clocked - opinions?

comanche

looking for a car at the moment and spotted something that i may be interested in, but one of the photos set alams bells ringing. To my mind this looks like the clutch pedal has a lot of ware on it, indicating a good bit more that 60k miles advertised - any opinions/thoughts?



Thanks

EPM

Or a car that has done 60k miles around town.

Rest of the car doesn't look rough so I'd be thinking last driver rode the clutch a fair bit. Still if it has a service history get it verified

Anan1

EPM wrote: »

Still if it has a service history get it verified

+1

OldmanMondeo

Sure it's an Alfa, probably from push starting the car!!!

As said, probably from driving around town/city centre, rather than long-ish driving.

Anan1

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

Sure it's an Alfa, probably from push starting the car!!!

You'd probably get a better laugh out of that one down the pub.

pcardin

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

Sure it's an Alfa, probably from push starting the car!!!

As said, probably from driving around town/city centre, rather than long-ish driving.

And what car are you driving?

Muckie

Well spotted! Could help in haggling down the price if your heart

is set on it.

Gumbo

rest of the interier looks good, it could also just be a damp stain from washing the car, person gets in amd moves car straight away then gets out and takes photos.

but check it out in person, dont be fooled by camera trickery

smash

I don't really see a problem... the rubber might be a bit perished or maybe it's just dirt! go and drive it, look at the history etc.

End of the day it's an Alfa so a bit of perished rubber on pedal will be the least of your worries!

OldmanMondeo

pcardin wrote: »

And what car are you driving?

One that doesn't need a push start... Jesus lad, it was only a joke, a poor one, but a joke none the less.

Myrddin

Anan1 wrote: »

You'd probably get a better laugh out of that one down the pub.

Or even here, provided you've a sense of humour. I suppose the trick is to realise that Alfa's are not in fact one big adventure. Lets face it, you wont be driving to work whilst manually turning the water pump by hand, while your two mates laugh at you, followed by a hidden support crew. You will in fact be broken down, waiting on the replacment car your insurance will provide, while the Alfa gets towed away to yet another garage for repairs.

Great looking cars, good drive when they are driving, but all in all, dirt.

Saab Ed

EnterNow wrote: »

Great looking cars, good drive when they are driving, but all in all, dirt.

Oh you've gone and started it now. You're not allowed to speak of Alfas badly ( honestly ) in here. :P

EPM

EnterNow wrote: »

but all in all, dirt.

Just like your above post:rolleyes:

comanche

EnterNow wrote: »

Or even here, provided you've a sense of humour. I suppose the trick is to realise that Alfa's are not in fact one big adventure. Lets face it, you wont be driving to work whilst manually turning the water pump by hand, while your two mates laugh at you, followed by a hidden support crew. You will in fact be broken down, waiting on the replacment car your insurance will provide, while the Alfa gets towed away to yet another garage for repairs.

Great looking cars, good drive when they are driving, but all in all, dirt.

Listen mate, that's a great contribution and all that - really useful! However your comments have got nothing to do with the origional question.

There are people out there who want to buy alfas, in the same way there are people out there who want to by almerias or golfs. Others would like to buy a nice car!

Btw do your research on the GTs realibitity have a look at honestjohn.co.uk or parkers.co.uk before making broad sweeping comment.

Please do not turn this into an alfa bashing thread!

Redsoxfan

Re the worn clutch pedal, I had to replace the rubber on both my old 147 and my current GT-it is either a design fault or poor quality components IMHO.

I notice that the orginal mats are missing-from the drivers side anyway-I have just done 61,000 miles in my GT and the drivers side mat is still in great condition. Original mats for the GT are very plush-they cost around £50 in the UK and are worth buying, or at least haggle down the asking price of the car you are looking at above.

The creases on the drivers seat look comparable to my car-I can only assume the previous owner was overweight and used the car a lot!

With that mileage, the question I would be asking is whether the timing belt (and waterpump) were changed.

I also find my GT fairly 'crashy', i.e. the ride is good on the open road, but around our towns and cities crappy streets, it isn't great. Some of this is down to the fact that the original setup isn't great (I'll be upgrading to Konis etc as soon as I can afford it), but it could also be due to wear-something to consider when taking a test drive.

BlackWizard

Alfa cars are sh1te

*runs out of the thread quickly*

P.S To the OP, get in and drive it somewhere then get out and inspect it with a fine tooth comb. It's a buyers market so as you said you can make a low offer on it or another car.

Dabko

Wow, some touchy folks round here when you speak ill of the mothers Alfa. Sure everone loves to poke-a-joke about an Alfa, it has brightend up many a day!!

Wouldnt worry to much about the clutch pedal being worn. We have replaced 2 clutch pedals in a transit in space of 60k miles. As some suggested, if last owner was a clutch jockey, should be lucky there is rubber left at all on it.

