New to Hunting

cloudymouse

Hi all could anyone point me in the right direction , im living in celbridge and looking for the closest / best hunting club to join. Know security is an isssue so if you like pm me also any advice on first gun to shoot rabbits would be great,
thanks

bunny shooter

Easiest thing is to ask in your local firearms dealers

CZ 452 in .22lr is perfect for bunnies

terminator2

ask pat down in lucan rod and gun

pullandbang

Get in touch with the NARGC and they'll put you in touch with your local club secretary.

Only thing I'll say is don't hold your breath waiting to get in.

westwicklow

pullandbang wrote: »

Get in touch with the NARGC and they'll put you in touch with your local club secretary.

Only thing I'll say is don't hold your breath waiting to get in.

You are right there.... our local gun club shoots over my land and I can't get membership myself!!!

finnlite

westwicklow wrote: »

You are right there.... our local gun club shoots over my land and I can't get membership myself!!!

id be pulling the plug there fairly rapid

bunny shooter

finnlite wrote: »

id be pulling the plug there fairly rapid

Cheeky gits. Quid pro quo You want access I want membership

pullandbang

westwicklow wrote: »

our local gun club shoots over my land and I can't get membership myself!!!

That's just plain daft!:mad:

Any club that I'm in gives automatic membership to a landowner if they want it. Not many take it up, but it's there as an option for them.

I'd be threatening them with pulling the plug if I was you.

westwicklow

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

Hezz700

westwicklow wrote: »

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

Quite true, but it would make you feel better

Personally though, i would'nt stand for that sh1t.

ayapatrick

westwicklow wrote: »

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

is it a big area of land, do they hunt it much?
it doesn't but as bunny said thats pure cheek! get rid!

westwicklow

ayapatrick wrote: »

is it a big area of land, do they hunt it much?
it doesn't but as bunny said thats pure cheek! get rid!

There a couple of hundres acres, lakes, forestry, rivers.... plenty of scope for hunting.

bunny shooter

westwicklow wrote: »

There a couple of hundres acres, lakes, forestry, rivers.... plenty of scope for hunting.

Any bunnies ?

ayapatrick

westwicklow wrote: »

There a couple of hundres acres, lakes, forestry, rivers.... plenty of scope for hunting.

then i would think you would have good case to be a member of the club?;)

gentleman jim

westwicklow wrote: »

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

grow a pair will you man! and pull the plug if you dont get membership!
pure cheek of them!!

ivanthehunter

I would pull the plug!! end off story! Just tell them that they are out until your in. Leave the ball in their court.

Just go around and shoot on their land with direct landowners permission and never look back.

It wasn't me!

ivanthehunter wrote: »

I would pull the plug!! end off story! Just tell them that they are out until your in. Leave the ball in their court.

Just go around and shoot on their land with direct landowners permission and never look back.

Not always possible. Seems a lot of clubs in my area are now securing the sporting rights for themselves. As such, the landowner has no legal authority to grant you permission to shoot. In other cases, landowners are happy with the clubs and won't give out permissions, even if they can.

homerhop

Club's have to approache you every year and get written permission to poster your lands or advertise in the local paper that they have the shooting rights to your lands come shooting season.

kakashka

westwicklow wrote: »

There a couple of hundres acres, lakes, forestry, rivers.... plenty of scope for hunting.

Your land??
Seems a little odd to me,most clubs i know are delighted to have landowner members

westwicklow

Yep, well, I had a big falling out with some of the (townie) committee and they don't approve of me shooting/hunting my own land and worse, actually inviting friends, relations and neighbours in for occasional shooting, none of whom are members.
So it's not just a straight forward situation.

kakashka

westwicklow wrote: »

Yep, well, I had a big falling out with some of the (townie) committee and they don't approve of me shooting/hunting my own land and worse, actually inviting friends, relations and neighbours in for occasional shooting, none of whom are members.
So it's not just a straight forward situation.

Straight forward enough i think ww,if you want a club shooting your land then find another,lots around i'd imagine
I'm sure you'd also find plenty guns here if you wanted
But As IWM said sporting rights may be another matter,i've not heard of a club going over landowner with Sporting rights on farm land but dont doubt i happens,any mention on your title?any mention from this club!!?
Even in worst case scenario with club holding s rights i would doubt very much that you would ever be stopped or prossecuted

westwicklow

No mention of sporting rights.....

let's see what happens at their next committee meeting.... perhaps then I will get off the "approved for membership" list to actual membership!!

