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Woman dies in the hands of a family exorcism

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  • 11-06-2009 12:38pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭


    came across this guys ,,very sad


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    Janet Moses
    Sad story. This woman gets a forced exorcism by family members because she was “acting like a lion”, once they brought a statue that they believed to be possessed into the home. The “exorcism” consisted of pouring liters of water into the woman’s eyes because the family thought there were “jelly fish-like demons” in her eyes. The excessive water pouring lasted for days, causing some water to enter the woman’s lungs and killed her.

    And people say that there is no harm with Reality TV and the messages it conveys.

    A Wainuiomata woman killed during a botched exorcism had been acting like a lion and speaking in “puzzles” after being possessed by spirits from a stolen statue, the High Court at Wellington has been told.

    The Crown has finished presenting its five-week long case against the family of Janet Moses for the 22-year-old woman’s October 2007 death.

    Nine people, including five aunts and an uncle, were charged with manslaughter after water poured on to her face to lift a makutu, or curse, got into her lungs.

    The video-taped police interview of the slain woman’s aunt and co-accused, Angela Orupe, said her niece had been “fighting with her grandmother, acting like a lion and trying to claw her”.

    The makutu targeted her cousin, who took the statue, but affected Moses because she was weaker, Orupe said.

    She described the lion as an “ugly statue”, about 60cm high and “very, very old”.

    Two family members stole it from outside a Greytown pub after a drinking session.

    After bringing the statue home, the family’s children began getting sick and were unsettled, she said.

    Following advice from a kaumatua in Porirua, the family drove in a hikoi, or convoy, to return the statue to the place it was stolen from.

    Driving home after taking the statue back one of the cars in the hikoi got a puncture and had to pull over - violating the instruction the family had to leave and return to the grandmother’s house together, she said.

    That night, family members reported Moses speaking in “puzzles” and having a restless night, Orupe said.

    “Things were coming out of her mouth - saying the same things - ‘money’, ‘the funeral’, ‘the hits’. We couldn’t get her to sleep.”

    She said Moses had spirits in her eyes that looked “like jellyfish - slimy little things”.

    In the ceremony, which lasted several days, the family had poured litres of water into the woman’s eyes to lift the makutu, until she began convulsing.

    Someone then put a spoon into her mouth to stop her biting her tongue, Orupe said.

    Several of the whanau present attempted CPR.

    “You honestly had to be there. To think this sort of thing could happen in this day and age,” she told Detective Mike Philpott.

    She questioned Philpott’s assumption there was a “correct process” for exorcism, saying it was whatever her elders said it was.

    Lawyers representing the nine accused called no witnesses.

    The nine accused, who have all pleaded not guilty, are John Tahana Rawiri, 49, Georgina Aroha Rawiri, 50, Tanginoa Apanui, 42, Hall Jones Wharepapa, 46, Orupe, 36, Gaylene Tangiohororere Kepa, 44, Aroha Gwendoline Wharepapa, 48, Alfred Hughes Kepa, 48, and Glenys Lynette Wright, 52.

    The crown will begin its closing address on Tuesday.
    http://www.ghosttheory.com/paranormal/woman-dies-in-the-hands-of-a-family-exorcism/


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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Yes, its a sad story, and it shows the power a belief system has to make people do very odd and dangerous things.

    Before any of us cast stones at that family, the major religion in this country used to have some strange (albeit non-fatal) ideas, such as 'churching' for new mothers, who without it were stained with sin for having a child and therefore not good enough to enter a church. Or causing grief to mothers who lose an unbaptised child and have the ongoing agony of their own faith telling them that the child is also lost to limbo for eternity. And these were the rules of that church, without getting into the Ryan report and rule breakers.

    I think every belief or religion has its outer edge where it becomes a little to close to being a mentally unstable and like I said, downright dangerous.

    The regular channels of medical intervention for mental illness (which is what I presume that poor girl had) is not without its casualties too. Even though we have moved on from ECT and the more radical drug interventions, people still get fatally misdiagnosed and mistreated in regular psychiatric treatment. It doesnt make such a satisfying headline though.

    The belief that material items can carry curses is widespread, a few months ago it was mentioned in a thread here about books carrying an energy residue. The use of psychometry is meant to tap into these residual energies, and is often used to garner information on previous owners of the item. And sometimes people pick up fear, which imo comes from within, not from the object itself. I think in this case the fear was self perpetuating and each person involved fed the panic that ended up with this girl losing her life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    What if she was possessed though? Obviously still a tragedy.

    Devil's Advocate btw.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    6th wrote: »
    Devil's Advocate btw.
    Ok, if you allow them to stay within their own beliefs (possession) and cures (exorcism), they should have had a medical standby to make sure she was safe, which they clearly didnt. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭VinnyTGM


    Family should have been prepared for stuff like this to happen.
    Very sad though, scary if it was true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭DANNY22XX


    VinnyTGM wrote: »
    Family should have been prepared for stuff like this to happen.
    Very sad though, scary if it was true.

    Its all over the news in New Zealand
    Janet Moses tragedy will not deter Maori from makutu ritual - Tuhoe elder

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    A Tuhoe elder says the guilty verdicts in the Janet Moses manslaughter case will not stop Maori from carrying out Makutu-lifting ceremonies.

    The 22-year-old from Wainuiomata, drowned as family members tried to lift a curse by pouring water down her throat, and in her eyes.

    The verdicts were met with a mixture of dismay and anger.

    Sobs were heard from the public gallery as five of eight people accused of the manslaughter of mother of two Janet Moses were found guilty.

    Family members of those found guilty maintain they have done nothing wrong and became angry at the media attention, swearing at cameras and reporters.

    It was Moses' uncle and four of her aunts who were found guilty of manslaughter, with three other family members acquitted.

    The five were trying to lift a Maori curse, believing there were demons inside Moses because her sister had stolen a stone lion from a hotel in Greytown.

    The defence argued they had misinterpreted what was actually a mental illness after the breakdown of her relationship and grief over her grandmother's death.

    Over an eight hour period they poured water over her, in her eyes and down her throat as well as gouging at her eyes and blowing smoke in them.

    The Reed Maori Dictionary's definition of a Makutu is "bewitched or black magic" - but Tuhoe spokesman Tamati Cairns says it's more like counselling and that the incident will not put Maori off continuing the practice.

    The lifting of Makutu is still used among many Iwi around the country and can involve using water, prayer or waiata.

    Cairns says the incident is a tragedy because the intentions were to help Moses.

    “What's happened is so unfortunate because it's happened as a result of good aspiration but bad practice,” he says.

    The five found guilty will be sentenced in August.
    there is a video on the link live at the court
    http://www.3news.co.nz/News/NationalNews/Janet-Moses-tragedy-will-not-deter-Maori-from-makutu-ritual---Tuhoe-elder-/tabid/423/articleID/108472/cat/64/Default.aspx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Poor Girl. Religion is such a strong force in so many lives. It seems that the psychical condition of the girl during this ritual was left to one side. Hopefully it will at least make him think about the logical aspects and dangers of such a ritual in greater detail. I have to say I dont agree with what was done or how it was done at all, but I feel sorry for the family as well, if what was written was true they thought they were helping. Very Very Sad...

    At the end of the day what if she was taking drugs?


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