what is this vocal sound? help

stateofflux

hi...im really trying to get the vocal reverb/delay sound that killing joke used on this song...ive tried everything...but i just end up swamped in reverb...im not sure if its a delay because the repeats are'nt really audible...if anyone can help us out it would be great as i really want to nail this huge vocal sound....

thanks....the song is here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QNibsd-BH4

PaulBrewer

I know the producer, Andy Gill. I'll ask him ...

PaulBrewer

It sounds like something Echoboy would be good at ....

stateofflux

thanks paul...ill give the echoboy a shot...is that andy gill of gang of four fame?

by the way butch vig is doing a q+a session over at the gearslutz forum at the mo....very very interesting.....just register and ask a question if you have any....

regards

kyle

dav nagle

My Guess!

Reverb with a high pre delay
Phaser/flanger of some sort on the vocal
Gritty distortion on the vocal
Delay on the vocal
Harmonizer on vocal
Sounds like his mic is going through some sort of gritty compressed pedal.

This is just a guess I could be way off by a long shot <:)>

woodsdenis

http://www.retrosynth.com/gear/h3000/index.html

An incarnation of this I would guess

dav nagle

woodsdenis wrote: »

http://www.retrosynth.com/gear/h3000/index.html

An incarnation of this I would guess

+1

PaulBrewer

stateofflux wrote: »

thanks paul...ill give the echoboy a shot...is that andy gill of gang of four fame?

Yes, he has a nice studio in Holborn London with a Neve Console. He records in Logic as I recall.

splitrmx

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/Harmonizers/H8000FW.aspx

woodsdenis

splitrmx wrote: »

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/Harmonizers/H8000FW.aspx

Unfortunately I dont think that model wasn't around in 2003. Amazing piece of kit though

stateofflux

thanks for all the help guys...ive just one more question...as i don't have a grand spare to buy an eventide ......any idea what settings on the delay ?, ms, feedback, mix level etc....im a bit of a noob so bear with me...:)

thanks...kyle

PaulBrewer

I just got a 'partial' reply from Andy Gill.

"Vox - all vocals were double tracked and I cut them up so it was very tight , not really sounding doubled . A lot of the ‘fx’ was just pushing jazz to go to ridiculous ends with his voice - exagerating everything , rasping , hissing , cackling , screaming . Just showing the demented basterd in his true colours . I also did a lot of time stretching as an effect. Apart from that , touch of distortion and hi-pass."

I guess he's referring here to the overall approach taken to vocals on that album. There's no mention of the 'echo' fx - though I have asked him to clarify.

stateofflux

really appreciate it that you even asked him....thanks a mill.....if you are talking to him again in the future i'd love to know how he got that killer snare sound on that album.....prob just the grohl animal doing his thang....but still curious....

thanks again

Kyle

PaulBrewer

Good Song !