Cars bought in 2005, 'roadworthy' ?

Du

Car was bought in 2005 and on the rsa website it says that cars 4 years + have to have an nct disc shown when doing your test.
Does this include my car seeing as its on the 4th year and was serviced last year?
Bit annoying with the backlog of nct's now

don't all cars legally have to have nct anyway since last month?

Permabear

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Du

well considering theres an 8 month waiting list for NCT tests its a stupid system for them to have. Will ring up next week anyway to see if i have to hire instead.

Alanstrainor

Moved from learning to drive

minxie

Du wrote: »

well considering theres an 8 month waiting list for NCT tests its a stupid system for them to have. Will ring up next week anyway to see if i have to hire instead.

Hire what???
as long as you have booked your nct and use that letter as proof
if stopped by guards, you shouldnt have a problem

BoardsRanger

Du wrote: »

Does this include my car seeing as its on the 4th year and was serviced last year?
Bit annoying with the backlog of nct's now

Your car being serviced has nothing to do with the wear and tear of your car. Generally anything rubber can and will wear after a few years . bushings, cv boots, ball joints, tyres.. and a normal service will pick up none of these.
I do agree, however, the backlog for a NCT is a joke. Perhaps ask for a cancellation.

Du

minxie wrote: »

Hire what???
as long as you have booked your nct and use that letter as proof
if stopped by guards, you shouldnt have a problem

hire an instructors car for the test if they don't allow it. Just because it says on their website that it has to be displayed to do the test, not going to cancel it took over 2 months to get this date.

minxie

Du wrote: »

hire an instructors car for the test if they don't allow it. Just because it says on their website that it has to be displayed to do the test, not going to cancel it took over 2 months to get this date.

Silly me didnt realise you were doing your driving test

just check your car cert to check when first registered
you might not need it yet

Guy:Incognito

Du wrote: »

well considering theres an 8 month waiting list for NCT tests its a stupid system for them to have. Will ring up next week anyway to see if i have to hire instead.

Theres only an 8 month (It's actually more like 4) backlog is because people never bothered their hole NCT'ing their cars. This problem is entirely of the publics own making.

The whole point of allowing people to do the NCT 6months before its due first and 3 months before subsequent ones is so you never need drive around without one and blame the government, NCTS or anyone else.

unkel

Stekelly wrote: »

Theres only an 8 month (It's actually more like 4) backlog is because people never bothered their hole NCT'ing their cars. This problem is entirely of the publics own making.

QFT

Greenmachine

Du wrote: »

well considering theres an 8 month waiting list for NCT tests its a stupid system for them to have. Will ring up next week anyway to see if i have to hire instead.

Where is this 8 month figure coming from. Granted there is a backlog since the new rule came in regards to penalty points.

Rowley Birkin QC

Stekelly wrote: »

Theres only an 8 month (It's actually more like 4) backlog is because people never bothered their hole NCT'ing their cars. This problem is entirely of the publics own making.

The whole point of allowing people to do the NCT 6months before its due first and 3 months before subsequent ones is so you never need drive around without one and blame the government, NCTS or anyone else.

Yup, you're on the money there Ste. I would like to apologise to anyone else waiting for not renewing my NCT until I was in fear of getting 5 penalty points.

However, there are always cancellations to be got if you are persistent enough. Ring them on 01-4135900. I got several dates, as in I got an initial date for 3 months away, kept ringing and booking new cancellations until I got a date that was only 4 days away. It's just a matter of persistence.

Gumbo

Du wrote: »

well considering theres an 8 month waiting list for NCT tests its a stupid system for them to have. Will ring up next week anyway to see if i have to hire instead.

i booked my dads car into Ballymun NCT centre for next Thursday! only rang them last Monday, so the 8 month waiting list cant be right???

NCT cert has to be displayed on cars over 4 years old, and if your car is over 4 years old on the date of your test, then you need an NCT cert displayed.

brian076

donegalfella wrote: »

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You can use your 05 car for a driving test up until the 31st December this year without an NCT. Driving testers will only consider 04 cars for NCT purposes, as they have no way of knowing the date in 05 when your NCT is due.

