Halloween 2 Just Got Interesting

One of the few remakes which I really liked was Rob Zombie's Halloween. Rather than simply remake the original Zombie tried to do something diferent. The upcomign sequel has been shaping up quite nicely though till now all the pictures released have been rather bland but now we have this rather odd and pretty awesome looking pic which reminds me a lot of the masks in part 3.



And heres the theatrical poster.

nix

Hummm i wonder is he setting it in the hospital? I'm a big fan of Rob's movies, i just love all of his movies to date. Except maybe house of a thousand corpses, but i wanna rewatch it as it was the first that i seen and it was years ago

Cant wait for this, ive heard little to nothing about it till now.

niallon

Hospital plays a part in the early parts of the story alright but then it adopts somewhat of a Laurie focus. Thank God he's finally started calling it Halloween 2 anyway, that H2 nonsense was bugging me! Roll on August

Fysh

I'm really looking forward to this; I only recently got around to finally checking out Zombie's previous films and as it turned out I really enjoyed all of them (I'd avoided them previously as I'd been led to believe that he was basically making gore movies with no other merits). Has there been any announcement of what's planned beyond the second installment i.e. is he planning on doing a Halloween trilogy?

Fysh

Fysh wrote: »

I'm really looking forward to this; I only recently got around to finally checking out Zombie's previous films and as it turned out I really enjoyed all of them (I'd avoided them previously as I'd been led to believe that he was basically making gore movies with no other merits). Has there been any announcement of what's planned beyond the second installment i.e. is he planning on doing a Halloween trilogy?

There are no plans as yet for a part 3 but if Zombie is not involved I can see it being a direct to DVD sequel. Once Halloween is finished Zombie will go back to pre-production on Tyrannosaurus Rex and hopfully sort out The Haunted World of El Superbeasto which has had more release date changes than Duke Nukem Forever.

A lot of people assume that Zombie's films are cheap gore flicks. The Devil's Rejects is one of my favourite films. It's the best grindhouse film of all time and manages to do without even trying what Tarantino and Rodriguez failed to do. There are rumours floating around that the lost footage for House of 1,000 Corpses has been found. Fingers crossed it's just like the recent Nightbreed discovery and not just a rumour.

johnny_ultimate

The Devil's Rejects was solid alright, but I thought Halloween was a great first half let down by a far shallower and generic second. I guess it is a remake of a slasher movie, but the reversion to formula was a bit disappointing after an inventive and interesting backstory. Also, Malcolm McDowell was awful in it.

A sequel could be interesting, and hopefully that odd image suggests a slightly more surreal film.

Otis Driftwood

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A lot of people assume that Zombie's films are cheap gore flicks. The Devil's Rejects is one of my favourite films. It's the best grindhouse film of all time and manages to do without even trying what Tarantino and Rodriguez failed to do. There are rumours floating around that the lost footage for House of 1,000 Corpses has been found. Fingers crossed it's just like the recent Nightbreed discovery and not just a rumour.

Totally agree.I forking love The Devils Rejects.Its a glorious throwback to exploitation/grindhouse cinema.

Hadnt heard that the removed footage from HO1KC had been found.
I remember when it came out first that a crap load of cuts had to be made or it wouldnt get released so Id love to see it as Zombie intended with all the gore reinstated because I feel it suffered badly because of it.

Fysh

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The Devil's Rejects was solid alright, but I thought Halloween was a great first half let down by a far shallower and generic second. I guess it is a remake of a slasher movie, but the reversion to formula was a bit disappointing after an inventive and interesting backstory. Also, Malcolm McDowell was awful in it.

A sequel could be interesting, and hopefully that odd image suggests a slightly more surreal film.

I agree that the first half of Halloween was stronger than the second, but TBH a lot of that is down to the established format of slashers in general and Halloween in particular. I imagine there would've been complaints about the film "not being a Halloween movie" if it hadn't had that second half adhering to the formula (even though it did suffer from it).

