Bringing airsoft stuff back from wales

bluestripe93

I'm going to wales on holiday next week and i want to know if i buy things over there like parts and accessories (no guns) will i be able to bring them back to Ireland because they usually check the car at the ferry port,
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Would i be able to buy a gun whats all this about VCRA and twotone what does it mean

and is they any airsoft shops near Gwynedd

Leftyflip

You should be able to no problem, if you want to buy an airsoft gun then it would be two-tone as you don't have a VCRA or UKARA license (not sure what it is), don't know about any shops near there.

Puding

with out a ukara number you could only buy rif that are ukara compliant e.g to the 2 tone things you see on the uk websites, accessorys and parts should be fine, if its legal in the republic then your fine, i would simply keep the recipt

Masada

Your not required to declare it it since its only a toy, as far as I'm aware.

If you do declare it then you'll have to wait for the harbour cops to arrive and inspect it. they are usually sound about it and know what their doing, but you might be waiting quite a while for them and the ship wont wait for you.. as lemming and ozcam found out last trip.
i personally would just pack it away, unloaded of course and board the ship perfectly legally without drawing any attention to it. if your unlucky enough to get someone who doesnt know about them on declaring it, you might find it more hassle and not worth the effort.

Beast ASI

VCRA doesn't affect RIF's so no need to worry about that.

All parts and accessories are fine on the UK end.

bluestripe93

ok then so your saying i can get a two tone gun with no licence/registration and put it in the case and say nothing and it will be ok,just something small like a pistol or a submachine gun, would black spray paint cover up the green or blue, what about the pryo stuff are we aloud that in ireland ???,
if anyone's got an issue of airsoft international magazine on the back cover the ad for airsoft world you will know what im talking about

Leftyflip

bluestripe93 wrote: »

ok then so your saying i can get a two tone gun with no licence/registration and put it in the case and say nothing and it will be ok,just something small like a pistol or a submachine gun, would black spray paint cover up the green or blue, what about the pryo stuff are we allowed that in ireland ???,
if anyone's got an issue of airsoft international magazine on the back cover the ad for airsoft world you will know what im talking about

Yes you can, no pyro's though, they are illegal as far as I know.
They spraypaint would cover it up, but you would be better sanding it off and then spraying it, just make sure its under 328fps.

Puding

phyros are ilegal in ireland so bringing them thought the port would not be a good idea,

Firekitten

From the uk...

Well, Airsoft shops in Wales... none that i know of, and only a handful of sites...

Guns... If its a RIF, not a chance, in the uk, it requires a vcra defense to purchace, NOT UKARA. NOT BLOODY UKARA... that is only one option in prooving one is a skirmisher...
twotones... if over 18, go for it.
Acessories and parts... not an issue.

When coming back on the ferry i suggest if its parts... dont bother, but any guns id declare, its a bit of a headache waiting and getting checked, but its fairly swift as Lemming tells me. only an extra 10 minutes, which is acountable for by arriving early.

whydave

Puding wrote: »

phyros are ilegal in ireland so bringing them thought the port would not be a good idea,

and you cann't use them on sites in the Republic !

Puding

well as htra does it is possible of sites to use them and make them avalailiable under s controlled enviroment but that differant, bringing them in yourself its easyer just to say thats a no no

i know vcra was the bill that made the specific defence needed, and ukara was set up to help people provide and prove this defence, i normal say you need the ukara number to buy and keep it simple as all the retailors seem ot ask for this (seem to be one of the problems of the current system in the uk, its very retailor central with them having all the power)

Rooky1

AEG's are toys! But they do look real.
You are always meant to declare it when ravelling on the ferry.

As long as you can show the shop that you are not a resident of the UK, you can buy any AEG you want too.
You can show them your passport, driving licence and an up to date bill.
With matching home addresses on them.

bluestripe93

is a RIF a replica imitation firearm what do you mean tell them your not a uk resident would they sell me a black one or does it have to be a two tone gun

Spetzcong

bluestripe93 wrote: »

is a RIF a replica imitation firearm what do you mean tell them your not a uk resident would they sell me a black one or does it have to be a two tone gun

tried it, and no. If they have an online store they might let you play with stuff in store and then place an online order with them from the store. They can't let you walk out the door with it unless you prove you're a skirmisher though, posting to a foreign address is fine. I even had the issue of take aim with my mugshot in the Contractor team issue, and no joy, the store assistant said he believed I was a skirmisher and if the boss was around he might have sold non two-tone stuff to me, but yerman didn't have the authority.

Why not try getting up to Predator a few times and get yerself a UKARA number, I spend enough time in the UK that I'm thinking of doing that, mind you you won't save much money buying stuff over there.

Spetzcong

Puding wrote: »

well as htra does it is possible of sites to use them and make them avalailiable under s controlled enviroment but that differant, bringing them in yourself its easyer just to say thats a no no

Yeah but Paul has to supply them to you and you are only allowed to have them while on the site, once you leave the site they become very illegal for you to have.

Rooky1

bluestripe93 wrote: »

is a RIF a replica imitation firearm what do you mean tell them your not a uk resident would they sell me a black one or does it have to be a two tone gun

Maybe others have had a more negative response, but I have personally bought AEG's (not two tone) over the counter from the UK without any problems.
And then flown back to Ireland with them. (Declaring them of course).
I also showed the shop my return ticket to Ireland.
You could always just order online and have it delivered to your door!

Puding

as far as im aware if shops in the uk are going that it would be agaist the law ? there may be some small print you would have to talk to the uk mainland lot about that

bluestripe93

so if i tell them i don't live in the uk would they sell me one because they know i will be bringing it back to Ireland or is it just twotone

Rooky1

bluestripe93 wrote: »

so if i tell them i don't live in the uk would they sell me one because they know i will be bringing it back to Ireland or is it just twotone

As mentioned earlier I have done this myself for a normal AEG - NOT 2tone!
I showed my return ticket, driving licence and a home addressed bill that I had in the car.

Or just buy online, or if it is all too much hassle buy a 2 tone.

OzCam

If you just buy parts, you're fine. Put them in your luggage. They're just parts.

If you buy anything that looks like a gun and don't declare it, you risk causing an Armed Response incident, big fines, jail time or worse. It probably wouldn't happen, but that's the risk you run. If in doubt, declare it. It only takes a minute, and the Police at both Holyhead and Fishguard are absolutely fine. Answer the standard questions... who are you, where are you coming from, where are you going, what's your business... Show ID, show a receipt, easy peasy. If it's a two-tone, the cops will probably just wave you on through.

Transporting Pyros explosives without the proper licenses can get you a 10 grand fine. Don't even think about it.

The reason HRTA can use pyros is that Paul spent 18 months getting the paperwork sorted first.