A letter from god to Man

Helix

i'm not entirely sure how to talk this video into a post. since im an atheist it's only really the ideas and presentation of the that really appeals to me. but its quite possible that its content might get some debate going amongst theists. its fairly well balanced and intelligent and raises some decent points i think

maybe the mods wont deem it relevant so lock away if so, but imo theres no harm discussing a bit of popular culture that deals with some of the things that are discussed on here regularly.

also its a really really good track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4467CI4y0M

Hey There, how, how’s it going?
Long time no see.
I know I haven’t been around much lately
But… it didn’t seem like you wanted me to be
The last time I sent down a message you nailed it to the cross
So I figured I’d just leave you to it, let you be your own boss

But I’ve been keeping an eye on you, I have, and it’s amazing how you’ve grown.
With your technological advances and the problems you’ve overthrown,
And all the beautiful art you’ve created with such grace and such finesse,
But I admit there are a few things I’m afraid have impressed me less.

So I’m writing to apologize for all the horrors committed in my name,
Although that was never what I intended, I feel I should take my share of the blame.
All the good I tried to do was corrupted when organised religion got into full swing,
What I thought were quite clear messages were taken to unusual extremes.
My teachings taken out of context to meet the agendas of others,
Interpretations taken to many different ways and hidden meanings discovered

Religion became a tool, for the weak to control the strong
With all these new morals and ethics, survival of the fittest was gone
No longer could the biggest man simply take whatever he needed
‘cause damnation was the price if certain rules were not heeded

Some of the deeds committed in my name just made me wonder were I went wrong.
Back at the start when I created this, the foundation seemed so strong.
See all the elements were already here, long before I began, I just kind of put it all together
I didn’t really think out a long-term plan.

I made the sun an appropriate distance and laid the stars across the sky
So you could navigate the globe or simply watch the sun rise
I covered the earth with plants and fruits,
Some for sustenance and some for beauty
I made the sun shine and the clouds rain so their maintenance wasn’t your duty
I tried to give each creature its own attributes without making them enveloped
I gave you all you all your own space to grow and in your own way space to develop

I didn’t know such development would cause rifts and jealousy
Cause you to war against each other and leave marks on this planet indelibly
You see, I wasn’t really the creater, I was just the curator of nature
I want to get something straight with homosexuals right now: I don’t hate ya
I was a simple being that happened to be the first to wield such powers
I just laid the ground, it was You that built the towers

It was You that invented bombs, and the fear that comes with them
And it was You that invented money, and the corrupt economic systems
You invented terms like just-war and terms like friendly fire
And it was You that didn’t know when to stop digging deeper, when to stop building higher
It was You that exhausted the resources I carefully laid out on this earth,
And it was You that even saw these problems coming but accredited them little worth
It was You that used my teachings for your own personal gain
And it was You that committed such tragedies, even though they were in my name

So I apologize for any mistakes I made, and when my words misconstrued
But this apology’s to mother nature, cause I created you

mewso

So God is a Londoner. I knew it.

Helix

hahaha

wonder which team he supports

BrianCalgary

Helix wrote: »

hahaha

wonder which team he supports

Since he's from London, it has to be Man U.

I'll read the full text after I get some sleep.

JimiTime

Helix wrote: »

hahaha

wonder which team he supports

:rolleyes:Obviously the team most Londoners support.............Man Utd:)

EDIT: Dang you Brian, ye beat me to it /Shakes fist

homer911

God doesnt make mistakes, so I dont believe he has anything to apologise for..

BrianCalgary

JimiTime wrote: »

:rolleyes:Obviously the team most Londoners support.............Man Utd:)

EDIT: Dang you Brian, ye beat me to it /Shakes fist

nana na na na :P

Some points are pretty good. I disagree where God says, "I didn't know".

I like when He speaks out against things done in his name and the way he states how his word gets twisted for self serving purposes.

Helix

homer911 wrote: »

God doesnt make mistakes, so I dont believe he has anything to apologise for..

people do and in the song hes apologising for what people did by proxy

The Mad Hatter

Hm...I wonder how Radiohead would feel about their song being used as backing music for a video about God...?

Helix

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Hm...I wonder how Radiohead would feel about their song being used as backing music for a video about God...?

im sure they have no problem with it since they licensed it and let scroobius pip and dan le sac put it on their album as well as release it as a single lol

The Mad Hatter

Helix wrote: »

im sure they have no problem with it since they licensed it and let scroobius pip and dan le sac put it on their album as well as release it as a single lol

Would that they - and not EMI - owned the copyright. They weren't too happy about that best of CD that EMI released to compete with In Rainbows...

Huh? Wussat? Topic?

Húrin

it's just a song. not much of a catalyst for debate.

Helix

Húrin wrote: »

it's just a song. not much of a catalyst for debate.

i dunno, the church and music have a bit of a history. augmented fourth anyone?

kelly1

Helix wrote: »

i dunno, the church and music have a bit of a history. augmented fourth anyone?

Wasn't that the devil's interval?

Helix

kelly1 wrote: »

Wasn't that the devil's interval?

yup, thats the one

Splendour

Helix wrote: »

people do and in the song hes apologising for what people did by proxy

I agree with Helix and heck it's Radiohead so even if they didn't get it 100% right, I'd forgive them anyway 'cos they're the business...:)

Seaneh

It's not radiohead, the song uses a radiohead sample.

Seaneh

I really like this song. Some of it is kinda iffy but over all it has a great message.

PDN

This kind of reminds me of the bit in Blue Like Jazz where Donald Miller shares how he and a friend set up a confessional booth on campus during the College rag week. Anytime someone visited their booth (usually the worse for wear through drink) Miller and his friend would start confessing to them! They would apologise for the Crusades, the Inquisition etc. and for the way in which the Church has generally been so bad at sharing God's wonderful message of love and forgiveness.

Fanny Cradock

Sounds like a good read.

Splendour

PDN wrote: »

This kind of reminds me of the bit in Blue Like Jazz where Donald Miller shares how he and a friend set up a confessional booth on campus during the College rag week. Anytime someone visited their booth (usually the worse for wear through drink) Miller and his friend would start confessing to them! They would apologise for the Crusades, the Inquisition etc. and for the way in which the Church has generally been so bad at sharing God's wonderful message of love and forgiveness.

Isn't Don Miller great! I loved when they did that, especially the image of him smoking his pipe while in the booth!

Splendour

Seaneh wrote: »

It's not radiohead, the song uses a radiohead sample.

Ahh... I assumed 'twas Radiohead. Thought they'd done a re release...