Jack B. Badd

Really looking forward to H2 having watched Zombie's Hallowe'en recently. Can't say I'm hugely gone on remakes but Zombie's work is sufficiently good that it didn't bother me with Hallowe'en although I did prefer the first half to the second - as Fysh said, it suffered somewhat from having to adhere to the formula.
One of the things I particularly like about Zombie's films, moreso in 1000 Corpses & Devil's Rejects than Hallowe'en, is the sick humour and the sense of fetishism involved - something that has been woefully missing from a lot of the recent gore offerings.

Mr E

Trailer is out now.... "Not yet Rated"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXYRoMS8lX4

Basq

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What's he doing with a turkey carcass on his head?

Deleted User wrote: »

One of the few remakes which I really liked was Rob Zombie's Halloween

It started off different.. and quite enjoyable.

But more or less became a shot-for-shot remake mid-way through.

basquille

basquille wrote: »

What's he doing with a turkey carcass on his head?

I'm assuming that it's a rotting pumpkin but then again perhaps Zombie is going for soemthign differnet and making it a Thanksgiving based killing spree this time round.

basquille wrote: »

It started off different.. and quite enjoyable.

But more or less became a shot-for-shot remake mid-way through.

That's the problem with Halloween. The fnas would have been in uproar had he not giving them some sort of throw back to the original. I don't mind Zombie reusing shots from the original as it's not a case of him lacking originality and more so of him trying to apease the fans. From what I've seen thus far regarding Halloween 2 Zombie seems to be striving for something far more original. Hell, the fact that he's at least trying to do something original is somethign we should applaud as I'm fairly certain that had he went to the Weinstein's and said "I want to use the original script and made no changes" they would have told him to get to work on it.

johnny_ultimate

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I'm assuming that it's a rotting pumpkin but then again perhaps Zombie is going for soemthign differnet and making it a Thanksgiving based killing spree this time round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mH2KrDKjBY

In all honesty, that trailer is probably the best thing Eli Roth has ever done. By a considerable margin. (oh, and NSFW)

johnny_ultimate

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mH2KrDKjBY

In all honesty, that trailer is probably the best thing Eli Roth has ever done. By a considerable margin. (oh, and NSFW)

I quite like Cabin Fever and Hostel 2 is a far better film than people give it credit for. The scariest thing about that trailer is that Roth intends to turn it into a feature length film.

Here's the ultimate Thanksgiving horror film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjSRoxc6mg

johnny_ultimate

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I quite like Cabin Fever and Hostel 2 is a far better film than people give it credit for. The scariest thing about that trailer is that Roth intends to turn it into a feature length film.

I did enjoy the original Hostel (although I won't argue about the second one cause I'll just get angry :pac:). But I think Eli Roth doesn't get his own joke if he intends to make that a full feature.

I also think this thread has made me interested in seeking out the original Halloween. That remains a serious gap in my viewing history.

johnny_ultimate

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I did enjoy the original Hostel (although I won't argue about the second one cause I'll just get angry :pac:). But I think Eli Roth doesn't get his own joke if he intends to make that a full feature.

I also think this thread has made me interested in seeking out the original Halloween. That remains a serious gap in my viewing history.

First time I saw the trailer I knew that to extend it at all would rob it of it's novelty factor. Then again this is Eli Roth who much like Tarantino believes his own hype.

The original Halloween films. like all horror franchises a mixed bag. Be sure to check out part 3 for its uniqueness though.

Karl Hungus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yLtNuAbXQ

niallon

One thing that bugs the hell out of me about this film, as seen from the trailer, is what looks to be many scenes containing the hood up look and in fact no mask whatsoever. It's like taking away Batman's suit...

Otis Driftwood

Exclusive Myers picture from iconsoffright.

Is it just me or does he look like a Slipknot fan.