Myrddin

EPM wrote: »

Just like your above post:rolleyes:

All true though

comanche wrote: »

Listen mate

Im not your mate.

However you are correct, Im not here to turn this into a bashing thread so my sincere apologies. However if you do decide to buy the Alfa, take notes of these sites;

https://secure.aaireland.ie/personal-membership/default.asp
www.rac.ie

Happy driving, mate:rolleyes:

comanche

EnterNow wrote: »

Im not your mate.

yawn....

EPM

EnterNow wrote: »

All true though



Im not your mate.

However you are correct, Im not here to turn this into a bashing thread so my sincere apologies. However if you do decide to buy the Alfa, take notes of these sites;

https://secure.aaireland.ie/personal-membership/default.asp
www.rac.ie

Happy driving, mate:rolleyes:

I love the random ramblings. Just out of interest do you own/drive an Alfa?

Myrddin

Aside from having worked in an Alfa garage for a year, and having owned a 156 previously, no I dont. Why are you taking this so personally? Does it bother you that I think Alfas reliability is so bad? If it does, then I suggest you stop crying and visit http://www.getalife.ie/ for something to do

comanche

EnterNow wrote: »

Aside from having worked in an Alfa garage for a year, and having owned a 156 previously, no I dont. Why are you taking this so personally? Does it bother you that I think Alfas reliability is so bad? If it does, then I suggest you stop crying and visit http://www.getalife.ie/ for something to do

when and where was your opinion on the reliability of alfas asked for? ... now tottle off back to the playground.

EPM

EnterNow wrote: »

Aside from having worked in an Alfa garage for a year, and having owned a 156 previously, no I dont. Why are you taking this so personally? Does it bother you that I think Alfas reliability is so bad? If it does, then I suggest you stop crying and visit http://www.getalife.ie/ for something to do

Wll fair enough if you have had a bad experience with your own car (had it with a Focus, father with a Nissan both of which known to be generally reliable) but a lot of Alfa problems are down to poor mantainance on the owners part, i.e. self inflicted. Since 2005 on there has been serious gains in terms of quality.

It doesn't bother me in the least that you think they're so bad. But in the midst of your concern for my crying and not having a life it may have escaped your mind that this is a public discussionforum where people often discuss topics. If people didnt have differing opinions it would be boring about here

Gary ITR

Drop it lads.
I won't ask again, stick to the topic at hand

Trinny_Wicklow

Check the service dates and the mileage beside them to see if there are any changes along the way.

Along with the pedals check the steering wheel for any wear.

Check this piece out on the NCA's website about car clocking - http://www.consumerconnect.ie/eng/Hot_Topics/Guides-to-Consumer-Law/Buying-a-car/clocked-cars.html

smash

Just get the car and enjoy it and keep cash aside to cover issues which will arise in future... but buy the decent car and not the diesel... 3.2 V6 petrol all the way

JMcCR

Interesting thread when I'm talking about my 156 with 156,000 MILES on the clock in another thread. Never needed any major work done, just servicing / belts and a couple of bushes.

Just get it checked out and verified OP

By God it's brilliant

:D:D:D

comanche

Test drove the car on Monday - sweet car, sweet price. The dark spot on the clutch in the picture turned out to be the alfa insignia on the clutch. Not a thing wrong with the car - in fact once I got the car out on the open road you couldn't get the smile off my face - thank goodness the salesman wasn't sitting beside me as he would have known there and then that it was the car for me!

The bad news is I decided not to buy - timing of purchase just not right ... :mad: ah well!

-Chris-

Sorry to hear that OP.
Glad it wasn't as shady as you thought it would be though!

PelicanLegend

I'm currently selling my car and was accused of "clocking" the milage based on a worn clutch. What do you say to that? City driving? fat bloke owned the car before me? doesnt sound very scientific
I just said it wasnt clocked and didnt even entertain him.

-Chris-

I'd agree with that - I'd nearly ignore that kind of question.

Is the clutch worn or the clutch pedal rubber?

Do you have a stamped up service history or anything else that would have a dated history of the mileage?

PelicanLegend

thats pretty much what i did. My cars imported so I only have records going back to when I VRT'ed it so unless it was done before i bought it but I wasnt going to get into hypothetical situations like that. I just said he's welcome to have a mechanic take a look, like i did when i bought it.

Its actually still for sale if your interested Chris, over on adverts.ie

smash

Ah the effects of watching wheeler dealer!

If the rubber is warn it must be clocked...
Never buy a car advertised with a ready to go mobile number because it could be stolen and you'll never track them down...

dumbest show out there!

-Chris-

I sell cars, I don't buy 'em! :D

PelicanLegend

Seriously it was like that scene in Zoolander when Derek asks David Duchovny (sp??) "but why male models" for the second time. i sort of did a double take when i realised he's serious