Wiggle Discount Scheme

irishmotorist

As part of my Cayo purchase, I asked Wiggle if they'd be in a position to offer me a discount. Unfortunately, the said that it wouldn't be possible. As to the question about a Boards.ie discount, they gave me details of their partner scheme - for clubs and teams. I'm not sure if we'd be able to do anything with it on the Boards site, unless we put banners into our signatures or something. Maybe some of the webheads here can invisage this type of thing better than me?

Details of the scheme are here:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/h/option/Partner

Acoustic

support irish business

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Nietzschean

doesn't really look like the thing that might be usefull for us? unless we want to start pointing new posters at banner ad's so they can go look on crc and wiggle ?

AstraMonti

Acoustic wrote: »

support irish business

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Out of topic and my reply will be out of topic too.

Why? It's my money that i work hard for and i will spend them as i find appropriate. On my recent bike build, the local irishs shop could not come near the prices i got online. If they want to get competitive let em moan to the goverment for taxes and the rest.

On Topic: It would be nice if we could have the discount

Chips Lovell

AstraMonti wrote: »

Why?

+1

TinyExplosions

el tonto wrote: »

+1

+1

Acoustic

AstraMonti wrote: »

Out of topic and my reply will be out of topic too.

Why? It's my money that i work hard for and i will spend them as i find appropriate. On my recent bike build, the local irishs shop could not come near the prices i got online. If they want to get competitive let em moan to the goverment for taxes and the rest.

On Topic: It would be nice if we could have the discount

tell me this tho , when u break ur chain or need a service or lights etc

and irish shop is good enough for you then isnt it ??

wouldnt it be better to keep people in jobs ??? plus if u had a regular bike shop i bet they'd let u pay on a tab , so u pay when u can etc not stretching urself

Vélo

Acoustic wrote: »

tell me this tho , when u break ur chain or need a service or lights etc

and irish shop is good enough for you then isnt it ??

wouldnt it be better to keep people in jobs ??? plus if u had a regular bike shop i bet they'd let u pay on a tab , so u pay when u can etc not stretching urself

Where does this tab you're talking about?

irishmotorist

I agree with supporting your local business - I think it's important, but I also need to support myself - that's also important. While I'm prepared to pay a bit over the odds to support local, but I'm not happy just throwing money needlessly down the jacks.

Acoustic

Aquinas73 wrote: »

Where does this tab you're talking about?

not saying any names

but trust me it does happen , if you buy regular you can get credit , u just drop in once a week and throw what u want off ur account

irishmotorists : im just saying most people do that anyway and do they care ??? when they pay a fortune on boose and then complain ???

it all comes down to preference i suppose

I'd like more discounts please. Plus a clubhouse too for when the Boards Cycling Club gets set up.

Chips Lovell

Acoustic wrote: »

tell me this tho , when u break ur chain or need a service or lights etc

and irish shop is good enough for you then isnt it ??

Actually, I do all my own work because Irish shops within striking distance of where I live have proved not good enough for me. But that's beside the point. If I decide to bring my bike in for a new chain, then I'm paying for the parts and labour. It's not like the people in the shop are doing me a favour?

Acoustic wrote: »

wouldnt it be better to keep people in jobs ???

That's not how economies work. You don't blindly give your money to companies in order to keep people in jobs.

lukester

I'll happily use any local shop that offers good service, and/or has competitive prices.

There are a handful of shops in Dublin that I know of that fulfil the first criterion. One or two that fulfil the second.

I don't mind paying a small premium on goods to support a good local shop.

AstraMonti

I am not neglecting the lbs, i have spent a fair amount of money there too, but apart from one-two shops all the others have crazy prices for the same things. The stem i wanted to buy, i even found it 100euro more expensive on a shop.

lukester wrote: »

I don't mind paying a small premium on goods to support a good local shop.

I am totally with you on that. I do all my services and buy all my little bits and pieces (overpriced yes) at Joe Daly.

ednwireland

Acoustic wrote: »

support irish business

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OT i for one am sick of seeing this whenever someone starts talking about buying anything is there anyway of filtering it out (i for one do most of my shopping in the town i live in, apart form bike bits cos there is a bike shop and the owner is a misery and wont order any "fancy" stuff in, anything sora and above is fancy in his opinion)
so CRC and bikedock and occasionally wiggle are my local shops. i will buy a new bike soon and it wont come from an irish retailer. end OT

niceonetom

I'd like to see the next round of Boards kit with some sponsorship on it. It would be more pro. A 10% discount on future purchases wouldn't really cut it for me though - I'd want, at the minimum, free bikes for all regular posters and a team-car.

How many bikes have we sold for wiggle? A million at least. They owe us.

