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Continental boeing 777 flying with a dead pilot.

  • 18-06-2009 3:52pm
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    Boeing 777 owned by Continental Airlines is on its way from Brussles to Newark with a dead pilot on board. Emergency procedures are in force. The Co pilot would want to know his stuff.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8107838.stm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 kippy
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    Boeing 777 owned by Continental Airlines is on its way from Brussles to Newark with a dead pilot on board. Emergency procedures are in force. The Co pilot would want to know his stuff.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8107838.stm

    RIP to the captain and sympathies to his family, friends and co-workers.









    Surely there would be no issues with 2 co-pilots flying the plane, one would assume one of the reasons they are there is for this very reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 Run_to_da_hills
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    News just in, it landed safely. RIP to the Captain, Reports recon that it was natural causes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 FOGOFUNK
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    crazy stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ch252
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    As I said on aviationandaircraft.com, my condolences to the family of the captain, and fair play to the crew for landing it safely under such stressful conditions.
    Here's what Newark looked like for the landing, newark_20090618121618_320_240.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 rosco263


    Fair play to the co-pilots......sounds like they did a good job! It wouldnt be easy to stay focussed after a tragic thing like that to happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 peter1892
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    An incapacitated pilot is a scenario that would be dealt with in simulator training. But in reality it's fair to assume it to be a difficult & upsetting experience for the other pilot(s) and cabin crew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 Foggy43
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    Normally there would only have been 2 pilots on trip like that. Captain and First Officer.

    In the circumstances I do not want to sound harsh but do not forget 'Autoland'. In weather conditions like that and what the pilots had been through they would have carried out an autoland. Nowadays I think 1 in every 4 landings are done manually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 joey54
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    A job well done to the co-pilots. Its not easy to step up like that after witnessing the death of a colleague/friend and then have to stay cool and calm and land the plane safely.
    Condolences to the family of the captain.

    Ar dheis Dé to raibh a anam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 secman
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    Apparently an off duty senior pilot happened to be on board as a passenger and I believe he took control of the aircraft. Also a doctor on board tried to attend to the pilot, but to no avail . Tough on the other cabin crew though, Just as well other pilot was on plane.


    Yours

    Secman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ch252
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    The co-pilot landed it, the other pilot did go to the cockpit but he took the role of co-pilot then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 skybus


    The chain of command in commercial flying operations starts with the captain, then the first officer, and in the case of longer flights a designated relief pilot who usually also holds the rank of first officer. In this case after the unfortunate event occured the first officer, as per procedures in probably every airline in the world, assumes command of the aircraft and is the new 'designated' captain of the aircraft, regardless of any individual or colleague that may be down the back of the aircraft willing to help. It's a common assumption amongst people that the captain on any flight is the only person that ever flies and that the person sitting next to them is merely watching how things are done. Of course in reality it's quite the opposite. The flights are usually divided equally amongst both pilots in that one flies one leg and then visa versa on the return. It's quite possible that the first officer on this flight was the actual flying pilot on this leg when this situation occured.

    It's unfortunate when these events happen and is no doubt disturbing seeing a colleague in trouble beside you from either seat. However, despite it being deemed an emergency the flight would and did in this case pass over as uneventful. In fact it's been quoted that most passengers weren't aware of anything strange happening until the flight had already landed.

    These things happen in all walks of life, aviation is not immune to it despite the annual medicals. However you can be assured that the other member of the team in the cockpit is more than qualified to bring the aircraft back down to earth in one piece again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 Run_to_da_hills
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    skybus wrote: »
    The chain of command in commercial flying operations starts with the captain, then the first officer, and in the case of longer flights a designated relief pilot who usually also holds the rank of first officer. In this case after the unfortunate event occured the first officer, as per procedures in probably every airline in the world, assumes command of the aircraft and is the new 'designated' captain of the aircraft, regardless of any individual or colleague that may be down the back of the aircraft willing to help. It's a common assumption amongst people that the captain on any flight is the only person that ever flies and that the person sitting next to them is merely watching how things are done. Of course in reality it's quite the opposite. The flights are usually divided equally amongst both pilots in that one flies one leg and then visa versa on the return. It's quite possible that the first officer on this flight was the actual flying pilot on this leg when this situation occured.

    It's unfortunate when these events happen and is no doubt disturbing seeing a colleague in trouble beside you from either seat. However, despite it being deemed an emergency the flight would and did in this case pass over as uneventful. In fact it's been quoted that most passengers weren't aware of anything strange happening until the flight had already landed.

    These things happen in all walks of life, aviation is not immune to it despite the annual medicals. However you can be assured that the other member of the team in the cockpit is more than qualified to bring the aircraft back down to earth in one piece again.
    Well said.


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