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'Zimmer gang' faces kidnap and torture rap

  • 24-06-2009 9:20am
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    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Oldies get their revenge :pac:
    A group of pensioners has been accused of kidnapping and torturing a financial adviser who lost over €2m of their savings.

    The pensioners, nicknamed the "Geritol Gang" by police after an arthritis drug, face up to 15 years in jail if found guilty of subjecting German-American James Amburn to the alleged four-day ordeal.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Fair play to them! Harney and Cowen should be kidknapped and tortured like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    Water boarding him with their colostomy bags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Jesus! That's pretty insane. If they tortured him and threatened to kill him they deserve whatever they get.

    "Two of them are said to have hit him with a Zimmer frame outside his home in Speyer"

    lol'd at that part


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I hope the enjoy the rest of their lives in prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Oldies get their revenge :pac:



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    That's fairly fucking horrible.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Revenge is the only way! i hope they get away with it!!!

    RESPECT to the vigilante blue rinse brigade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Pop's Diner


    Ladies and gentlemen, what you are seeing is a total disregard for the things Germany stand for. Torture, militant/violent reaction to loss of wealth & burning of human flesh. Are these the things we think of when we think of the Germans?

    (lock em up).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    The fukcer got what he deserved, 2m he lost of their money, still he wimpered "I'll sell my swiss stocks and repay you", the cnut had the money tucked away for himself. Maybe the poor fukcers forgot their glasses in the heat of the moment and could'nt see what the fukc he was writing on his fax.
    I can imagine the nerd getting smacked around with zimmer frames, he probably had to help his kidnappers into the car and fukc the zimmers in the boot for them, otherwise how can two men on zimmer frames possibly bundle the twat into the car?.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    He got away lightly if you ask me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    uprising wrote: »
    The fukcer got what he deserved, 2m he lost of their money, still he wimpered "I'll sell my swiss stocks and repay you", the cnut had the money tucked away for himself. Maybe the poor fukcers forgot their glasses in the heat of the moment and could'nt see what the fukc he was writing on his fax.
    I can imagine the nerd getting smacked around with zimmer frames, he probably had to help his kidnappers into the car and fukc the zimmers in the boot for them, otherwise how can two men on zimmer frames possibly bundle the twat into the car?.

    Don't hold back tell us how you really feel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    uprising wrote: »
    The fukcer got what he deserved, 2m he lost of their money, still he wimpered "I'll sell my swiss stocks and repay you", the cnut had the money tucked away for himself. Maybe the poor fukcers forgot their glasses in the heat of the moment and could'nt see what the fukc he was writing on his fax.
    I can imagine the nerd getting smacked around with zimmer frames, he probably had to help his kidnappers into the car and fukc the zimmers in the boot for them, otherwise how can two men on zimmer frames possibly bundle the twat into the car?.

    hahaha... Good stuff!
    You should help co-write an episode of Murder She Wrote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭deco05ie


    He got away lightly if you ask me
    Why exactly?

    Most investments are gambles, this one didn't pay off so tough **** to them. They were too lazy to invest there own money so paid someone else to do it, so again tough **** to them.

    You can bitch and moan when you lose money in a gamble but you can't go around tying people up and torturing them FFS.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    deco05ie wrote: »
    Why exactly?

    Most investments are gambles, this one didn't pay off so tough **** to them. They were too lazy to invest there own money so paid someone else to do it, so again tough **** to them.

    You can bitch and moan when you lose money in a gamble but you can't go around tying people up and torturing them FFS.

    For them to go that far, he probably scammed them. He was prob a con artist.
    It'll teach him to give better financial advice next time. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    For them to go that far, he probably scammed them. He was prob a con artist.
    It'll teach him to give better financial advice next time. :D

    next time some one asks him what a Tracker is he wont be so smart!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,472 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Armed commandos stormed the house on Saturday

    Sounds like it would make a great movie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    Sounds like it would make a great movie

    rambo would be about the same age as the "bad" guys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Sounds like it would make a great movie
    The Geritol Gang - revenge of the zimmer brigade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    deco05ie wrote: »
    but you can't go around tying people up and torturing them FFS.