@Acoustic - We're in the middle of the financial apocalypse, a mass extinction event, a climate shift that will drown us all, and big fcuking brother has just started yet again - we are, as a civilisation and a species, completely screwed. I will not be made to feel guilty for shopping around when I need a new bloody chain. And I service my own bike too.

ROK ON

el tonto wrote: »

Actually, I do all my own work because Irish shops within striking distance of where I live have proved not good enough for me. But that's beside the point. If I decide to bring my bike in for a new chain, then I'm paying for the parts and labour. It's not like the people in the shop are doing me a favour?



That's not how economies work. You don't blindly give your money to companies in order to keep people in jobs.

I would like to support Irish shops if they are somewhat competitive, convenient, have good service.
IN the past 3 weeks I have had to re-evaluate. What should have been a simple bike service, has messed up my gearing. Also, my chain is full of gunk, when I would like to keep a gleaming clean chain. Surely its not that difficult for a full time bike mechanic to tune up some gears and clean a chain after a service.
On that basis, I may have to follow Tonto's advice and actually learn how to service a bike (other than replacing brakes/tubes, which I can do).
But I have found that sometimes that the Irish bike shops are more than competitive on price with online - you just have to search a bit harder.

Also Tonto on your 2nd point, (blindly throwing money . . .), thats excatly how the Japanese economy works (or doesn't work) - but almost everyone is employed.

ROK ON

niceonetom wrote: »

How many bikes have we sold for wiggle? A million at least. They owe us.

@Acoustic - We're in the middle of the financial apocalypse, a mass extinction event, a climate shift that will drown us all, and big fcuking brother has just started yet again - we are, as a civilisation and a species, completely screwed. I will not be made to feel guilty for shopping around when I need a new bloody chain. And I service my own bike too.

Feck the bikes, a team car would be great. We have more bikes than we can use at any one time - we dont have any team car.

Also, the global economy just aint as bad as you make ot at the moment. Things have sort of turned a corner so to speak.

ednwireland

ROK ON wrote: »

Feck the bikes, a team car would be great. We have more bikes than we can use at any one time - we dont have any team car.

Also, the global economy just aint as bad as you make ot at the moment. Things have sort of turned a corner so to speak.

you might have enough bikes, i have no where near enough (and not enough to buy any more)

wiggle offers at the mo £21.08 0n 5 conti inner tubes, £17.95 on 5 vittoria road inner tubes

irishmotorist

In attempt to drag this back on-topic and get advantage of Wiggle discounts (whether we choose to use them or not), how well would it work if we created a sticky thread and put the link and banners and stuff in there?

In fact, we might get other suppliers (CRC, CSC etc.) to agree to something similar if this worked.

ROK ON

@ Irishmotorist - I think you are addressing this to an audience that cannot help you on this one.

I would imagine the the management of Boards.ie, are the people to ask.
Is it not the case that banners are paid for? Whether people some, none or all of us want this maybe less relevant than whther or not it can be done. Just a thought.

Lumen

Firstly, buying from Wiggle etc keeps web designers, postmen and couriers in employment. Won't someone please think of the posties!

Secondly, this.

Thirdly, If all the local bike shops go out of business, a new more efficient model would arise, which doesn't involve shops being saddled with masses of depreciating stock due to stupid conditions imposed by distributors/manufacturers.

Fouthly, if boardsies needs a new sponsor, it must be some obscure local insurance company, credit union, floor tile manufacturer etc that no-one has ever heard of, with a name that is difficult to pronounce. It's probably a Euro rule.

Some suggestions:

- Aughinish Alumina (metallurgical and tricky name)
- Allergan Medical (they make fake breasts!)
- Eurohypo Europaische Hypothekenbank SA (for obvious reasons)
- Rottapharm (ditto)

That's all, thanks.

ROK ON

Actually, if I were an online retailer, I would have to think very clearly if I were to offer discount schemes to an online comunity.

Think about it:
(1) most of them already have banners here (so paid for),
(2) a lot of threads advertise products etc from them,
(3) the nayture of discussion here (and in other forums) generates business for them,
(4) Very few dissatisfied customes it would seem.

On the basis of this, why would a business spend money to attract a base of happy customers that they already have? The reality is with an online retailer our loyalty is to the price and availablity, not the brand name IMO.
But I stand to be corrected.

TinyExplosions

I like the suggestions of sponsors

Or we could get the mods to cough up more dough, as they are our 'main' sponsor

ROK ON

@Lumen - cant be Eurohypo. They are in even more trouble than Anglo Irish Bank.

Lumen

ROK ON wrote: »

@Lumen - cant be Eurohypo. They are in even more trouble than Anglo Irish Bank.

It's more Euro if they go bust. We can then fade out their logos and wrangle with the UCI.

