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Am I fit enough to join a club or is this workout easy

  • 18-06-2009 8:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    Interested in ye're opinions on a session I did recently and whether I should join a club (Background aged 28, stamina type build, thick neck 16.5" for my weight, 12 stone when fit, 5'10" tall).

    Warmed up on the Cross trainer skiier for 15 minutes. Just got a sweat up.

    Then went nice n solid for 12 rounds of three minutes on the heavy bag.
    Now I was still able to keep pop in the shots in the last seconds of the last round. Plenty advancing retreating, circling the bag. Estimate maybe 150 - 180 shots in each round, all I know is I watched the fight where Margarito had the record for punches n I threw more per round than he did. Biggest gap might be 3 seconds between a combo.

    Is this just from my background in Cross Country running or would you consider my upper body stamina is good. Or as I'm not taking shots back this workout is actually easy. It's just you read all the time about people saying "keep your hands up n throw punches for three minutes you'll be exhausted"??

    The punches all had reasonable technique, plenty o hips, shoulder n finishing arm snap n clench the fist at the last moment. Kept the hands up at all times. Tried to move between punches n bob n weave a bit. My gloves were light bag gloves though, think they're 10 oz.

    Should I consider joining a club if I can do that session? Would I after one -two years be able to mix it with juniors. Don't think I'm a complete beginner as I can throw most my punches with decent technique n power.

    My skill ability at the moment is being able to pop two shots left-right to the practice pads, dodge the counter punch n finish with a left or right hook.
    Am naturally able to stay up on my toes like you see shown, what I mean is I find that a natural way to move, I don't have to force myself to do it.

    P.J.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Genuinely, you would be shocked how good the juniors would be, by the way junior in a boxing club is u16! if you mean intermediate then you would be miles off there level as most would have 10-15 years training on you, best thing to do is go train in a club and see how you get on-you might love it, worst case scenario you'll be a pure beginner and will have loads of potential improvement to make.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,222 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Too old for the Juniors.

    Paul, I thought the Juniors was up to 19 years of age. It used to be called the U19 championships? 16 would be Youth 2 wouldn't it?

    Anyway, best for you is to maybe enter the Novice championships.
    You would be a beginner after all and this is for those with three or less
    fights I believe! Get some experience and it means that the opponents are
    on the same level as regards experience and RING time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    walshb wrote: »
    Too old for the Juniors.

    Paul, I thought the Juniors was up to 19 years of age. It used to be called the U19 championships? 16 would be Youth 2 wouldn't it?

    Anyway, best for you is to maybe enter the Novice championships.
    You would be a beginner after all and this is for those with three or less
    fights I believe! Get some experience and it means that the opponents are
    on the same level as regards experience and RING time!

    You might be right actually!
    16 is youth 2, i think u 18 might be juniour!

    now there is u21 aswell, ah well point still stands though, Novice would be the way to go..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭pjbrady1


    Thanks for the replies guys,

    I shouldn't have any problems with fitness as I'v well above average stamina.

    Technique I'v been working on for a year n a half. I'v the left jab, straight right and footwork going pretty good. They can improve but it won't be a major leap. Uppercuts I don't like, I find they knock you out of your Rhythm more than the other punches. Hooks I don't like having the elbow up too high.
    Do ye all keep that elbow up high, does it not mean you have to bring your chin a small bit nearer your opponent? N it draws you a little more off balance than having the elbow lower? I like to make sure I can move off every punch, that I'm not so overly committed n positioned that if I miss I'm off balance n open.

    I approach bag work with the thinking that I want to avoid punches so the first one or two punches are feint punches then move left or right n pop the shots from there.

    I thought juniors was the novices my mistake, alright I'll do a bit of reading up on the novices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,222 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pjbrady1 wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies guys,

    I shouldn't have any problems with fitness as I'v well above average stamina.

    Technique I'v been working on for a year n a half. I'v the left jab, straight right and footwork going pretty good. They can improve but it won't be a major leap. Uppercuts I don't like, I find they knock you out of your Rhythm more than the other punches. Hooks I don't like having the elbow up too high.
    Do ye all keep that elbow up high, does it not mean you have to bring your chin a small bit nearer your opponent? N it draws you a little more off balance than having the elbow lower? I like to make sure I can move off every punch, that I'm not so overly committed n positioned that if I miss I'm off balance n open.

    I approach bag work with the thinking that I want to avoid punches so the first one or two punches are feint punches then move left or right n pop the shots from there.

    I thought juniors was the novices my mistake, alright I'll do a bit of reading up on the novices.

    It seems like you are fairly fit and fair play there. I will say one thing, as fit as you are at running and hitting a bag etc, the real test is when you spar. It is the toughest stamina test of all; but your natural fitness will definitely benefit you I feel. You have that, and now you simply need to increase it!


    84. In all contests other than competitions the number and duration of rounds, with one minute intervals between each, shall be agreed beforehand and in accordance with the following: -

    (a) Elite (formerly Senior), Intermediate, Youths (formerly U 18 and U 19) and Under 21as prescribed for championships or alternatively three or four rounds of three minutes duration and not more than six rounds of two minutes duration.

    (b) Novice – as prescribed for championships or alternatively not more than four rounds of two minutes duration.

    © Schoolboys (formerly Boys) – as prescribed for championships or not more than four rounds of one and one-half minutes duration.

    (d) Junior (formerly Youths) – as prescribed for championships or not more than four rounds of two minutes duration.

    84.1 All contests shall be restricted to the number of rounds for which they have been arranged. An extra round shall not be ordered under any circumstances.


    Above text is taken from the IABA rule book from the website IABA.IE


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