URGENT NEW REGISTRATION PROCEDURES

drzhivago

This is for attention of all the NCHDS lurking out there

Some major changes to the medical registration system coming soon and you need to be aware soon or be caught out

Anyone who was fully registered prior to MArch 16th 2009 has been moved over to the new GENERAL REGISTER until JUly

From July on you must either be on GENERAL REGISTER or TRAINEE SPECIALIST REGISTER. To be on trainee register you must be in an individually numbered post accredited by one of the particular colleges and then you will get a registration certificate saying you can only work in that post, cant do a locum at weekend in another post in the hospital or another hospital or GP on call or any of that stuff. You cannot write prescriptions outside the hospital setting.

This bit made me laugh, guidance is that you should apply after March 16th but advised not to apply until JUly 1st????
There is alos an emphasis on not taking a job until your registration is fully sorted (how will it be if you wait till JUly 1st) and the website also says because of the volume of applications (and the 18 page form taht has to be filled in with other GARDA attested documents) it may take up to 8 weeks to process registration.

How is anyone going to be in a job on July 1st at this rate

How are any of the voluntary organisations going to function without the NCHD cover they have been accustomed to at football matches, concerts etc
Who is going to be team doctor for local sports club now if they are not allowed to by the registration they hold

You all need to look at this carefully and very soon.

RobFowl

This is quite a surprise!
I know that quite a number of sports have NCHD's as their medical officers, that is now going to change (not exactly a huge queue to replace them !!). Thanks again to the 5000 who gave Mary Harney their first preference in the last election, cos they have decided the future of Irish healthcare

Pete4779

It's a retarded plan brought in by the only non-medically run Medical Council in the world. This is what "lay majority" gets you.

Of course, it makes a lot of sense if you want to severely restrict the lives and work of doctors, which is basically what the intention is.

Vorsprung

RobFowl wrote: »

This is quite a surprise!
I know that quite a number of sports have NCHD's as their medical officers, that is now going to change (not exactly a huge queue to replace them !!). Thanks again to the 5000 who gave Mary Harney their first preference in the last election, cos they have decided the future of Irish healthcare

I could say a lot about Harney, some positive, most negative. But she had very little to do with this!

RobFowl

bigjimthefirst wrote: »

I could say a lot about Harney, some positive, most negative. But she had very little to do with this!

Don't agree at all Jim.
The new medical practitioners act (which is the cause of this new process) was almost entirely driven and written by her and her advisors.

Vorsprung

RobFowl wrote: »

Don't agree at all Jim.
The new medical practitioners act (which is the cause of this new process) was almost entirely driven and written by her and her advisors.

Actually, I stand kinda corrected - I didn't realise this was new legislation, thought they were new rules put in place BY the Medical Council.

Eerie

Yet another reason to add to why I intend to take my €50,000 government-funded medical education and leave the country when i'm done... (along with about half the Irish graduates in my class!) Things just get worse and worse and worse...

MrCreosote

Just wanted to post my experience with this. I'm reregistering after 4 years, coming back from overseas and the whole process has been headwrecking. Going for the general registration- firstly had to pay €550 for "document examination" on top of the registration fee- basically some guy checking a copy of my passport, then saying overseas police can't verify. Apparently it's necessary to get a stamp from some Garda station where they didn't even look at the relevent pages in the passport!
They say you've never been registered- meaning under the current act. I mean, did they really destroy all records they had prior to March?
This took 3 weeks from the arrival of the documents. Mind you the cash left my account on the day the letter arrived, so at least some part of the medical council is working efficiently.
As far as I can see a complete rip-off to fund FTP inquiries for GPs who say "rumpy-pumpy".

And the whole "only apply after May thing"?? Put in the application on April 30th and you get registered until June 30th only- for the same fee of course. No leeway, no registered for a year from when application accepted. Bloody ridiculous.

Looking forward to giving some feedback to them. After I get registered of course!

RobFowl

I remember when I moved back from the UK had to pay the GMC for a "letter of good standing " 90 quid then the full charge for registering and at the time an extra 800+ euro for them to get me on the specialist register (allegedly so the ICGP could examine my qualifications (basically a certificate of prescribed experience which I had to give them and my MRCGP cert which again I had to supply).
Total jokers.
Any query I ask is always dealt with by a non committal and unhelpful (and slow) response.

Jane5

If you have General REgistration but are taking up a training post in July, do you HAVE to switch over to trainee reg, or can you saty on general reg?? My next hosp sent me a form with trainee reg to complete on it, but I am already on register for General reg. I may need to do some locums next year!! any advice??

drzhivago

Jane5 wrote: »

If you have General REgistration but are taking up a training post in July, do you HAVE to switch over to trainee reg, or can you saty on general reg?? My next hosp sent me a form with trainee reg to complete on it, but I am already on register for General reg. I may need to do some locums next year!! any advice??

Very tricky question JAne
The hospital may want you on the trainee register to fill a trainee post, best to ask them why they sent taht when you are on the general register

Without giving detail away are you on an SHO scheme or SPR scheme, if not you can stay on general

If you are on one of the recognised training schemes you may have difficulty getting on the general register

I am afraid the locums may well be gone for a hop