my honeymoon

How rosemantic lol

Grizzly 45

ghostmantra wrote: »

Grizzly, you are delusional - everybody knows, in this country you would have to be caught with blood on your hands, standing over a dead body in order to get any time....... Unfortunately that is the way it is in this country

But why play more into the antis hands??
Gunowner found with deadly switchblade!!Is headlines we can do without.
Maybe,but if you want to risk it by buying and carrying an absolutely crap knife that only got anywhere because of "hoodlum movies" of the 1950s or you are an aging Teddy boy and is about as much use for hunting or fishing,well please go ahead...I'm sure your new extra special "boy"friend in the "Joy" called "Bubba" will be most intrested....:pac:
To be sure,the more modern ones are good quality devices,but you just will not get in the US,without proving you are military personel or LEO,that requires paperwork.
If you want a one handed opener get an assisted opening knife.They are not illegal here and just as quick as a switchblade,with abit of practise ,less maintenence and better quality.

geranimojess

Über Micro PCs wrote: »

Hi all.
I want to buy a knife off eBay but given the new ridiculous rules I can only buy from the US.
Do you think there will be any problems with customs?
Blade length: is 4.84"
Specifically the knife is the Gerber LMF II.
I am well past 18 and enjoy camping,fishing etc in the summer(gives me a break from being a computer nerd the rest of the year) that is why I want the knife.

Thanks for any advice.

I collect American Indian Artifacts and some years ago I took delivery of a Tomohawk,a Spear Head and a Knife.but not before I was asked to call into the GPO of the County I lived in at the time.when I was able to prove my intentions for their use [Display Purposes] they were handed over to me without any charges incurred in fact the Post Office were extremely nice and courtious about it. But times have now changed unfortunatly for the worst and understandibly I doubt if you will be afforded the treatment I was.Good luck anyway.

geranimojess

ghostmantra wrote: »

Grizzly, you are delusional - everybody knows, in this country you would have to be caught with blood on your hands, standing over a dead body in order to get any time....... Unfortunately that is the way it is in this country

Even then you have a line of "Goody Two Shoes" literally queuing up to defend this poor unfortunate "Scumbag" who had a miserable upbringing ranging from the local PP giving a glowing reference to the Politician asking for leniency.would any of them do that for you if you fell on hard times and fell into Debt,not on your nelly.

ghostmantra

yes i totality agree with you, thats what my first post was going to be about but was side tracked (she who must be obeyed):(

Grizzly 45

geranimojess wrote: »

Even then you have a line of "Goody Two Shoes" literally queuing up to defend this poor unfortunate "Scumbag" who had a miserable upbringing ranging from the local PP giving a glowing reference to the Politician asking for leniency.would any of them do that for you if you fell on hard times and fell into Debt,not on your nelly.

Fact! However do you think one of those people who have the intellect of a small soap dish would be up to importing a switchblade??When they can spend a Euro or three or steal down in the local Euro shop a fine selection of cheapo kitchen blades that will do a much better job on somone than a flick knife??Yet it is always the "Rambo knives" we hear about in our biased media,not the nicked 5quid jobs.

4gun

knives are for amatures if your a real thug nowadays you carry a gun,
then your a real gangsta and you can put a cap in his ass :cool:

shane102009

I am thinking of importing an ontario rat 1 knife from america for everyday use (cutting boxes, opening letters,cutting cable ties and bushcraft (uses like wood carving, whittling etc.) the problem is that this knife model has a 3 and 1/4 inch blade. does anyone know whether this will be let through to me without confiscation? I have no intentions of using this blade to harm another person whatsoever. fishing tasks may also be part of this knife's role. thankyou.

shane102009

shane102009 wrote: »

I am thinking of importing an ontario rat 1 knife from america for everyday use (cutting boxes, opening letters,cutting cable ties and bushcraft (uses like wood carving, whittling etc.) the problem is that this knife model has a 3 and 1/4 inch blade. does anyone know whether this will be let through to me without confiscation? I have no intentions of using this blade to harm another person whatsoever. fishing tasks may also be part of this knife's role. thankyou.

Provided it is not on the offensive weapons list (switchblades, balisongs etc) then you can import any knife you want. Make sure you read the list.

You may be liable for importy duty depending on the value.

If you did not know it already, importing is one thing, carrying is completely different. You cannot carry any knife in public. Unlike the UK there is no clause regarding blade length or non-locking mechanism etc.

shane102009

Thankyou for the quick reply and quality advice reagarding the cost on duty for the price of the knife confused me do, this knife goes for around $27 which is around €20 I think, do you know what the tax/importing cost would be on this model? Thanks again

shane102009

shane102009 wrote: »

Thankyou for the quick reply and quality advice reagarding the cost on duty for the price of the knife confused me do, this knife goes for around $27 which is around €20 I think, do you know what the tax/importing cost would be on this model? Thanks again

I think €20 would get away without any charges due. Read section 3C

http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html

Note that the value is based on the item price + postage. So if postage was a tenner your item would be valued at €30.

Hunterjohnb

Über Micro PCs wrote: »

Much delayed update.
The clown that was to post it said the post office had been holding it for 2 weeks because the parcel had no postcode...
I suspect it was himself that was at fault but what can you do?
Anyway the knife has arrived,was not delayed at customs and I didnt have to pay an duty.
Thanks all.

UM, now that you have had plenty of time to play with it , what are your impressions of your knife?