Du

well in the end they were initially giving me a date in August then because I had already booked my driving test she put me straight to the top and it got done yesterday.

galwaytt

Stekelly wrote: »

........because people never bothered their hole NCT'ing their cars. This problem is entirely of the publics own making.

..complete and utter horse****.

If your car tax is up, they send you a reminder. If your income tax return is due, they'll send you a reminder. If your TV licence is up, they'll send you a reminder. That's what you pay the ****ing Civil Service for - to do their ****ing job.

It is not my job to do their job AND pay them for it. If they want that, we can fire 100,000 of the useless b'stds tomorrow.

Of course, the NCT is a private company, with no remit to 'civil service', and isn't it amazing that they can save the Eur1.00 per renewal notice, and no-one ......'noticed' (sic)...???

...speaking of which, this year's front runner for Pulitzer Fiction HERE

....me, bitter? Nah, not a bit of it.....

galwaytt

600,000 tests p.a. x Eur 1.00.

Handy money when you get to keep it. How very NTR.

Del2005

galwaytt wrote: »

..complete and utter horse****.

If your car tax is up, they send you a reminder. If your income tax return is due, they'll send you a reminder. If your TV licence is up, they'll send you a reminder. That's what you pay the ****ing Civil Service for - to do their ****ing job.

It is not my job to do their job AND pay them for it. If they want that, we can fire 100,000 of the useless b'stds tomorrow.

Of course, the NCT is a private company, with no remit to 'civil service', and isn't it amazing that they can save the Eur1.00 per renewal notice, and no-one ......'noticed' (sic)...???

...speaking of which, this year's front runner for Pulitzer Fiction HERE

....me, bitter? Nah, not a bit of it.....

Your forgetting the basic rule that's it's always the drivers responsibility to make sure their vehicle is legal before bringing it onto the road. Not the civil service, Gardai or anyone else. You get reminder notices for motor tax, but if you don't get one and drive with expired tax the car can be taken off you. Same for NCT.

Guy:Incognito

galwaytt wrote: »

..complete and utter horse****.

If your car tax is up, they send you a reminder. If your income tax return is due, they'll send you a reminder. If your TV licence is up, they'll send you a reminder. That's what you pay the ****ing Civil Service for - to do their ****ing job.

It is not my job to do their job AND pay them for it. If they want that, we can fire 100,000 of the useless b'stds tomorrow.

Of course, the NCT is a private company, with no remit to 'civil service', and isn't it amazing that they can save the Eur1.00 per renewal notice, and no-one ......'noticed' (sic)...???

...speaking of which, this year's front runner for Pulitzer Fiction HERE

....me, bitter? Nah, not a bit of it.....

A large percentage of peopel are not driving around wiothout an NCT because they forgot to get the NCT done. They are doing it because not botherign your hole with an NCT has become the norm, it's that simple. Your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Whatever about reminders not being sent and people not remembering the month its due, who forgets for years on end?

If revenue stopped sending motor tax reminders, how long would you drive without tax before you thought "hmmm, I've no tax"? A month? 6 months? 2 years?

Do you forget to service your car? Change the tyres?Check fluids?

Guy:Incognito

galwaytt wrote: »

600,000 tests p.a. x Eur 1.00.

Handy money when you get to keep it. How very NTR.

National toll Roads?

galwaytt

Del2005 wrote: »

Your forgetting the basic rule that's it's always the drivers responsibility to make sure their vehicle is legal before bringing it onto the road. Not the civil service, Gardai or anyone else. You get reminder notices for motor tax, but if you don't get one and drive with expired tax the car can be taken off you. Same for NCT.

You've just proved my point - if they can send reminders for tax, they can send one for NCT.

Stekelly wrote: »

A large percentage of peopel are not driving around wiothout an NCT because they forgot to get the NCT done. They are doing it because not botherign your hole with an NCT has become the norm, it's that simple. Your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Whatever about reminders not being sent and people not remembering the month its due, who forgets for years on end?