    Well you can,its just frowned upon;)

    I can just imagine that the old people were like Clint eastwood in Gran Torino.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    uprising wrote: »
    The fukcer got what he deserved, 2m he lost of their money, still he wimpered "I'll sell my swiss stocks and repay you", the cnut had the money tucked away for himself. Maybe the poor fukcers forgot their glasses in the heat of the moment and could'nt see what the fukc he was writing on his fax.

    Nobody deserves to be tortured like that. Come off it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    For them to go that far, they were over entitled cretins that didn't understand that there is no such thing as a safe investment

    Fixed your post for you, now with added reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Does this work down the bookies'...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    trephanation would be too good for him

    i fixed your post too, you can thank me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    i fixed your post to, you can thank me.

    You're doing it wrong


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Fixed your post for you, now with added reality.

    You didnt fix it properly, you left out a full stop.

    More Reality, con artists exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    i want to wrap Mary Harney in bubble wrap and pop her all night long!

    you were right, so i fixed for you! TAADAA!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    You didnt fix it properly, you left out a full stop.

    More Reality, con artists exist.

    Even if the guy in question was (and i fucking dare you to prove it), it doesn't warrent torture and kidnapping.

    Stop having terrible opinions and grow up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Well you can,its just frowned upon;)

    I can just imagine that the old people were like Clint eastwood in Gran Torino.

    What a super movie, maybe he inspired them!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    you were right, so i fixed for you! TAADAA!

    LOL:pac::pac::pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Even if the guy in question was (and i fucking dare you to prove it), it doesn't warrent torture and kidnapping.

    You have realistic opinions and i'm wrong.

    Now now language Timothy!!!

    You dare me, oooh i love dares, i double dare you to prove he wasnt a scam artist!

    I fixed your quote for you too btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    No one can prove anything if he was a con/scam artist until the the court case starts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Joycey


    Stop having terrible opinions and grow up.

    I cant see him ever getting back up after such a callous and hurtful putdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Now now language Timothy!!!

    You dare me, oooh i love dares, i double dare you to prove he wasnt a scam artist!

    I fixed your quote for you too btw.

    You can't prove a negative. You assert he's a con artist, the burden of proof is on you.
    And even if you could prove it, you're still telling us that because the pensioners gambled and lost, it's cool to kidnap and torture someone they think is responsible... yeah your opinions are nothing close to "realistic".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Joycey wrote: »
    I cant see him ever getting back up after such a callous and hurtful putdown.

    it's less of a putdown and more of a prayer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    it's less of a putdown and more of a prayer.

    I prefer the Our father myself. :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    You can't prove a negative. You assert he's a con artist, the burden of proof is on you.
    And even if you could prove it, you're still telling us that because the pensioners gambled and lost, it's cool to kidnap and torture someone they think is responsible... yeah your opinions are nothing close to "realistic".

    Burden of proof LOL, Have you never played dare and double dares before??

    I can imagine you playing spin the bottle hitting everyone with legal jargen. FUN TIMES, LOL

    I'm saying he was prob a scam artist so he probably deserved a good bang of a zimmer frame yeh :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Joycey


    You can't prove a negative. You assert he's a con artist, the burden of proof is on you.
    And even if you could prove it, you're still telling us that because the pensioners gambled and lost, it's cool to kidnap and torture someone they think is responsible... yeah your opinions are nothing close to "realistic".

    Well, if we define a "scam artist" in this case as a stockbroker who does not conduct their business in a legitimate manner, then it is impossible to prove that he does not according to your logic.

    It wrecks my head when people say "you cant prove a negative", any assertion/claim can be turned into a negative and thus made "unprovable". How do you prove something anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Joycey wrote: »
    Well, if we define a "scam artist" in this case as a stockbroker who does not conduct their business in a legitimate manner, then it is impossible to prove that he does not according to your logic.

