JOGGING OR RUNNING

ultraman1

whats the difference between joggin or runnin.how many minutes does it take to jog a mile compared to running a mile or would a 4 hour marathon or more count as running or jogging?

RacoonQueen

It generally depends on how much of a superiority complex someone has, some people would define it as only people who run 7 or sub 7 minute miles is a runner(I've seen that on here). I'd define it as a jogger does it for fitness, has no sort of structure and just go out when they feel like it. A runner, loves what they do, they compete regularly, they constantly strive to improve even by a second, most of the things they do on a daily basis is done with the thoughts of tonights or tomorrows run on their mind etc etc etc

ecoli

ultraman1 wrote: »

whats the difference between joggin or runnin.how many minutes does it take to jog a mile compared to running a mile or would a 4 hour marathon or more count as running or jogging?

Good question i feel that most people who are familiar with the sport would view it as running unless they are running less than 50% effort. In that terms the definition would be completely arbitrary and personal.
Most people with no involvement of the sport would see anything over 5 mile race pace as jogging bar elite internation competitions

Hard Worker

ultraman1 wrote: »

whats the difference between joggin or runnin.how many minutes does it take to jog a mile compared to running a mile or would a 4 hour marathon or more count as running or jogging?

It really depends on if you are a running snob or not.
Really, it's a relative question. You could run a mile in eight minutes, but to someone who has done a five minute mile, eight minutes is a jog.

TheRoadRunner

Personally I would go with heart rate. Anything under 130 is generally a jog in my book anything over is running. Takes the snobbery out of the equation

jinka

You going jogging?
marathon? where did you come?
you need a good meal?
you are very skinny-
is that not bad for your knees?
whats the point in running ?

the more ignorant they are the worse they get......

TheRoadRunner

I agree that your list is indeed a list of insults but recently I've been told I look better since I put a weight back on :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

shels4ever

Tell me about it, the wife seen a photo of me from back in 98/99 and she said i'm not to look like that again....

RacoonQueen

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

I agree that your list is indeed a list of insults but recently I've been told I look better since I put a weight back on :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I had patients tell me that they'd be more confident working with me if I put on some weight. I'm not the slimmest person in the world either.

jinka

Im actually sick of defending my weight! Its because most people are overweight and even if our weight is normal,we are still ""skinny""

One good thing is I get girls pinching my ass in crowded pubs !!
never a bad thing!!

SUNGOD

RacoonQueen wrote: »

It generally depends on how much of a superiority complex someone has, some people would define it as only people who run 7 or sub 7 minute miles is a runner(I've seen that on here). I'd define it as a jogger does it for fitness, has no sort of structure and just go out when they feel like it. A runner, loves what they do, they compete regularly, they constantly strive to improve even by a second, most of the things they do on a daily basis is done with the thoughts of tonights or tomorrows run on their mind etc etc etc

yeah completely agree..a joggers goal is to leisurely and without structure improve there fitness where as a runners goal is to improve performance/endurance and post PB's in the favourite distance races now these lines get blurred all the time but we all know people who " do a bit of running" and we also know people( prob ourselves) who are borderline obsessed with min miles/splits/training plans/taper etc (eg woddle:D)

buck65

Jogging is a new thing that I have heard of , I'm not sure if its pronounced yogging or jogging. I believe there is a soft j.

t-ha

I've been jogging for a week now (hi everyone). Me and a bunch of friends have signed up for the Dublin marathon in October. I have a structured programme I ripped off the internet so I run certain miles/day, timed splits, farltek, all that good stuff. I am a jogger.

buck65

t-ha wrote: »

I've been jogging for a week now (hi everyone). Me and a bunch of friends have signed up for the Dublin marathon in October. I have a structured programme I ripped off the internet so I run certain miles/day, timed splits, farltek, all that good stuff. I am a jogger.