If revenue stopped sending motor tax reminders, how long would you drive without tax before you thought "hmmm, I've no tax"? A month? 6 months? 2 years?

Do you forget to service your car? Change the tyres?Check fluids?

You're mixing up two things: deliberate non-NCT'ing, and accidental non-NCT'ing.....that's my point. Deliberately breaking the law is one thing, accidentally falling foul of it is another. And I would suggest that the non-renewal notice is nothing short of underhand.

And who reads their own windscreen documents ? I know I don't. And I similarly don't neglect my tyres/oil/service etc. It's because they are frequent checks. Remembering to look at my NCT disc every 2 years isn't, and isn't frequent.

Same with licences. In the US, they have a simple system - your licence always expires on your birthday. Simple,huh ?

Guy:Incognito

galwaytt wrote: »

And who reads their own windscreen documents ? I know I don't. And I similarly don't neglect my tyres/oil/service etc. It's because they are frequent checks. Remembering to look at my NCT disc every 2 years isn't, and isn't frequent.

If you can remember the other checks, surely the NCT isnt a big one to add to the list?Sure your around the front liftin the bonnet anyway.

galwaytt wrote: »

Same with licences. In the US, they have a simple system - your licence always expires on your birthday. Simple,huh ?

Is this an arguement for or against your points?

The NCT expires on the same day each time.

TBH, you turning something simple into a big thing for the sake of having something to argue about.


I've managed to keep up to date NCT's on 5 cars and Doe's on 2 vans (they dont send renewal notices for them either and theres no handy disc for the window to keep an eye on) over the last 10 years without much scorching of brain cells.

testicle

Two things.

An NCT is not a certificate of Roadworthyness.
If your car was serviced last year, it needs another service this year.

Biro

In an ideal world we wouldn't need an NCT because everyone would be concerned with the mechanical well-being of their cars themselves. But when I see the tyres on some cars I dispair and realise that even every two years might not be enough for NCT for some people.

Carawaystick

BoardsRanger wrote: »

Your car being serviced has nothing to do with the wear and tear of your car. Generally anything rubber can and will wear after a few years . bushings, cv boots, ball joints, tyres.. and a normal service will pick up none of these.

I dunno where you get your car serviced, but if they didn't notice something amiss with tyres or cv boots, I wouldn't be going back...

The NCT website used to state that reminders would be sent, they weren't sending them, I've complained to them several times about this and to the dot about this false advertising, with the usual success....

BoardsRanger

Carawaystick wrote: »

I dunno where you get your car serviced, but if they didn't notice something amiss with tyres or cv boots, I wouldn't be going back...

Usually service it myself mate, but the last time i got it serviced at a VW main dealer, not only did they not notice a cv boot being worn, they also didnt notice the fact that the clip had come off so that the boot wasnt on the hub.

galwaytt

Stekelly wrote: »

..
Is this an arguement for or against your points?

........TBH you turning something simple into a big thing for the sake of having something to argue about.

You're missing the point. They used to send out reminders (common sense). A poster here says they have it on their website (I'll take his word for it...). They currently don't send the reminders - and pocket the money they USED to spend - that's 100,000's of Euros p.a. they're pocketing.
That's 3,000,000 Euros SGS are pocketing.

It shoddy, underhand, and sneaky.

Senna

I cant believe someone is arguing that is't the NCT's fault, for not sending out reminders, that people drive without an NCT. Is this country so full of sheep that we have to be led by someone else, or is it that nobody whats to take any personal responsibility for themselves (and their cars) and rather looks at who they can blame in every situation, when in reality they have only themselves to blame.

Make the point about pocketing the money is all well and good, but it does not dissolve anyone from the rules.

Guy:Incognito

testicle wrote: »

Two things.

An NCT is not a certificate of Roadworthyness.
If your car was serviced last year, it needs another service this year.

and if your NCT was done 2 years ago, it needs another one this year.What the difference bar the time frame?

galwaytt wrote: »

A poster here says they have it on their website (I'll take his word for it...). .

He said they used to have it on their site.