Jesus Wept: Indy 5 Set To Happen

ziedth

Indiana Jones is to get a fourth sequel, as producer Frank Marshall confirmed to Empire that development would begin "sooner rather than later." Considering the backlash from fans about the last film, this would be somewhat surprising news. But, Crystal Skull made nearly $800 million worldwide, hammering home that there is still a huge audience for the aging adventurer. That said, it's thought that Indy would take a back seat this time and become a supporting player, so Shia Labeouf would take over leading man duties, with his character Mutt. According to Marshall, all of the main players are coming back, including director Steven Spielberg and producer George Lucas - who many blame for the inexplicable plot of the first film.

http://entertainment.ie/cinema/cinema-news-article.asp?NewsID=28349

I don't I need to say anymore.

GAAman

tbh

Galvasean

That picture says it all..

Mossy Monk

I can't wait to not see this. The last one made me angry with myself for paying to see it in the cinema.

Basq

Will they ever let it f*cking die!?!

Otis Driftwood

People seem surprised by this.

In a world where even the most original and inventive movies can get ass raped by sequels and remakes it hardly comes as a shock does it?

Its just a matter of the cinema going public reaping what they have sown.

senordingdong

basquille wrote: »

Will they ever let it f*cking die!?!

Nothing.
Ever.
Dies.
In.
Hollywood.

Dozen Wicked Words

George Lucas has form (or lack of it) in killing his classics with woeful prequels.
Star Wars 1,2 and 3 spring to mind.

Read about this a few days back and have to say I'm hardly surprised. Part 4 made nealy 800 million worldwide and a sequel was inevitable.

mike65

We kill the things we love. I was watching Duel on ITV4 the other night, 73 mins of building terror. Lean and mean. Someone should sit Spielberg down and make him watch it.

Pop's Diner

Great news! I look forward to seeing it.

IMHO Indy 4 was enjoyable and certainly not out of place with the 3 movies that preceeded it. It's a pity people can't watch these new SW/Indy movies thru the same eyes & mind they had when they were a kid watching the originals, then they might stop blathering on about how their sacred movie serials have been 'ruined'. There is a definite emotional bias clouding most fans opinions of Lucas latest offerings.

Lucas was already a grown man when he designed the Indy and SW movies in the 70's and 80's. He designed them deliberately for kids and by-and-large kids were the people who took the movies to their hearts and became their staunchest defenders.

20 years later when he revived them in the 90's 00's he was still and adult. The problem was his fanbase had grown up but he is still designing his new movies for kids (a new generation of kids). He's not the one who changed, you are. I'm simply amazed that even 10 years on now so many fanboys cannot accept this fact and just want to live in this fantasyland where it is they know what SW and Indy *should be*, but that guy who had made a career out of meticulously designing these universes suddenly is somehow completely clueless and irreverent wrt to production processes he himself put in place?

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!

Roll on Indy 5!

robgordon

Really not brothered with this one at all. Fourth film was a mess! No Ford as star, then no watchy!

pickarooney

Pop's Diner wrote: »

Great news! I look forward to seeing it.

IMHO Indy 4 was enjoyable and certainly not out of place with the 3 movies that preceeded it. It's a pity people can't watch these new SW/Indy movies thru the same eyes & mind they had when they were a kid watching the originals, then they might stop blathering on about how their sacred movie serials have been 'ruined'. There is a definite emotional bias clouding most fans opinions of Lucas latest offerings.

Lucas was already a grown man when he designed the Indy and SW movies in the 70's and 80's. He designed them deliberately for kids and by-and-large kids were the people who took the movies to their hearts and became their staunchest defenders.

20 years later when he revived them in the 90's 00's he was still and adult. The problem was his fanbase had grown up but he is still designing his new movies for kids (a new generation of kids). He's not the one who changed, you are. I'm simply amazed that even 10 years on now so many fanboys cannot accept this fact and just want to live in this fantasyland where it is they know what SW and Indy *should be*, but that guy who had made a career out of meticulously designing these universes suddenly is somehow completely clueless and irreverent wrt to production processes he himself put in place?

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!

Roll on Indy 5!

You make a very good point. Unfortunately, from any angle, Indy 4 was cack.

nix

Pop's Diner wrote: »

Great news! I look forward to seeing it.

IMHO Indy 4 was enjoyable and certainly not out of place with the 3 movies that preceeded it. It's a pity people can't watch these new SW/Indy movies thru the same eyes & mind they had when they were a kid watching the originals, then they might stop blathering on about how their sacred movie serials have been 'ruined'. There is a definite emotional bias clouding most fans opinions of Lucas latest offerings.

