Early predictions for next years Hall of Fame

Shaneomac

Any takers? Im thinking Trillionaire Ted Dibiease to start with.

ShawnRaven

Shaneomac wrote: »

Any takers? Im thinking Trillionaire Ted Dibiease to start with.

Would love to see DiBiase in there, don't think i'd want Ted Jr inducting him though. Probably Taker (as DiBiase introduced him to the world at the 1990 Survivor Series), or maybe Austin.

Maybe i'm being naive, but given Savage's WWE DVD release and being published on the alumni section, if that's not teasing for HOF 2010, then nothing else is.

Also induct both British Bulldogs, provided Billington can swallow his pride.

Shaneomac

Is there any pro wrestlers from Arizona(venue of mania 26)? The Superstar is the only one I can think of. Alice cooper for the joke that is celeb Hof I suppose

Degag

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Would love to see DiBiase in there, don't think i'd want Ted Jr inducting him though. Probably Taker (as DiBiase introduced him to the world at the 1990 Survivor Series), or maybe Austin.

Maybe i'm being naive, but given Savage's WWE DVD release and being published on the alumni section, if that's not teasing for HOF 2010, then nothing else is.

Also induct both British Bulldogs, provided Billington can swallow his pride.

Can't really see Taker inducting anyone into the HOF....

ShawnRaven

Degag wrote: »

Can't really see Taker inducting anyone into the HOF....

Depends on the direction his character is going at the time, i guess. Personally I could see him inducting Shawn in the future.

Because

- Marty isn't an option given his most recent shoot interview, he'll be lucky if he can stand straight.
- Sherri is dead
- Nash is working for the opposition
- Bret would rather die

That leaves either Hunter or Taker, Hunter because they're best of friends, but Taker is one of the longest left there, and so is Shawn, it'd be almost fitting.

Jericho could also be an option to induct Shawn I think, though I reckon it'd be Triple H that'd do it.


I doubt Savage would get in. Was it not part of Hogan's legend contract with WWE that if he was put in the Hall of Fame that Savege couldn't be inducted? (or was that just rumor? or am i thinking of the Classic Superstars figure deal? I know I read it somewhere).



I don't think you'd really be able to guess who'll go in, as it always seems to random. I do think, however, that the big star would possibly be guessable (real word?). There's always one big star going in, it seems.


If I had to guess who that was, I'd go with The Rock. If I had to throw out some other names, I'd guess Razor Ramon, Rowdy Roddy Piper, The Big Boss Man, Tatanka and Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake.


I've no idea if they're viable options or not (I believe Beefcake is in the bad books?), but considering they've all had JAKKS contracts, have appeared in the recent Legends of Mania game and are all well-known grapplers, I'd say they'll go in some time in the near future.

Bubs101

Cannot see Randy getting in until Steph takes over, then he's in like a shot . If Roddy isn't in then he must be a shoe in. Proper legend,in the good books and he could die soon enough given his health problems and his recent dropkicks which should make the WWE hasty about getting him in.

Could see Goldberg if they have trouble getting a big name tbh.

Also, if they do induct Shawn, Hunter is the only man to do it. Not only are they best of friends but at the end of the day HBK is going to be remembered for Montreal, the clique and D-X, all of which Hunter was an integral part

Degag

Pipers in it already isn't he?

Degag

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Depends on the direction his character is going at the time, i guess. Personally I could see him inducting Shawn in the future.

Because

- Marty isn't an option given his most recent shoot interview, he'll be lucky if he can stand straight.
- Sherri is dead
- Nash is working for the opposition
- Bret would rather die

That leaves either Hunter or Taker, Hunter because they're best of friends, but Taker is one of the longest left there, and so is Shawn, it'd be almost fitting.

Perhaps but only if he goes back to BikerTaker or some other undead character.... I'm guessing that Paul Bearer would be a nail on certainty to induct Taker? (if he's still alive:eek:)

ShawnRaven

Degag wrote: »

Pipers in it already isn't he?

Yep, he was inducted in 2005 by Ric Flair.