Collioure

westwicklow wrote: »

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

What you on about, pull the plug mate they will have you membership before you can blink.

Gunclub never wants to loose land ever...and BTW it's not wrong to pull the plug you should be entitled to membership

deeksofdoom

westwicklow wrote: »

No mention of sporting rights.....

let's see what happens at their next committee meeting.... perhaps then I will get off the "approved for membership" list to actual membership!!

Tell that club to go and **** themselves a buddie of mine is in the neighbouring club he is also a farmer. I regularly shoot in his club with him. Anyone who says anything to him about me would come a cropper. Due to the fact that he would pull the plug on the club shooting his land and possibly his neighbours and relations.

You should put up signs and notify the club that they are no longer welcome on your ground. If you can't be part of the club then they have no permission to be on your land.

A friend of mine has permission to shoot a farm locally. One day a couple of guys who were members of the local club but from the city decided to put him off his permission claiming it was club ground. When they were asked did they even know who owns the land they couldn't answer him. He then rang the farmer and they lost the clubs rights to shoot the land.

I'm sure you would get plenty of permission locally and insurance can be gotten from other sources.

westwicklow

Now that everyone has me thinking, next time I see one of my "pals" from the gun club committee, things will be laid on the line: either I'm in OR you're out!!

kakashka

Probably difficult situation with friends etc also shooting in club?
But do you want to be in this club,sounds like you dont get on with some
Do they have a lot of land under them?ie is it worth your while to join

pullandbang

You could really stir up a hornets nest by sticking up new signs at the entry points to your land - "westwicklow Gun Club. Land Preserved"
Obviously by "westwicklow" I mean you use your own name or your townland/farm name.
That'll sort them out!

westwicklow

New signs? A new club?

Now there's an idea..... ha ha.

Most of the lads are sound in the gun club and there hasn't been any trouble such as the usual problems of leaving gates open etc... that's down to the fishermen, a whole different kettle of fish , or should I refer to them as trawler men :mad: with the nets they use on the lake!!! And the poor auld devils don't even speak the language when I attempt to explain the error of their ways.... God love them!!!

My main problem revolves around 2 or 3 individuals, civil servant townie types!, who need to impose their rules and regulations on me using my land for shooting and hunting. With any luck, they will be voted off the committee and things will be grand! That's why I don't want to withdraw my permission, the land will be there long after we are all gone, as will the shooting, hunting and fishing.

westwicklow

Apology to cloudymouse.... seems this thread has gone off your topic.

pullandbang

westwicklow wrote: »

Apology to cloudymouse.... seems this thread has gone off your topic.

I don't know.....seems there might be a new club opening and he should be the first honorary member:)

westwicklow

Don't be stirring it P&B.... ha ha ha

marko_eire

Guys not sure if this is the correct thread to post the following but its the closest i've found to what i'm about to ask....apologies in advance. I've just moved to east meath and recently purchased a ruger .22 rifle i'm a member of a local club but i cant use my own ammo on the range it only allos subsonic at 12 euro for 50!! (you know where i'm talking about??) anyway i have over 500 round of 22 copper hollow point that i want to blast at targets i got but cant find any land to shoot on.. That is any land that i have permission.. i've asked one farmer who apparently owns a few acres in the area but he said he has sold it all off and refused me to shoot on it.

Anyway if anbody knows of an area in east meath Julianstown area that i can shoot on please let me know many thanks.

westwicklow

What targets Marko and what distance would you have in mind please?

Mellor

cloudymouse wrote: »

Hi all could anyone point me in the right direction , im living in celbridge and looking for the closest / best hunting club to join. Know security is an isssue so if you like pm me also any advice on first gun to shoot rabbits would be great,
thanks

I know its a while ago now, and I hope you weren't holding your breath all this time , but to be honest, you'll be doing well to get in around there. Land is scarce, there are a few clubs, who have lost the bulk of there land so they won't be calling out for new members soon.

westwicklow wrote: »

I've been sooooooo tempted sooooo many times to pull the plug, but 2 wrongs don't make a right!

westwicklow wrote: »

Now that everyone has me thinking, next time I see one of my "pals" from the gun club committee, things will be laid on the line: either I'm in OR you're out!!