Lucas was already a grown man when he designed the Indy and SW movies in the 70's and 80's. He designed them deliberately for kids and by-and-large kids were the people who took the movies to their hearts and became their staunchest defenders.

20 years later when he revived them in the 90's 00's he was still and adult. The problem was his fanbase had grown up but he is still designing his new movies for kids (a new generation of kids). He's not the one who changed, you are. I'm simply amazed that even 10 years on now so many fanboys cannot accept this fact and just want to live in this fantasyland where it is they know what SW and Indy *should be*, but that guy who had made a career out of meticulously designing these universes suddenly is somehow completely clueless and irreverent wrt to production processes he himself put in place?

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!

Roll on Indy 5!

I enjoyed and can sit through any of the star wars movies, Indy 4 on the other hand is just a piece of **** which i never ever want to see again and never will. Ford is the only character in 4 that gave the movie any credability and now they aren't making him the main lead, Shit Lebutt will be taking up the reigns. And i bet they just make it a direct copy of last crusade with the connery/ford combo. It's so obvious even at this stage

Wagon

I walked out of the cinema trying to tell myself that it wasn't bad. that it was good....that there were good scenes at times and harrison ford is still cool...Then the end came. And i regret paying for it.

Ill download the new one and delete it without watching it, just to make a point. Wish speilberg and lucas would just **** off.

TheIrishGrover

Read about this the other day. About the only thing that could make this news any worse is if they came out and said that they were replacing Harrison Ford with................. Nicholas Cage

Indiana Jones and the search for a good haircut...... in Bangkok.

The Don

Pop's Diner makes a valid point but I feel the same as nix. I didn't mind the 3 new Star Wars films and enjoyed them. The Clone Wars Cartoon that was released after Episode II was fantastic. I haven't watched the new cgi cartoon because I thought that The Clone Wars cgi film isn't great.

Indy 4 started well (Except for the gopher and Legendary fridge scene). The bike scene and the graveyard ones were classic Indy stuff. I understand what he was doing relating it to the 50's films (russians and the aliens to an extent) but there was far too much use of cgi in it. The scenes in the jungles in particular were just like a slap in the face. Especially after I'd heard that Lucans and Spielberg said they would use 'minimal' cgi. It all could have been done on some set with real stunts. One of the things that made Indy films so great were the stunts. A friend the other day had just watched Raiders again and said that it was the perfect film and he couldn't find any flaws in it.

I hope they have taken some of the criticisms on board for Indy 5, for me its the cgi. As long as its enjoyable after that I won't mind as I've given up expecting more. Here's hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Sleazus

Pop's Diner wrote: »

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!!

The problem is that Lucas made those original movies so well that they became iconic and familiar - almost part of the family. Everyone who watched those films took an instantly liking to Indy, and felt like they knew him a little.

Watching Indiana Jones and the Aliens was like watching your lovable rascal of an adventurer uncle suddenly deciding he wants to give up being fun to play the pretentious guitar badly on Grafton Street for petty cash - it's only mildly irritating if its someone you don't know doing it, but it's a heartbreaking betrayal to find it's someone you know and care about.

We can't stop him making it, we're just saying that watching the inevitable consequences is probably going to be quite painful for us.

Personally, I think it could work out - just keep Lucas as far away from the script as possible. Spielberg needs to tone down the CGI, but that was by no means the worst thing about that movie.

amacca

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Read about this the other day. About the only thing that could make this news any worse is if they came out and said that they were replacing Harrison Ford with................. Nicholas Cage

Indiana Jones and the search for a good haircut...... in Bangkok.

Aah, you've seen Bangkok Dangerous too......putrid, festering cesspool of a cinematic experience that it is.

It really is dangerous, a small part of my soul was killed the day I walked out of that one. I wasn't even in a cinema, I foolishly rented it.

I should have read some reviews....STUPID..STUPID..STUPID!

uncleoswald

Pop's Diner wrote: »

IMHO Indy 4 was enjoyable and certainly not out of place with the 3 movies that preceeded it. It's a pity people can't watch these new SW/Indy movies thru the same eyes & mind they had when they were a kid watching the originals, then they might stop blathering on about how their sacred movie serials have been 'ruined'. There is a definite emotional bias clouding most fans opinions of Lucas latest offerings.

Lucas was already a grown man when he designed the Indy and SW movies in the 70's and 80's. He designed them deliberately for kids and by-and-large kids were the people who took the movies to their hearts and became their staunchest defenders.

20 years later when he revived them in the 90's 00's he was still and adult. The problem was his fanbase had grown up but he is still designing his new movies for kids (a new generation of kids). He's not the one who changed, you are. I'm simply amazed that even 10 years on now so many fanboys cannot accept this fact and just want to live in this fantasyland where it is they know what SW and Indy *should be*, but that guy who had made a career out of meticulously designing these universes suddenly is somehow completely clueless and irreverent wrt to production processes he himself put in place?