ShawnRaven

Degag wrote: »

Perhaps but only if he goes back to BikerTaker or some other undead character.... I'm guessing that Paul Bearer would be a nail on certainty to induct Taker? (if he's still alive:eek:)

Much as i hate to say it, but they'll probably have Kane induct him. Much as i hate the talentless git (the big red one), he didn't do a bad job with Pete Rose.

Shaneomac

Bubs101 wrote: »

Also, if they do induct Shawn, Hunter is the only man to do it. Not only are they best of friends but at the end of the day HBK is going to be remembered for Montreal, the clique and D-X, all of which Hunter was an integral part

Shawns gotta be remembered for a hell of a lot more than the above hasnt he? At least by me. The rockers, barbershop window, sexy boy, ic champ, bodyguards, heartbreak hotel the guys the best ever in my opinion.

ShawnRaven

Shaneomac wrote: »

Shawns gotta be remembered for a hell of a lot more than the above hasnt he? At least by me. The rockers, barbershop window, sexy boy, ic champ, bodyguards, heartbreak hotel the guys the best ever in my opinion.

My sentiments exactly, he's remembered for a LOT of stuff pre Hunter

Rockers matches with Rose/Summers, Orient Express, Anderson & Blanchard and Rougeaus

Barbershop Window and his matches with Marty, about the only good program he did in 1993 (although Barbershop was 92)

Ladder matches with Scott Hall in 1994 and 1995
First one to win the Royal Rumble after drawing #1 (granted, he only lasted about 35 minutes due to Bret/Nash going overtime earlier in the evening)

Program with Bret in 1996 and then carrying the company on two legs for most of that year.

Yeah... Shawn will only be remembered for DX, Montreal and the Clique.
Sorry Bubs, gotta strongly disagree there.

Not to mention the first ever Hell In the Cell, which Hunter had nothing to do with only showing up at the start and finish.

RAMPAGE1

Honky Tonk Man would be one and get Jimmy Hart to induct him

CMpunked

Mike Tyson to induct Shawn.


If they keep throwing six or seven wrestlers into the HOF every year, pretty soon they are going to end up putting current day wrestlers in, after they have filled up by everyone who *should* be in it.


That said, i think its near impossible to guess whos going in next year.
Easy enough to make some sort of prediction game tho.

If your feelin me shawn?

slicus ricus

Deleted User wrote: »

There's always one big star going in, it seems.


If I had to guess who that was, I'd go with The Rock. If I had to throw out some other names, I'd guess Razor Ramon, Rowdy Roddy Piper, The Big Boss Man, Tatanka and Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake.

The headliner will be either Savage, HBK, or Taker. The Rock would be a viable option but they would be doing well to actually get him given his schedule and general disinterest in pro wrestling.

In terms of secondary guys, I'd like to see Dibiase and Jake Roberts going in.

Shawn Raven wrote:

That leaves either Hunter or Taker, Hunter because they're best of friends, but Taker is one of the longest left there, and so is Shawn, it'd be almost fitting.

There's a good chance Shawn would want Flair to do it as well. I really don't think Taker would be the one to do - firstly because of his character and secondly because I would imagine Shawn would want Hunter or Flair to do it. I know he's said he'd like Bret to do it but I'd say that's in the knowledge that Bret would never do it.

JP Liz

I think Savage might go in next year

Cactus Col

I'm a fan of the Big Boss Man, so of course I'd like to see him go in. But in all honesty wouldn't be sure if he's deserving of a spot in there, unless it's alongside Koko.


Bob Backlund, if he accepted would be a good choice. I'd like to see him in there. I think he is one of the most underrated people to have held the top title. Would have been great to see him in his prime against people like Kurt Angle, Benoit, Finlay. Had some very good matches with Bret Hart in the early 90's.

Wendi Richter should of course be in there, at least due to her part in the rock'n'wrestling connection. And then Cindy Lauper into the celebrity wing.

Jim Niedhart, for his part in the Hart Foundation.

And of course Ted DiBiase

deanodrummer

I personally can't figure out why DiBiase isn't inducted already. Guy's a legend so I'd say he's a shoe-in. Or at least he should be.

Jake Roberts may get the nod too, if he's cleaned up slightly. It's generally a guessing game though. Maybe Honky, he's pretty legendary.

Savage has been added to the Alumni section of WWE.com, and with the dvd being released maybe it's time to put aside whatever differences both parties have and induct the guy. He deserves it.