You should bow in shame

We are all runners, RUNNERS
seriously isn't jogging what you do between intervals?you know the dragging the legs in a walk /trot kind of way?

thirtyfoot

buck65 wrote: »

We are all runners

If we want to get real snobby, many of us are athletes, not runners:D

t-ha

buck65 wrote: »

seriously isn't jogging what you do between intervals?you know the dragging the legs in a walk /trot kind of way?

Yep, thing is, was supposed to be doing 4 minute intervals yesterday with 1 minute jogging in between, but couldn't get more than 2-3 minutes going any pace faster than jogging!
Ah well, week two is only starting so I'm happy just to be able to make distance doing anything apart from walking (I'm snobby about walkers ).

--amadeus--

Funny enough I had that argument with MCOS on teh way up to Dublin last year. I would never (ever) call myself an athlete because in my head thats the elites, the skinny guys and gals at the front in with a chance of winning or placing in the race.

But when I went cross training last night and one of teh lads asked if I had jogged in I said "no, I ran"! Go figure

I think I read something somewhere that said that running is when both feet are airborne at some point in the stride cycle but I agree with what's said above - if you hop on a treadmill a couple of times a month to keep fit then you're probably a jogger. If you train for races then no matter how slow you are you're a runner. It's in teh mind, not the legs.

ecoli

Anyone who is willing to put themselves through what athletes do in order to achieve a particular goal such as a marathon in a particular time deserves to be classed seperate to the fitness "joggers" because fact of the matter is you have to be a little mad to subject yourself to it:D maybe this is how to class it jogging + little madness= running

Micilin Muc

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Personally I would go with heart rate. Anything under 130 is generally a jog in my book anything over is running. Takes the snobbery out of the equation

A 'jogger' wouldn't have a heart rate monitor, so they'd never know if they're a runner or a jogger!

ecoli

Micilin Muc wrote: »

A 'jogger' wouldn't have a heart rate monitor, so they'd never know if they're a runner or a jogger!

Brings back to my point of effort roughly 50% of ones max effort

TheRoadRunner

Micilin Muc wrote: »

A 'jogger' wouldn't have a heart rate monitor, so they'd never know if they're a runner or a jogger!

Who says you need a heart rate monitor to measure your pulse ? Two fingers on a carotid artery and a good old fashioned watch would suffice. That is unless joggers don't have fingers or a pulse

TFBubendorfer

Wasn't it Bill Rodgers who said that a jogger becomes a runner when he fills in his/her first race entry form?

shels4ever

Well I think i move from running to Jogging some where about te 7:30 min mile mark, Am i the only one who gets that great feeling that your moving quicker over the ground and almost flowing along ?

The Sprinting for me is anything in the 60/80 sec 400m pace range...


Time to go for a long jog/run now

liamo

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Wasn't it Bill Rodgers who said that a jogger becomes a runner when he fills in his/her first race entry form?

I remembered seeing something very similar and looked it up :

The late Dr. George Sheehan, beloved Runner's World columnist and arguably the first running boom's premier philosopher, once wrote that the difference between a runner and a jogger was a signature on a race application.

From this Runner's World article. Mildly amusing article and worth a read.

RacoonQueen

What about the womens mini marathon form then? It has spaces for runners, jogger and walkers.

gaf1983

When I used to play Gaelic, in training our coach would ask us to jog through some exercises than run through others. Jogging always seemed to be done at about 50% intensity, while running was done at about 80% or so of what we could do. It was just intuitive.

However, the Good Doctor Sheehan seems to have cleared thing up in that Runner's World Article.

baza1976

ultraman1 wrote: »

whats the difference between joggin or runnin.how many minutes does it take to jog a mile compared to running a mile or would a 4 hour marathon or more count as running or jogging?

Does it matter??

Rusty Cogs 08

baza1976 wrote: »

Does it matter??

Does anything ?

eliwallach

My tuppence worth.

Running is a generic term, that covers all bipedal movement quicker than walking.