It's not a case of two wrongs. Its a case of your rights,
BUT do not make a case of "i'm in or your out". This a horrible approach, its agressive and has that undertone of a threat. This is not the right thing to do.
Instead, simply state that, unfortunately you have no other land to shoot, and you can't afford to share the little hunting you have with a gun club who all have other areas to go to if required.

marko_eire wrote: »

(you know where i'm talking about??) anyway i have over 500 round of 22 copper hollow point that i want to blast at targets i got but cant find any land to shoot on..
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I'm pretty sure that you can't "blast at targets" on any old land. It has to be a club or range now.

marko_eire

Just relized i could have used a better phrase than "blast at Targets" makes me sound a bit gunho The targets i have are standard shoot and C attached to some wood nothing crazy :eek:.

The range would be from 30-50 feet i suppose Maybe 75. Also i wouldn't mind shooting some vermin maybe that would get me access to some land?? its a shame to have bought so many rounds and have them sitting in the safe.There's a few guys i know that plink i think the term is? bottles etc on farm land but there miles away from where i am hence the request for some local land. Thanks for the response !

westwicklow

Good thinking Mellor..... thanks.

Mellor

marko_eire wrote: »

Just relized i could have used a better phrase than "blast at Targets" makes me sound a bit gunho The targets i have are standard shoot and C attached to some wood nothing crazy :eek:.

The range would be from 30-50 feet i suppose Maybe 75. Also i wouldn't mind shooting some vermin maybe that would get me access to some land?? its a shame to have bought so many rounds and have them sitting in the safe.There's a few guys i know that plink i think the term is? bottles etc on farm land but there miles away from where i am hence the request for some local land. Thanks for the response !

It wasn't the blast away part I refered to. Informal target shooting (plinking) is not allowed anymore. I'm open to correction on this, but you are only allowed to shoot rifles off a range for hunting or zeroing.

westwicklow wrote: »

Good thinking Mellor..... thanks.

no problem

marko_eire

Mellor wrote: »

It wasn't the blast away part I refered to. Informal target shooting (plinking) is not allowed anymore. I'm open to correction on this, but you are only allowed to shoot rifles off a range for hunting or zeroing.


no problem

So bunnies and vermin it is then...... I'll ask around again and go out a bit further to some other farmers and see what they say.

Callow Man

Mellor wrote: »

It wasn't the blast away part I refered to. Informal target shooting (plinking) is not allowed anymore. I'm open to correction on this, but you are only allowed to shoot rifles off a range for hunting or zeroing.


Can someone expand on this. I zero my rifle on my fathers land and check it from time to time also.
I might use up to 15 or 20 rounds to do this, so if someone sees me can I be reported for target shooing off a range??

marko_eire

Callow Man wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

It wasn't the blast away part I refered to. Informal target shooting (plinking) is not allowed anymore. I'm open to correction on this, but you are only allowed to shoot rifles off a range for hunting or zeroing.


Can someone expand on this. I zero my rifle on my fathers land and check it from time to time also.
I might use up to 15 or 20 rounds to do this, so if someone sees me can I be reported for target shooing off a range??

I wouldn't worry to much if the land is owned by your father who's to say you weren't shooting rabbits or vermin ????? i'll also have to look into this as i taught you could shoot whatever you wanted ie.bottles cans rats rabbits, once permission was granted for you to shoot on the land does anybody know of a good range that you can use your own ammo on then? the club i'm in will only allow ammo purchased on its range for 12 euro a box of 50 be fired yet a value pack of 525 .22 rounds costs just 22 euro? somebody is making a mint...........:mad:

marko_eire

Slightly off topic but question directed to mellor you seem to have a bit of knowledge regarding firearms. Whats the procedure if trying to import a rifle stock into ireland?? i've been looking at a dragunov choate for 70 pound in the UK and a similar model on ebay US for $45 big saving there. Can a rifle stock be imported from the US/UK without any hassle????

Many thanks

Mark.