Long shots imho would be Road Warriors, Bulldogs, maybe Owen and the Anvil, inducted by the current Harts.

I still just really view this whole thing as a gimmick and not an actual ''Hall of Fame'', mainly because of the politics involved and some of the choices made in inducting people who may not actually deserve it. You could really look at the list and argue why at least a third of them shouldn't be there ahead of other wrestlers. Kokos in while there's no DiBiase or Savage?

Bubs101

ShawnRaven wrote: »

My sentiments exactly, he's remembered for a LOT of stuff pre Hunter

Rockers matches with Rose/Summers, Orient Express, Anderson & Blanchard and Rougeaus

Barbershop Window and his matches with Marty, about the only good program he did in 1993 (although Barbershop was 92)

Ladder matches with Scott Hall in 1994 and 1995
First one to win the Royal Rumble after drawing #1 (granted, he only lasted about 35 minutes due to Bret/Nash going overtime earlier in the evening)

Program with Bret in 1996 and then carrying the company on two legs for most of that year.

Yeah... Shawn will only be remembered for DX, Montreal and the Clique.
Sorry Bubs, gotta strongly disagree there.

Not to mention the first ever Hell In the Cell, which Hunter had nothing to do with only showing up at the start and finish.

I never said only but he will clearly be remembered for those three things above the ones that you mentioned. His hell in a cell has been eclipsed by Foley while the ladder match has been by the likes of Edge and Jeff

rossie1977

Bubs101 wrote: »

I never said only but he will clearly be remembered for those three things above the ones that you mentioned. His hell in a cell has been eclipsed by Foley while the ladder match has been by the likes of Edge and Jeff

foley/taker HIAC was nowhere near as good as michaels/taker HIAC, foley/taker has 2 big bumps, outside of that it wasn't a great match

while there may have been better ladder matches since most will be forgotten 10 years from now, michaels and razor at WM10 will take its place alongside stuff like andre/hogan at WM3, rock/hogan WM18 as key matches in wwf(e) history

Penn

I was going to say Undertaker since he'll most likely be retiring soon (given the injuries and the Smackdown: Rest In Piece tour), possibly at Wrestlemania like Flair. But then I think he'll probably be inducted the year after, and have a match at that Wrestlemania to make the streak 20-0

rossie1977

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Program with Bret in 1996 and then carrying the company on two legs for most of that year.

i was just thinking about that time period the other night and wondering will the series of matches michaels put on ppv during that time (feb - sep 1996) ever be bettered in wwe, just off the top of my head:
*owen hart at IYH
*bret hart at WM12
*diesel at IYH (no holds barred)
*davey boy at king of the ring
*Vader at summerslam
*Foley at mind games

Bubs101

rossie1977 wrote: »

foley/taker HIAC was nowhere near as good as michaels/taker HIAC, foley/taker has 2 big bumps, outside of that it wasn't a great match

while there may have been better ladder matches since most will be forgotten 10 years from now, michaels and razor at WM10 will take its place alongside stuff like andre/hogan at WM3, rock/hogan WM18 as key matches in wwf(e) history

When people think about Hell in a Cell they think about Foley's bump and Taker in general. Nothing about match quality is going to change that. On the ladder match front, I think that the E and C, Hardys and Dudleys series overtook the HBK Razor series but I missed the first series so i can't be too confident on that but it's definitely Edge and Jeff who are synonymous with ladder matches. Regardless, Montreal and D-X have a far bigger public and mark noteriety anyway than the ladder and HiaC matches while the Rockers are essentially a footnote in his career. Clique I suppose is debateable but i can't see anyone but Hunter inducting him.

TBH though, I doubt he'll retire before Taker so I'm gunning for Taker or Goldberg as inductees for next year

grames_bond

Bubs101 wrote: »

TBH though, I doubt he'll retire before Taker so I'm gunning for Taker or Goldberg as inductees for next year

goldberg?! im gonna defo say no to that, the stiffest wrester goin, injured too many wrestlers, and his stint in wwe was to worst useless and at best forgettable!