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!

To be honest I'm pretty sick of this defence that always gets trotted out when someone criticise Lucas. Is it really beyond the realms of thought to think that someone could make some good movies and then make some terrible ones? Are there no musicians that you only like their work in a particular period? I'm not someone who holds the view that he raped my childhood, just that he makes some very bad movies now that unfortunately take away somewhat from the originals

For your defence to work you have to completely remove the concept of criticism and of the notion of good and bad films, that they are all just made with a certain audince in mind. You also have to be of the opinion that children today will hold Indy 4 or the Star Wars prequels to their hearts for 20 years as we held the originals. But they wont as they are artless constructions. Watch interviews with Lucas as he talks about these movies and compare this to the child like enthusiasm as he talked about the originals and the inspirations behind them. There is no longer any love of the story or characters and most importantly no love of the process of filmmaking. He just talks about how amazing it is that they were able to shoot it in such a short amount of time thanks to modern technology and the amount of digital effects in each shot. He makes movies like an accountant.

You say that Lucas designed these worlds and therefore knows better then us what we like about them? Such as when he criticised the director of Empire for all the banter with Han Solo as it didn't move the story along but its the fans favourite? Lucas has been responsible for some of my happiest memories in film but lets face it he always needed someone to say "No Lucas", even when writing the original Star Wars. He was surronded by yes men for the prequels. And for Indy 4 its well know that Spielberg and Ford were happy with a Frank Darabont script but for whatever reason (it probably wasn't A to B to C enough) Lucas didn't like it so they had another one done. I for one would have preferred the Darabont script but better still for the "franchise" (ugh) to be put to rest.

MagicMarker

Pop's Diner wrote: »

Great news! I look forward to seeing it.

IMHO Indy 4 was enjoyable and certainly not out of place with the 3 movies that preceeded it. It's a pity people can't watch these new SW/Indy movies thru the same eyes & mind they had when they were a kid watching the originals, then they might stop blathering on about how their sacred movie serials have been 'ruined'. There is a definite emotional bias clouding most fans opinions of Lucas latest offerings.

Lucas was already a grown man when he designed the Indy and SW movies in the 70's and 80's. He designed them deliberately for kids and by-and-large kids were the people who took the movies to their hearts and became their staunchest defenders.

20 years later when he revived them in the 90's 00's he was still and adult. The problem was his fanbase had grown up but he is still designing his new movies for kids (a new generation of kids). He's not the one who changed, you are. I'm simply amazed that even 10 years on now so many fanboys cannot accept this fact and just want to live in this fantasyland where it is they know what SW and Indy *should be*, but that guy who had made a career out of meticulously designing these universes suddenly is somehow completely clueless and irreverent wrt to production processes he himself put in place?

You should be thanking the guy that he even made one movie you enjoyed instead of criticising him for (what you see as) some 'betrayal' of some sort of preconcieved notion you have of what you think these movies should be wrt to you cinematic & life experiences!

Roll on Indy 5!

Deep man, brought a tear to my eye.

Tony EH

ziedth wrote: »

...That said, it's thought that Indy would take a back seat this time and become a supporting player, so Shia Labeouf would take over leading man duties, with his character Mutt...

Oh no, no, no, no...................

Karl Hungus

Tony EH wrote: »

Oh no, no, no, no...................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

Tony EH

norrie rugger

nix wrote: »

I enjoyed and can sit through any of the star wars movies, Indy 4 on the other hand is just a piece of **** which i never ever want to see again and never will. Ford is the only character in 4 that gave the movie any credability and now they aren't making him the main lead, Shit Lebutt will be taking up the reigns. And i bet they just make it a direct copy of last crusade with the connery/ford combo. It's so obvious even at this stage

Why did they just not recast Indy, if they were going to shunt Ford to one side anyway

Nathon Fillion FTW

norrie rugger

Karl Hungus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

some one should put that to the music from No Limit

chamlis

norrie rugger wrote: »

Why did they just not recast Indy, if they were going to shunt Ford to one side anyway

Nathon Fillion FTW

Nathan Fillion.... My God that's brilliant!

Roar

chamlis wrote: »

Nathan Fillion.... My God that's brilliant!

the way the indy series is going Nathan Lane is probably more likely..

norrie rugger

chamlis wrote: »

Nathan Fillion.... My God that's brilliant!

Come on Spielberg, you know it makes sense

norrie rugger

Roar wrote: »

the way the indy series is going Nathan Lane is probably more likely..

I must admit that I lol'd