Jawgap

I'd happily support local businesses when they start reciprocating. I don't mind paying a premium for a local service, but when the premium rises to over 10% with respect to the price, then that starts to become a rip-off.

As for the jobs - when I have had occasion to use the LBS most of the time I've been dealing with continentals (a lot of Eastern Europeans) - great service and good work, but I'd imagine a certain amount of their wages are remitted back to their "home."

Finally, if we really want to support the Irish economy and Irish jobs we should just give up cycling. I'm not aware of any major Irish bicycle manufacturer? So every bike bought supports jobs of frame and component manufacturers around the world. I'd love to see a breakdown but I'd be willing to bet that the government get the biggest chunk of any money spent on a bike here - is that supporting the economy?

irishmotorist

ROK ON wrote: »

@ Irishmotorist - I think you are addressing this to an audience that cannot help you on this one.

I would imagine the the management of Boards.ie, are the people to ask.
Is it not the case that banners are paid for? Whether people some, none or all of us want this maybe less relevant than whther or not it can be done. Just a thought.

It looks to me (though I've never had a business head) that all we'd need to do is use a link that they give us which identifies the clicker as originating from boards.ie then they will send the discount back monthly as cash. The logistics of divvying out the discount to the correct owners bit might be awkward to figure out, but I'm sure it's manageable.

As putting a banner across the top of the page might not go with the mgt of Boards.ie, putting it in a sticky that's always available on this forum might be the way to go.

72hundred

Here's a little gem of info that I got off CRC in a email;

A bulk order of substantial value we will always try to offer an additional discount where possible...A rough outline for additional discount would be;
Order Value and Additional Discount
£1000+ =2.5%
£2000+ =7.5%
£3000+ =10%

ROK ON

@72oo, what that is suggesting to me, is that there is room for collusion on our part, with say monthly/quarterly orders.

We decide what we want, pay a person via paypal. That person orders, the discount is shared in terms of the price that we get. Just an idea - would require admin/hassle, but for some folk it maybe worth it.

Given that scott has all of the stiff in place to do this, maybe we should nominate him.;)

lukester

That reminds me of a US motorcycle forum I used to frequent. They would regularly organise 'group buys' of commonly needed stuff to obtain a discount. There'd just be a sticky for the items in question, for people to add orders.

Jawgap

Two points -

If a "group buy scheme" was to be implmented then maybe once the list has been finalised the list co-ordinator could tout it around a few retailers and LBSs to see where the best deal might be had.

Second, if someone was planning a major purchase (a bike!) maybe we could piggy back on that to help them get a good deal on their bike and us get kit at a reduced price. The bike purchaser would probably have to organise and again it could be sourced through an LBS or some other retailer.

Just a thought.......

penexpers

Jawgap wrote: »

As for the jobs - when I have had occasion to use the LBS most of the time I've been dealing with continentals (a lot of Eastern Europeans) - great service and good work, but I'd imagine a certain amount of their wages are remitted back to their "home."

I would guess a bike shop makes most money from servicing. My bike shop charges 30 euro per hour labour, which I would imagine 10 euro (at most) would go to the mechanic in terms of wages. I think other shops charge a lot more but I doubt that most mechanics would be on more than the minimum wage. I don't think the mark up on parts/bikes is all that great.

DirkVoodoo

I support LBS within reason.

Helped a friend with a VERY basic tube change yesterday in UCD, he went over to buy a new tube from the bike shop and asked how much to fit it. He was quoted 12 euro for what took me about 5 minutes. If I was being paid €144 for swapping out tubes I would be a very happy bunny.

If, on the other hand, he had offered to do it for free, he may have earned a long term customer. When my tyre blew out last year on the Sean Kelly (ahh, that old story again, I think I tell it every saturday, sorry!) and Ray came along to save the day, he charged me €35 for the new tyre and fitted it and pumped it without any bother. The tyre (Vittoria Evo Corsa CX) is €35 online, cheapest I have seen. He didn't try and screw me out of more money, or just hand me the tyre and say "fitting is an extra €15". I have made a promise to myself that my next big purchase (hopefully campagnolo gruppo, might be a while though) will be made in that store.

Not digging up old topics and money/exchange rates aside, but if I get treated badly in a store, why should I not make my purchases from the comfort of my own home, knowing that CRC, wiggle, etc. have been nothing but stellar since I started using them?

blorg

I don't think €12 to replace a tube is exactly crazy (presuming it is including the tube.)

€7-8 is pretty standard for a tube in a LBS, with €4-5 for the fitting.

The shop in UCD is generally pretty decent as shops go.

Try getting Wiggle to fix your puncture!