ShawnRaven

Bubs101 wrote: »

When people think about Hell in a Cell they think about Foley's bump and Taker in general. Nothing about match quality is going to change that. On the ladder match front, I think that the E and C, Hardys and Dudleys series overtook the HBK Razor series but I missed the first series so i can't be too confident on that but it's definitely Edge and Jeff who are synonymous with ladder matches. Regardless, Montreal and D-X have a far bigger public and mark noteriety anyway than the ladder and HiaC matches while the Rockers are essentially a footnote in his career. Clique I suppose is debateable but i can't see anyone but Hunter inducting him.

TBH though, I doubt he'll retire before Taker so I'm gunning for Taker or Goldberg as inductees for next year

Between your dismissal of Shawn's career highlights prior to 1997 and suggesting Goldberg for next years HOF. I am going to assume that you are on crack and suggest you submit yourself for drug testing.

Because if Owen isn't getting in for breaking Austin's neck, Goldberg doesn't stand a chance for pretty much retiring Bret.

I want you in by next wednesday, y'hear!

Shaneomac

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Not to mention the first ever Hell In the Cell, which Hunter had nothing to do with only showing up at the start and finish.

In my opinion The best Hell in the Cell. Remember watching it live. Piledriver on the steps was a thing of beauty. Should nearly start a thread on favourite Michaels moments.

ShawnRaven

Bubs101 wrote: »

I never said only but he will clearly be remembered for those three things above the ones that you mentioned. His hell in a cell has been eclipsed by Foley while the ladder match has been by the likes of Edge and Jeff

First off, the first HITC might have been eclipsed, but it wasn't by Foley! That match was horrible, one of it's two major bumps was actually a mistake, for crying out loud, not to mention the unforgivable blade job by taker RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA!

And as for the ladder match, if you were basing it on the first Michaels/Razor match i'd agree, but that second one (Summerslam 95), botched finish aside hasn't come close to being eclipsed in my honest opinion. And had it been, it wouldn't be by anything Edge or Jeff did either, i'd give that one to Eddie/Rey at Summerslam 05. But it's still a way from getting there.

You've missed my point. Shawn pioneered all of these with the company. You throw Hell In The Cell, Ladder matches, Elimination Chamber. Shawn was involved in the first of every single one of them with the company.

Shaneomac

deanodrummer wrote: »

I personally can't figure out why DiBiase isn't inducted already. Guy's a legend so I'd say he's a shoe-in. Or at least he should be.

Jake Roberts may get the nod too, if he's cleaned up slightly. It's generally a guessing game though. Maybe Honky, he's pretty legendary.

Savage has been added to the Alumni section of WWE.com, and with the dvd being released maybe it's time to put aside whatever differences both parties have and induct the guy. He deserves it.

Long shots imho would be Road Warriors, Bulldogs, maybe Owen and the Anvil, inducted by the current Harts.

I still just really view this whole thing as a gimmick and not an actual ''Hall of Fame'', mainly because of the politics involved and some of the choices made in inducting people who may not actually deserve it. You could really look at the list and argue why at least a third of them shouldn't be there ahead of other wrestlers. Kokos in while there's no DiBiase or Savage?

The reason for this is the company is trying to only use one or two huge stars per year to have as the focal point of the ceremony otherwise interest could be lost on the ceremony as a tv event/ratings if they use up all their big names to quickly. Its unfortunate only wrestlers who are included in Vinces video library are allowed to be selected. Im sure theres a few deserving guys from Japan that could be thrown in there for good measure

waltersobchak

wow theres only been about, 10-12 names been mentioned here, sounds like the wwe's running out of marquee names for the hall of fame

Sirsok

ShawnRaven wrote: »

First off, the first HITC might have been eclipsed, but it wasn't by Foley! That match was horrible, one of it's two major bumps was actually a mistake, for crying out loud, not to mention the unforgivable blade job by taker RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA!

i though this hitc was breath taking.at that stage i never see anything in wrestling quite like it,regardless off the mistake, it was unbelievable.you honestly thought this match was horrible?

also for me jake the snake needs to go in along with the bulldoggs and sure why not induct matilda!!!

ShawnRaven

Sirsok wrote: »

i though this hitc was breath taking.at that stage i never see anything in wrestling quite like it,regardless off the mistake, it was unbelievable.you honestly thought this match was horrible?

