Revenge Ireland - Non-existent Closing Date!

thebusoflife

I'm out of work through redundancy for almost two years, and spend countless hours trawling through Websites and any available source I hear of or come across or lay my hands on in my attempts to find work. I've seriously been through the mill!! I must be one of Social Welfare's top fans when they send around their regular little pristine white UP60's to fill in where you've applied to!! :pac:

The whole process is seriously hard-going, I'd nearly go as far as to say it's as hard as a good day's work! :eek: I would love to know who Agencies hire for, surely they are false advertising because they advertise zillions of Job Ads., but whenever I ring them they have nothing on their books at the moment.

Some may laugh but I can seriously see this part of my life as having a ...... well - medium-term effect on my health. How can I look back on this .... It's misery, depression, and everything is dazed and daunting and stressful. I really don't know what I'm going to do.

Fás Community Employment Schemes are highly beneficial, and very positive, but I'm finding them very hard to get into, there are really good Positions in these Schemes, but what I'm seeming to find, is that they are more geared towards people that are out of work 3-5 years or longer, so I'm having no luck with C.E. Schemes.

But to get to the point of the Thread! I applied for a job from a Recruitment Website, and in their Refusal Letter the reason they gave me for not considering me for the Post was that it was after the Closing Date. Fair enough if there was one! But THERE WAS NO Closing Date Whatsoever on the Job Advert! I have a Paper Copy of the Advert and I can get into the Advert online, even though it's now been taken off the Website, but I can still actually go into it, but there's no Closing Date whatsoever indicated on that Advert. :rolleyes::(:rolleyes:

This Website does have "Display Until" Dates and this particular Advert. was intended to be displayed for 4 weeks, a month. If the Employer requests a Closing Date to have Applications in by, they usually clearly put down that Closing Date as well, but this Advert. definitely didn't have a Closing Date listed!

I know it would be best to apply for Ads. straightaway to look good, I didn't reply to this one until a week later as I just happened to be browsing other Counties when I came across it and thought what have I got to lose. So anyways, they actually had intended it to be advertised and applied to for another three weeks, and 5 weeks later, I got their Refusal Letter that I couldn't be considered for the Post as it was after the Closing Date! :eek:

So I got on my little Whizz-kid Laptop and did out a huge "F-Off" Letter to the effect of them kindly issuing another Letter of Correspondence addressed to me cancelling the reason of a non-existent Closing Date, and citing plausible valid reasons not to consider me. And I had my phone to hand expecting them to phone me full of apologies and inviting me in to attend Interview at my convenience! But then it got me thinking, if I let this go or don't publicly show what's happening I'll never forgive myself for simply letting them get away with such a thing!!! So I didn't post my Contribution Letter to them yet, and would just like to get people's thoughts and opinions. Actually I'd love to get a legal opinion on it too.

Like I know Employer's are having to come up with reasons and excuses to fire and not to hire people, but if I'm here applying for Jobs in the vague abysmal vain hope of finding work only to be told I can't be considered because they made up a non-existent Closing Date to apply; That's Just Not On!!! :eek::eek:

How can some-one do that to me?!?!? It's really difficult to keep going as it is without this kind of thing happening .......... :(

Zambia

thebusoflife wrote: »

How can some-one do that to me?!?!? It's really difficult to keep going as it is without this kind of thing happening .......... :(

I would forget them and move on, you can never argue your way into a Job.

Chin up and move forward.

leeroybrown

You weren't considered because they had found enough candidates and closed the application process. I don't see what's wrong with that. You're overreacting. Get over it and focus your energy on something more positive. Most companies are getting so many applications at the moment that they can probably fill their interview panel with decent candidates within a day of posting an advert.

Also, never EVER send an f-off e-mail to an employer, particularly an agency. It is possible to get blacklisted across entire groups of recruitment companies if you're unlucky.

jkmanc1974

leeroybrown wrote: »

You weren't considered because they had found enough candidates and closed the application process. I don't see what's wrong with that. You're overreacting. Get over it and focus your energy on something more positive. Most companies are getting so many applications at the moment that they can probably fill their interview panel with decent candidates within a day of posting an advert.

Also, never EVER send an f-off e-mail to an employer, particularly an agency. It is possible to get blacklisted across entire groups of recruitment companies if you're unlucky.

Agreed ref the last point, especially with the way a good few agencies have several different arms and trading names for the various skillsets(eg CPL/Premier Group etc)

Brgds
Johnny

Mrs OBumble

thebusoflife wrote: »

The whole process is seriously hard-going, I'd nearly go as far as to say it's as hard as a good day's work! :eek: I would love to know who Agencies hire for, surely they are false advertising because they advertise zillions of Job Ads., but whenever I ring them they have nothing on their books at the moment.

Yes, it's hard going, I agree that a day spent job-seeking can be as hard as a day working because (unless you've got a particular sort of job), you get so little positive feedback from it.

Have you got a hobby that you can focus some of your energy on? If you have an hour to look forward to each afternoon, it can make the rest of the day easier. (And I don't mean a hobby like going to the pub either: pick something that involves you in an activity, actually doing or learning something, ideally with other people.)

thebusoflife wrote: »

Some may laugh but I can seriously see this part of my life as having a ...... well - medium-term effect on my health. How can I look back on this .... It's misery, depression, and everything is dazed and daunting and stressful. I really don't know what I'm going to do.

Yup, quite possibly it will have an effect, there's plenty of documentation that it does.

If you're seriously concerned, then I'd strongly suggest talking to your GP about it. It's possible that being moderately down from redundancy/unemployment can have an effect on your brain chemistry, and cause other things. Only a medical professional can really assess whether this is happening, and recommend steps to correct it. (And if your current GP isn't sympathetic, shop around for one who is)


Moving to the point of the thread: you've received some excellent advice here. 'Tis fine to write letters like you have (keeps your letter-writing skills polished, if nothing else) but Do Not Send It!!!

Yes, the way agencies (in particular) work is horrible. But that's the way it is. And TBH, you're lucky to have received a refusal letter at all, the vast majority of companies would simply have binned your application and you'd have heard nothing at all. It's not only agencies either: some companies are advertising vacancies to make it look as though they're busy, but these vacancies never get filled.

Hang in there, the recession won't last forever, there is another job with your name on it.