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Flight Plans?

  • 15-06-2009 9:43pm
    #1
    BravoMike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭


    From listening to ATC I have often heard the Shannon controller ask some aircraft have they a filed flight plan. This led to the question, does every aircraft that takes off from an airport in Ireland have to file a flight plan or is it a case stay under a certain level and out of controled zones and you should be ok?


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  • #2
    Foggy43
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    I always thought you needed one but wasn't there a light aicraft that crashed recently that was missing for some time before the alarm was raised. I believe it wasn't missed as it had no flight plan.


  • #3
    highlydebased
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    If it is VFR (IE light aircraft) then they dont have to file a flightplan if they plan on staying outside controlled airspace. Generally if you go looking to enter controlled airspace you will be asked did you file.

    Obviously all commercial traffic is a different story as it remains in controlled airspace 98% of the time.


  • #4
    BravoMike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭BravoMike


    Is there an altitude restriction in that case without a plan?


  • #5
    StephenM_smc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭StephenM_smc


    Outside the major airports and regionals, generally there is uncontrolled airspace (Class G) up to FL75, where you are permitted to fly there without a flight plan. Above FL75 is Class C where you then require a flight plan.


  • #6
    Beeker
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    Inside controlled airspace or from one control zone to another you must file a plan. Flying in uncontrolled airspace you do not. To fly from a control zone to uncontrolled airspace to land you only need a local flight plan to fly to the control zone boundry at which point your flight plan will be closed, you are then on your own. You can always call Shannon on 127.5 for a flight info service. Shannon say they require you to file for the info service but in reality they will provide you with the service if you are just making an info only call.


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  • #7
    diverdriver
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    In class G you don't even need a radio, never mind a flight plan or a transponder. Good airmanship dictates that you should let other people know where you are by at the very least contacting the nearest ATC unit. Many is the time when I had a nervous moment when ATC warned me that they have an unverified primary signal, 'your eleven o'clock three miles'. It's legal but not neccessarily good practice. In fact it can be downright stupid. I've seen people blast straight through the circuit of active fields as if there was nothing there. With many people using GPS these days there is no excuse for that.

    Here in Ireland we have a lot of freedom compared to many countries. Not only that ATC are often quite accomodating. I have entered controlled airspace without a flight plan or filed one while airborne.


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