Acoustic

what if i could get people 10 % off ??? maybe more depending on size of order ?????

by the way im not advertising ok

i just mean if people on here gave me 1 big order for stuff i could sort discount ??

penexpers

Acoustic wrote: »

what if i could get people 10 % off ??? maybe more depending on size of order ?????

by the way im not advertising ok

i just mean if people on here gave me 1 big order for stuff i could sort discount ??

Sounds like you are advertising tbh. And your constant shilling is starting to get sort of tiring.

72hundred

Acoustic wrote: »

what if i could get people 10 % off ??? maybe more depending on size of order ?????

by the way im not advertising ok

i just mean if people on here gave me 1 big order for stuff i could sort discount ??

10% off an expensive price won't compare with 10% with CRC's already discounted prices.

Anyways, the info I posted above was from CRC in an email, so you'd have to confirm it again before ordering just in case.

Ryaner

Since Wiggle is on topic here, does anyone ever get anything from Wiggle in any normal amount of time? I gave up waiting on my order from 10 days ago and ordered the replacement tyre from CRC and it'll probably arrive before the Wiggle stuff.

Also, someone needs to convince cyclesuperstore to take notice of their website. Their prices are pretty damn close and sometimes better than Wiggle/CRC. I'd order except that I hate waiting on things to be delivered and they seem to go days without evening looking at the orders.

zzzzzzzz

Ryaner wrote: »

Since Wiggle is on topic here, does anyone ever get anything from Wiggle in any normal amount of time? I gave up waiting on my order from 10 days ago and ordered the replacement tyre from CRC and it'll probably arrive before the Wiggle stuff.

Also, someone needs to convince cyclesuperstore to take notice of their website. Their prices are pretty damn close and sometimes better than Wiggle/CRC. I'd order except that I hate waiting on things to be delivered and they seem to go days without evening looking at the orders.

Yeah - wiggle are usually quick enough - within 7 days if the items you ordered are in stock.

Ryaner

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

Yeah - wiggle are usually quick enough - within 7 days if the items you ordered are in stock.

Ordered on the Sunday night. Got an email on the Monday at 7am to say it had been processed. When I emailed them on the Wednesday about a website bug, they said it was already shipped.Same thing happened with last two orders.

Most of this order is going back now. Needed most of it for the W200 and ended up buying lesser quality bits from the LBS and now again from CRC.

I'm still waiting on an order from CRC from Monday the week before. There was some problems with the Nuun tablets not being in stock so eventually I pulled them from the order (after some e-mails back and forth), and then from looking at the order it looks like they put the lot in with the normal mail not the 24 hour parcelforce thing (which my original order said it would be - didn't pay extra since if was over 50 quid but still). Was hoping they'd arrive last Friday but no sign yet of them.

Jawgap

I've found Wiggle's delivery times to be acceptable - usually 3 to 4 days which is about a day slower than CRC. So far no problems.

On the off-topic subject of LBS's I'd happily give them more of my hard earned cash if they could get their prices down and, in certain specific and isolated cases, improve their customer service.

Dónal

Dónal wrote: »

I'm still waiting on an order from CRC from Monday the week before. There was some problems with the Nuun tablets not being in stock so eventually I pulled them from the order (after some e-mails back and forth), and then from looking at the order it looks like they put the lot in with the normal mail not the 24 hour parcelforce thing (which my original order said it would be - didn't pay extra since if was over 50 quid but still). Was hoping they'd arrive last Friday but no sign yet of them.

Woo, just arrived.

Nietzschean

Dónal wrote: »

Woo, just arrived.

Gratz about time, still waiting on mine...they only shipped it on monday though(took em a week to ship )

blorg

I have bought a fair bit online particularly in the sales. With the bikes in particular unfortunately the LBSes were coming in generally around twice the price I was paying online and that was just too much.

Recently though I have noticed local shops becoming more competitive and I will generally ask for a quote there before buying something online. If it is within 10% or so I am happy to buy from the local shop. Sometimes it has actually even been cheaper. Many LBSes will give a bit of a discount if you are a regular.

Ryaner

My wiggle stuff just arrived. Seems parcelforce were to blame. Took 2 days to get to the international delivery hub in the uk, then another 5 to get to Ireland. Wiggle had put it on their euro 48 package too so I guess I can't exactly fault them for it.

lukester

Have found Wiggle a touch slow too, took about a week to get my last item from them, was hoping to have it for the W200.

CRC have been noticeably quicker, Prendas have been very speedy too.

But Slane Cycles have been stellar, next day delivery via Parcelforce. Granted they are not across the water.

I bought a good few bits in CSS on Saturday and had a proper look around, their prices are the same as/cheaper than Wiggle/CRC for some things, Assos gear and nutrition stuff were the things I noticed. They also have their loyalty scheme which appears to give you 10% off most things.
I'll use them again, found staff helpful, in spite of being v busy, but it would be handy if they had a good online store or kept the inventory synched with their stock.