    Except a scam artist would be someone who deliberately sets out to defraud people. Of course if we start changing definitons, i'm pretty sure we can agree that he's actually made of jam.

    Joycey wrote: »
    It wrecks my head when people say "you cant prove a negative", any assertion/claim can be turned into a negative and thus made "unprovable". How do you prove something anyway?

    You can't prove a negative is a shorthand way of refering to the huge difficulty of gathering evidence to "prove" that something does not exist. It's far easier to prove something does exist.

    For example, i can prove that white swans exist by simply showing you a european swan, however were i to say "no green swans exist" i would have to find every swan in existance and check to see what colour they are.

    things can't be 'turned' into a negative as you say, but the only real way to prove something is to prove it's existance, because asking someone to disprove it is stupid.

    Now, unwreck your head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    I still dont understand how he was made of jam? Or what the swan did on the scam artist?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    Except a scam artist would be someone who deliberately sets out to defraud people. Of course if we start changing definitons, i'm pretty sure we can agree that he's actually made of jam.




    You can't prove a negative is a shorthand way of refering to the huge difficulty of gathering evidence to "prove" that something does not exist. It's far easier to prove something does exist.

    For example, i can prove that white swans exist by simply showing you a european swan, however were i to say "no green swans exist" i would have to find every swan in existance and check to see what colour they are.

    things can't be 'turned' into a negative as you say, but the only real way to prove something is to prove it's existance, because asking someone to disprove it is stupid.

    Now, unwreck your head.

    Are swans made of jam???


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    because asking someone to disprove it is stupid.

    Now, unwreck your head.

    Bringing swans and jam into an argument about a scam artist isnt that bright either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    Bringing swans and jam into an argument about a scam artist isnt that bright either.

    well the swan might be bright...green...and neon.

    We need to bring those cool old german vigilante types over here to regulate the banks!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    well the swan might be bright...green...and neon.

    We need to bring those cool old german vigilante types over here to regulate the banks!

    Yep, if we had a few more zimmer gangs we wuldnt be in the recession we are now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    You can't prove a negative is a shorthand way of refering to the huge difficulty of gathering evidence to "prove" that something does not exist. It's far easier to prove something does exist.

    Question for ya, would it not be as easy to prove swans are not made of jam as it is to prove that swans are made of jam??


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    hahaha... Good stuff!
    You should help co-write an episode of Murder She Wrote.
    rambo would be about the same age as the "bad" guys
    i fixed your post too, you can thank me.
    You didnt fix it properly, you left out a full stop.

    More Reality, con artists exist.
    you were right, so i fixed for you! TAADAA!
    What a super movie, maybe he inspired them!!!
    LOL:pac::pac::pac:
    Now now language Timothy!!!

    You dare me, oooh i love dares, i double dare you to prove he wasnt a scam artist!

    I fixed your quote for you too btw.
    Burden of proof LOL, Have you never played dare and double dares before??

    I can imagine you playing spin the bottle hitting everyone with legal jargen. FUN TIMES, LOL

    I'm saying he was prob a scam artist so he probably deserved a good bang of a zimmer frame yeh :D
    I still dont understand how he was made of jam? Or what the swan did on the scam artist?
    Are swans made of jam???
    Bringing swans and jam into an argument about a scam artist isnt that bright either.
    Question for ya, would it not be as easy to prove swans are not made of jam as it is to prove that swans are made of jam??
    Knoxville. Goddie. This determined tag team trolling nonsense stops now. You have now been banned from this thread due to your consistent asinine thread spoiling. If you post in this thread once more for any reason, even to apologise for the nonsense spewed above you will be banned from After hours. For a good long time. If I find any incidents of similar again on any other AH thread the same ban threat stands.

    For the sake of saving you a couple of minutes finding feedback, here is the thread where you can moan about this:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055599166

    EDIT:
    Actually here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60847091&postcount=79
    I complained on your behalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    I wonder how many of the Armed Commandos they took out before they managed to rescue the hostage :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    always respect your elders, not con them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I just read about this on another site.
    All I can say is: fair play to the elderly :D


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