I don't think it was horrible (compared to some of the terrible HITC matches that came after it, Undertaker/Boss Man anyone?), I just don't think it eclipsed the original, and the mistakes and botches didn't help it.

I still enjoy watching the match today, i just don't think it's as great as the first one. But then, i don't think any of them are, if i'm gonna be brutally honest.

Bubs101

ShawnRaven wrote: »

You've missed my point. Shawn pioneered all of these with the company. You throw Hell In The Cell, Ladder matches, Elimination Chamber. Shawn was involved in the first of every single one of them with the company.

I'm not quoting all of your posts but first off, we all know the reason Owen's not getting in and it's nothing to do with Austin. As far as i'm concerned, Goldberg is an absolute shoe in to get in eventually as the bigger names keep running out. Sure you think Savage is getting in, no way Jose.

And second of all, do you really think that pioneering those matches means more than D-X and Montreal? Seriously?

flahavaj

I'm amazed that people would possibly think anyone but Hunter is going to induct Shawn.

As for wrestlers from Arizona......What about WOYAH?:pac:

Black Lead

If Sting finishes with TNA and retires for good I put money on him being in the WWE Hall of Fame followed by a DVD collection of his NWA/WCW matches with a documentry I know he has said he wouldn't work with the WWE but I would say a hall of fame with a wrestlemania appearence will happen. I would think that the WWE would try and get him to have a match at wrestlemania but I'm doubtful of that.

ShawnRaven

Bubs101 wrote: »

I'm not quoting all of your posts but first off, we all know the reason Owen's not getting in and it's nothing to do with Austin. As far as i'm concerned, Goldberg is an absolute shoe in to get in eventually as the bigger names keep running out. Sure you think Savage is getting in, no way Jose.

Given that WWE are going to be making money off Savage, and considering VERNE F*CKING GAGNE got into the WWE popularity contest of a HOF, Savage is a prime candidate by comparison. And Austin is one of the big reasons why Owen didn't even get into the proper HOF to begin with (aside from drawing no f*cking money)

Goldberg won't get in, unless Vince really, and i mean REALLY wants to spite Bret Hart.

And second of all, do you really think that pioneering those matches means more than D-X and Montreal? Seriously?

Point out where i said that please? I think they're of equal importance. Without SOMEONE to pioneer it, the matches you speak of would not have followed.

ShawnRaven

Black Lead wrote: »

If Sting finishes with TNA and retires for good I put money on him being in the WWE Hall of Fame followed by a DVD collection of his NWA/WCW matches with a documentry I know he has said he wouldn't work with the WWE but I would say a hall of fame with a wrestlemania appearence will happen. I would think that the WWE would try and get him to have a match at wrestlemania but I'm doubtful of that.

Sting was a key reason as to why the NWA/WCW stayed in business, I'm not so sure if he'll ever work a match in WWE. But i could see WWE trying to stick him into their HOF in the future, seeing as they TRIED to get a DVD compilation about him going a couple of years back but the project got scrapped.

Machismo Fan

ShawnRaven wrote: »

I'm not so sure if he'll ever work a match in WWE.

Am I the only one who finds that admirable?

ShawnRaven

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Am I the only one who finds that admirable?

No, i'm the same. Sting was offered a position with WWE on more than one occasion and he turned it down every time. There's a lot to be said. I just wish he'd spend more time putting over younger talent in TNA, just like Flair put him over when he was a rookie in the late 80s.

Rather than feuding with the same old farts week in and week out.

Handsome Bob

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Also induct both British Bulldogs, provided Billington can swallow his pride.

I don't know, I mean it could be a bit of a train wreck. I saw the Dynamite Kid on some Benoit special, he looked all over the place. Slurring his words and in a wheelchair, would WWE take the punt on him?

Shaneomac

LZ5by5 wrote: »

I don't know, I mean it could be a bit of a train wreck. I saw the Dynamite Kid on some Benoit special, he looked all over the place. Slurring his words and in a wheelchair, would WWE take the punt on him?

Not for a couple of years at least me thinks.

Degag

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Am I the only one who finds that admirable?

In a way i do too but in another way i think he might be only fooling himself.