Then you have varying speeds of running from the slower end (jogging) through to the quicker end (sprinting).
Jogging, cantering, galloping, sprinting - tis all running; just at varying intensity.

asimonov

In a race, you feel like you're running and everyone else looks like their jogging.

jlang

asimonov wrote: »

In a race, you feel like you're running and everyone else looks like their jogging.

And sometimes the opposite.

plodder

This reminds me. Did some cross country races this winter, and at one of them, I was just behind this chap, with about 300 metres to go. So, one of the stewards roars at us. "No holding hands crossing the line. This is a race!" . I thought it was quite funny, because even though I was running bloody hard (for me), I'd never really thought of my level of running/jogging as competitive, but he was absolutely right. It's only a question of attitude. So, we had a bit of a tussle over the last bit, and I just beat him :cool: and, even though we weren't winning any prizes, we were definitely running that day, not jogging..

TFBubendorfer

RacoonQueen wrote: »

What about the womens mini marathon form then? It has spaces for runners, jogger and walkers.

Well then, if you're following the Bill Rodgers/George Sheehan definition, the jogger becomes a runner if she decides to run the mini marathon as fast as she can.

Krusty_Clown

plodder wrote: »

"No holding hands crossing the line. This is a race!" . I thought it was quite funny, because even though I was running bloody hard (for me).

That's dead funny! Last night in an IMRA race, I tried to sneak up on someone who was 200m ahead of me, while a friend of mine tried to sneak up on me, over the last 500m. Unfortunately, when you're flying down a hill at full pelt, you make a lot of noise and alert the prey.

shels4ever

plodder wrote: »

This reminds me. Did some cross country races this winter, and at one of them, I was just behind this chap, with about 300 metres to go. So, one of the stewards roars at us. "No holding hands crossing the line. This is a race!" . I thought it was quite funny, because even though I was running bloody hard (for me), I'd never really thought of my level of running/jogging as competitive, but he was absolutely right. It's only a question of attitude. So, we had a bit of a tussle over the last bit, and I just beat him :cool: and, even though we weren't winning any prizes, we were definitely running that day, not jogging..

Tell me about it, i tore my calf trying to beat someone in an XC race, managed to pass him iwht 10 m to go and fell across the line in pain... Must have been funny for anyone watching. I think woddle had a great view.

Woddle

shels4ever wrote: »

Tell me about it, i tore my calf trying to beat someone in an XC race, managed to pass him iwht 10 m to go and fell across the line in pain... Must have been funny for anyone watching. I think woddle had a great view.

:D:D

meathcountysec

Dunboyne AC 4 Mile 2009

Rounding last corner....

Aware of presence coming up on my right shoulder....

Thinks "Not having that"

Increases pace

Thinks "Will I move to right.. hmmm.. too close to Finish.. too many watching"

Increase pace again....

Blighter moves onto shoulder...

Legs going like pistons, red mist descends....

Blighter moves to left...

Thinks "Drat......" nearly trample unsuspecting runner ahead....

Pipped for 400th place....

Thinks "**********"

Available to view here:

http://gallery.me.com/protocolsecurity#100225&sel=400

photos dsc_0507 to dsc_0511

Wouldn't mind but the blighter is my parish priest and I gave him a lift to the race:eek:

plodder

meathcountysec wrote: »

Wouldn't mind but the blighter is my parish priest and I gave him a lift to the race:eek:

The blighter was moving fairly fast in the last of those pictures.

meathcountysec

plodder wrote: »

The blighter was moving fairly fast in the last of those pictures.

And had a particularly manic grin, to boot:D


Pace went from 6.00 min/km to 4.27 min/km over that last burst

shels4ever

meathcountysec wrote: »

And had a particularly manic grin, to boot:D


Pace went from 6.00 min/km to 4.27 min/km over that last burst

He seemed to enjoy that win, next time take his running line and make him have to go around....

umpire bat

You jog your memory and run the rest of the time.

meathcountysec

shels4ever wrote: »

He seemed to enjoy that win, next time take his running line and make him have to go around....

Hope he did. He didn't get his Easter Dues:D