Other related stuff on their site.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/08/icons_exclusive_killer_new_ima.html

niallon

The tattered mask just dulls the impact for me, I'm not a fan. H20 and Resurrection proved that being able to see Myers' eyes takes away the whole blank, death like expression of the mask. This may seem like a nit picking complaint but not for me, that mask gave me countless nightmares as a kid!

This level of destruction is ok but the above is definitely too much:

][cEMAN**

It's true the black holes worked with the idea that the eyes are the window to the soul, and he was soul less, but it also made it a character that seemed unreal.

Here's the thing, Michael is an efficient, determined killer. There are many out there in the real world.

What scares the hell out of me in horror movies? Reality. Not some latex thing that chases half naked teenage girls around, but the things that would involve me if but for the geography, or the chance factor.

Real life is more scary than anything you could see in a film. "Knowing" had a brilliant moment in it

the bit where the plane crashed over the highway

and that could really happen to anyone. At any moment, your life could just be turned upside down, and if you stopped and thought about it, it could be quite scary.

Make Michael as real as possible, and give people more nightmares about him than they had about canibals living down the street, after seeing silence of the lambs.

humanji

See, I'd be of the opposite opinion with Meyers. I like the idea of the pristine mask that makes him even more intimidating. They put him through so much, but it always looks like he's taking no damage at all, like he's invincible.

Reality is ok, but there's thousands of films trying to portray reality. I liked the old slasher movies because they were unrealistic in their behavior (like always being able to appear in front of the sexy teens, even though they'd been running directly away from them for hours). I always felt that it made the films more fun.

Like the line from Predator: "If it bleeds, we can kill it". If Meyers mask can be damaged, then there's hope of stopping him. Sexy teens shouldn't have hope!

uncleoswald

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[cEMAN**;61457823']
Make Michael as real as possible

Why remake Halloween at all then? Let Rob Zombie go and make another serial killer movie (perhaps not a real-life one though as I wouldn't trust Rob Zombie to handle that sort of material.) Halloween isn't real, it always had a supernatural quality about it, Myers was so far gone, inhuman not in a Myra Hindly/Ted Budy way but in a more literal sense. He was the embodiment of evil.

Fysh

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[cEMAN**;61457823']Here's the thing, Michael is an efficient, determined killer. There are many out there in the real world.

Make Michael as real as possible, and give people more nightmares about him than they had about canibals living down the street, after seeing silence of the lambs.

That's what I was so impressed by with Zombie's remake of Halloween. I liked the original, but not most of the sequels, because while there was an unexplained supernatural aspect, it was mostly about his pitiless brutality.

A fresh, well-scripted approach in this vein will have a lot more mileage than that nonsensical "evil never really dies" rubbish they tried to peddle as a way to keep the franchise going.

uncleoswald wrote: »

Why remake Halloween at all then? Let Rob Zombie go and make another serial killer movie (perhaps not a real-life one though as I wouldn't trust Rob Zombie to handle that sort of material.) Halloween isn't real, it always had a supernatural quality about it, Myers was so far gone, inhuman not in a Myra Hindly/Ted Budy way but in a more literal sense. He was the embodiment of evil.

The question about remaking it was always a financial one - how much money is there in the name and the associated copyrights? If you're going to remake a franchise, it needs to be different enough to the earlier material to justify itself as a remake. At the same time it needs to have something of the source material, to capitalise on the appeal of the trademark and the brand and show that this isn't just a generic story that's had Myers crowbarred into it.

None of which sounds like it has anything much to do with "wanting to tell a good story" or anything like that, but then that's the reality of film-making, I suppose...

Handsome Bob

Ridiculously violent and frequent nudity..........I shall be looking forward to this. :pac:

evad_lhorg

niallon wrote: »

his may seem like a nit picking complaint but not for me, that mask gave me countless nightmares as a kid!

