uaim/uait

dlofnep

"Níl ach cupán tae uaim."

"Níl uaim ach cupán tae."

Which is more correct? Or are both considered grammatically ok? I would opt for the first, but I saw the second of a lesson sheet - so I'm thinking I might be wrong.

dlofnep

Also - What's the difference between "something ag táistáil uaim" and "something uaim". Is the latter equally correct and just a shortened version? I say this because I originally used uaim, but hear all the gaeilgoirs include ag táistáil.

conchubhar1

both are correct
the second is changed for emphasis - as in the need is emphasised by being put first

i would just use ''tá .... uaim''

dlofnep

Ok thanks

Micilin Muc

'Níl ach cupán tae uaim'= 'a cup of tea is all I want'.
'Níl uaim ach cupán tae'= 'all I want is a cup of tea'.

dlofnep

Thanks

How would I say - "I would like to thank ye for coming tonight"

Ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghabháil libh ar teacht anocht?

I constantly get confused with the prepositions

I found this list useful..

http://www.hofshi.net/Ceachtanna_MeanRang/IrishPrepositionalPronounChart.pdf

the format is much better in the pdf..

IRISH PREPOSITIONAL PRONOUNS
1
ag at
agam at me
agat at you
aige at him
aici at her
againn at us
agaibh at yous
acu at them


2
ar + asp. on
orm on me
ort on you
air on him
uirthi on her
orainn on us
oraibh on yous
orthu on them


3
as out of
asam out of me
asat out of you
as out of him
aisti out of her
asainn out of us
asaibh out of yous
astu out of them

4
chuig toward
chugam toward me
chugat toward you
chuige toward him
chuici toward her
chugainn toward us
chugaibh toward yous
chucu toward them

5
de + asp. off
díom off me
díot off you
de off him
di off her
dínn off us
díbh off yous
díobh off them

6
do + asp. for/to
dom for/to me
duit for/to you
dó for/to him
di for/to her
dúinn for/to us
daoibh for/to yous
dóibh for/to them

7
faoi + asp. under/about
fúm under me
fút under you
faoi under him
fúithi under her
fúinn under us
fúibh under yous
fúthu under them
8
i + ecl. in
ionam in me
ionat in you
ann in him
inti in her
ionainn in us
ionaibh in yous
iontu in them
9
idir between
idir mé between me
idir tú between you
idir é between him
idir í between her
eadrainn between us
eadraibh between yous
eatarthu between them

10
le with
liom with me
leat with you
leis with him
léithí with her
linn with us
libh with yous
leo with them

11
ó + asp. from
uaim from me
uait from you
uaidh from him
uaithi from her
uainn from us
uaibh from yous
uathu from them

12
roimh before
romham before me
romhat before you
roimhe before him
roimpi before her
romhainn before us
romhaibh before yous
rompu before them

13
thar over
tharam over me
tharat over you
thairis over him
thairsti over her
tharainn over us
tharaibh over yous
tharstu over them

14
trí through
tríom through me
tríot through you
tríd through him
tríthi through her
trínn through us
tríbh through yous
tríothu through them

15
um + asp. around
umam around me
umat around you
uime around him
uimpi around her
umainn around us
umaibh around yous
umpu around them



Common Combinations:
ag an + ecl. ar an + ecl. as an + ecl.
de an = den + asp. do an = don + asp. faoi an = faoin + ecl.
i an = insan + ecl., sa + asp. le an = leis an + ecl. ó an = ón + ecl.
Note: + asp. means that the word following is aspirated, and + ecl. means that the word following is eclipsed.

dlofnep

Thanks, had that list somewhere..

Múinteoir

yeah, it's just an emphasis thing and they are both correct. You get a lot of it in Irish.

Like Tá sé san áit sin and Sin an áit a bhfuil sé both mean the same thing and are both correct, but the second is more emphatic.

There's also no difference in meaning between uaim and ag teastáil uaim.

pog it

dlofnep wrote: »

Thanks

How would I say - "I would like to thank ye for coming tonight"

Ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghabháil libh ar teacht anocht?

I constantly get confused with the prepositions

I think that it's as theacht anocht or as a teacht anocht-
usually you'd hear 'as ucht', etc. for example, but if you were leaving out the 'as ucht', I reckon it's still 'as' instead of 'ar'.

I'm 90% sure on this- hopefully somebody can confirm that or correct me.

dlofnep

cool thanks

that's why the prepositions confuse me, they tend to change in their meaning from sentence to sentence.. i take as as from. but here it means for..

Micilin Muc

'as' is the correct preposition. In the standard, it's 'as teacht' or 'as ucht teacht'.

dlofnep

so as is a shortened form of as ucht?

pog it

as stands by itself after lots of verbs, whereas as ucht is a compound preposition. It's not an intentionally shortened version, but yeah since as is one word, and as ucht is two words then it is I'm not being smart!!

Just came across this

http://gaeilge.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_translate_the_English_preposition_%22for%22_into_Irish

dlofnep

thanks that's really helpful

dlofnep

Does anybody know how to say "I'll figure it out.."

An gal gréine

Bainfidh mé ciall as.

dlofnep

Cheers thanks.

*BUMP*

Sorry to revive a zombie thread but I'm doing the Duolingo Irish course at the moment and have a question about this prepositional pronoun. On Duolingo its use so far is restricted to wanting stuff (like "tá arán uaim" - I want bread) - this is something I don't ever remember seeing much of before, as I would have been more used to "ba mhaith liom arán".

But since uaim/uait..../uathu literally mean from me/from you/..../from them, then how do you differentiate between saying you want something and saying that something is literally from you?

Example: "Tá an peann uaim" means "I want the pen", right? But if instead I wanted to say "the pen is from me" (like if someone opened the pen as a birthday present and I wanted them to know that it was from me*) how would I say that?

*Disclaimer: I do not give people pens for their birthday

Insect Overlord

I'd say in a situation like that you could put the emphasis on yourself by adding a suffix to the pronoun, rather than focusing on the noun.

"Is uaimse an peann" .

The suffix "se/sa" is often added to the end of certain words for the same effect as italic font in English.