Hdip Query

thesecretforme

I am considering doing a HDip in UCC.

Basically, it's up to me to find my school for placement? Does that involve writing them a letter with your CV asking?

What structure does the HDIP teaching practise follow?

Thanks

Lord TSC

You can write them a letter, as you said, but I found that it's far more profitable if you go into the schools in person and ask to speak to someone. At the very least, physically ring them.

As for the structure, it varies from course to course. In the Maynooth one which I'm starting in december, we have to work in a school Monday and Friday, doing 8 hours over the two days. 6 in your degree subjects and two in "other" non-degree subjects (CSPE, PE, Computers, etc).

That said, I'm afraid if you've not applied for your H.Dip at this stage, you won't get it. Applications were due back in January. Though maybe you're thinking of applying next year and I'm reading you wrong

beemurf

Why must you teach subjects that you didn't do in your degree-sure the teaching council won't let anyone teach a subject you don't have a degree in, so why is it happening in hdip and was that always the case?

It seems pointless to assign hours to a person who isn't and won't be qualified to take the classs.

Is it not taking work that should be there for teachers qualified or qualifying in those areas or for example in the case of PE-students doing a hdip in PE?

Lord TSC

I'm only telling you what Maynooth told me. I've got to do two classes a week in a non-degree subject, and the examples I was given was PE, computers and CSPE. Something to do with furthering your capabilities and making you more diverse I guess.....

beemurf

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

You can write them a letter, as you said, but I found that it's far more profitable if you go into the schools in person and ask to speak to someone. At the very least, physically ring them.

As for the structure, it varies from course to course. In the Maynooth one which I'm starting in december, we have to work in a school Monday and Friday, doing 8 hours over the two days. 6 in your degree subjects and two in "other" non-degree subjects (CSPE, PE, Computers, etc).

That said, I'm afraid if you've not applied for your H.Dip at this stage, you won't get it. Applications were due back in January. Though maybe you're thinking of applying next year and I'm reading you wrong

It seems to be six class periods in your degree area (rather than hours) and a further 2 which should be in your degree area or possibly SPHE ther's no mention of computers, CSPE or P.E?

http://www.nuim.ie/academic/education/Pgde/6.doc

also"As part of learning to teach, each student teacher will teach 8 class periods per week, ideally 4 on Monday and 4 on Friday. At least 6 of these classes must be in the teaching subject(s) as defined by their final degree subject(s). The final 2 classes may be used to expand their teaching repertoire. This may involve teaching a subject that they have studied at third level (provided that this subject is taught to first year pupils only), SPHE, involvement in team teaching a specific interest module in transition year, or another interesting initiative that the teaching practice school is promoting."

http://www.nuim.ie/academic/education/Pgde/5.doc,
last years instructions anyway???

Lord TSC

Gah, for some reason, I always say "hours" instead of "classes". Thats my bad.

As for the PE and CSPE thing, again I say, thats what I was told. They were the examples given, mainly by the principles that I talked to in the various schools.

kingkev100

thanks for your help regarding only teaching 1 subject for my hdip but claiming on my teaching council form that i actually did 2!!
it's just that ucd hdip course insisted that i do 2 subjects for hdip at the start of the year but i only really did 1 and just said that i had 2.
i am worried that me putting my 2 nd subject on my teaching council form, even though i never did any hdip hours in it and this was a criteria from ucd to qualify for the hdip, IS MAKING A FALSE DECLARATION and thus my teaching council registration is NULL AND VOID !!!

peanuthead

beemurf wrote: »

Why must you teach subjects that you didn't do in your degree-sure the teaching council won't let anyone teach a subject you don't have a degree in, so why is it happening in hdip and was that always the case?

It seems pointless to assign hours to a person who isn't and won't be qualified to take the classs.

Is it not taking work that should be there for teachers qualified or qualifying in those areas or for example in the case of PE-students doing a hdip in PE?

Hey, afaik, those 'extra' classes have 2 purposes.

1. Classes like CSPE, SPHE are not subjects that anyone would, say, have at degree level, so teachers take them up in their dip year so that they can teach them too. I would imagine computers falls into the same category, because the majority of computing degree holders are not in the teaching industry.

2. When you qualify and get a job, you will find that, like any job, there will be a certain amount of "all-rounding" to be done. You may not be qualified to teach PE, but you may find yourself supervising the class one day. Its good to have a bit of experience in all areas, and not just be a one-trick pony, so to speak.