I agree but I still get them ****in nightmares. whenever there is people getting killed in my dreams its this dick doin it.:D

Trail_Blazer

I'm looking forward to this one. I really liked Zombie's remake from a coupla years back. I really only had 2 complaints about it:

-The song "Love Hurts" was played in a Halloween movie

-Michael Myers was WAY too BIG!

I say that, because his height/frame was massive in the remake! Whereas the thing about the Myers character, was he was just a guy with an average build in the original and sequels. Here he's a hulking beast of a man. I don't doubt that Halloween 2's remake will have the same issue.

Oh well, I can look past it - So long as the movie doesn't suck!

I really love Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode too. She's so much hotter than Jamie Lee!

niallon

Trail_Blazer wrote: »

I say that, because his height/frame was massive in the remake! Whereas the thing about the Myers character, was he was just a guy with an average build in the original and sequels. Here he's a hulking beast of a man. I don't doubt that Halloween 2's remake will have the same issue.

Well that's a given, Tyler Mane is still playing him!

I really love Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode too. She's so much hotter than Jamie Lee!

Blasphemy! Sheer and utter blasphemy!

Handsome Bob

Total blasphemy. Reference: True Lies and Trading Places!

Den_M

I like the fact that Zombie is putting his own slant on things but I think he's changing the very things that made Halloween so great in the first place. To such a degree that he might as well have created his own character rather than calling it Halloween.

Personally, I don't want to know that much about Michael, he was always a faceless, mysterious killing machine and that's what I loved the most. Giving him a back story and trying to explain exactly why he is the way he is only takes away from this. I prefer the original pristine, simpler mask.

Also, I don't like way the characters in his 1st Halloween film are like extras from The Devils Rejects, typical white trash, far too much swearing for my liking as well.

Mac055

I'm actually looking forward to seeing this, to see watch direction Rob Zombie will take the franchise... There been alot of bad remakes of John Carpenter's best work.. Case and Point The Fog!!!

I believe Zombie did a good job of Halloween, especially involving Micheal's back story...
It seems to be the rage to resurrect old horror franchises.. I've not seen the new Friday the 13th, but i'm interested to see how the new A Nightmare On Elm Street will turn out.

Otis Driftwood

The Friday the 13th re-whateverthefcuktheycallit is crap.

Its hard to know how the new Elm Street will go.The major thing Im concerned with is just how CGI heavy it will be.Im hoping that they arent going to have huge sweeping dream sequences shot on blue screen but Im also a realist and this tends to happen.Time will tell I guess.

Ive actually been working through all the original Elm Street movies.Have gone through 1-3 thus far..

Mac055

nedtheshed wrote: »

The Friday the 13th re-whateverthefcuktheycallit is crap.

Its hard to know how the new Elm Street will go.The major thing Im concerned with is just how CGI heavy it will be.Im hoping that they arent going to have huge sweeping dream sequences shot on blue screen but Im also a realist and this tends to happen.Time will tell I guess.

Ive actually been working through all the original Elm Street movies.Have gone through 1-3 thus far..

I've been doing the same... up to 4 now. Only real this i know is that Jackie Earle Harley is playing Freddie Kruger, he played Rorshach in Watchmen. Only thing is Micheal Bay's producing it!!

Otis Driftwood

Mac055 wrote: »

Micheal Bay

Trail_Blazer

I refuse to watch the remake of NOES. You simply don't have Freddy without Robert Englund. I mean he IS Freddy. With Michael & Jason, you can put whoever you want behind the masks. But with Freddy, it doesn't work that way. Same with Pinhead from Hellraiser and Chucky the Killer Doll. You need Doug Bradley to be Pinhead, so when they remake Hellraiser I'll be sitting that one out as well.

They can remake Child's Play or whatever, so long as Brad Dourif's voicing Chucky, that's cool. If it's not Dourif, it's not Chucky and I don't watch it.

niallon

Trail_Blazer wrote: »

With Michael...you can put whoever you want behind the masks.

No you can't, Brad Loree a prime example of this.