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terrible runner - looking to get a good starting point

  • 08-06-2009 2:38pm
    #1
    Sniipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭


    I was looking at the Gait thread and I think I will go and get it done. I'm based in Galway so Elverys are the only ones around.

    Currently I'm running on some waterproof asics (origionally bought last year for Gael Force).

    I am a terrible runner, and I find it difficult to run even 5K. I can cycle ok and I can keep my heart rate relatively low. But when I start running I'm in trouble. My heart will race up to 180's (I'm 28). I feel burning below my calves.

    I know I'm running incorrectly because I was told to try and run on my toes, but find I end up running on the heel then outer foot then toe. Because of this I'm feeling a little sore in my knees, probably from not hitting the ground correctly

    I know not all of this can be corrected by a runner, but that I guess should be my first port of call. After that, I guess I will need to start running correctly, which I've been told is to run on my toes/top of my foot and then bounce off my heel.
    I guess to do this I'll have to perhaps build up muscle in my ankles/balance? squats/pushing off my toes?

    Does this seem fair? Or am I on the right line?


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  • #2
    hunnymonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    Sniipe wrote: »
    I was looking at the Gait thread and I think I will go and get it done. I'm based in Galway so Elverys are the only ones around.
    Elverys can be a bit hit and miss. Their stock can be good but knowledge is sometimes a bit off. Might be an idea to call them up beforehand and ask who the best person to see would be and go in when they are working.
    Sniipe wrote: »
    I am a terrible runner, and I find it difficult to run even 5K. I can cycle ok and I can keep my heart rate relatively low. But when I start running I'm in trouble. My heart will race up to 180's (I'm 28). I feel burning below my calves.
    It sounds like you're running too fast. Nothing wrong with HR 180, but if you're not used to running, you won't be able to sustain it for long. At the start of every run, walk for a bit first, then run really slowly, then pick the pace up according to HR, don't go out to hammer every run. If your HR gets too high, walk a bit. This will allow you keep running for longer and to not get the burning you describe.
    Sniipe wrote: »
    I know I'm running incorrectly because I was told to try and run on my toes, but find I end up running on the heel then outer foot then toe. Because of this I'm feeling a little sore in my knees, probably from not hitting the ground correctly
    It's almost impossible to talk about running biomechanics without seeing you run. When I run on the flat, I heel strike and then roll to my toes as you describe and no pain. The soreness in your knees could be from your gait, your weight, the trainers, the surface. If it's persistent and causing problems, I would suggest going to a physiotherapist for some assessment. try to get a recommendation for a good one who specialises in sports. I'm not sure about the running on your toes advice? Sure as part of a full set of drills and technique work but no on it's own. Then again, I've not seen you run.


    There are some really super people involved with athenry AC. aburke, mick rice and locteau are 3 that sometimes post here. It might be worth getting in touch with them to see if they have suggestions in the Galway area.

    Good luck with the running. Should you ever want to race, we'll be happy to see you in a boards AC jersey.


  • #3
    Sniipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Thanks hunnymonster, that was a great reply. I have been to a sports physiotherapist in Galway and I got some great advice, which I really should revert to. I got some specialised insoles for my normal shoes (probably to correct my stance). The advice she gave me was to do squats on one leg using the other to balance (initially). This was the exercise I was given after I did Gael Force last year to recover.

    It nice to know that heel strikes then rolling to the toe is ok, but I'd say I try too hard to keep my run "quiet" (because I believe a quiet run uses less energy...)

    The Athenry AC are great, I think I was involved with them when I was younger and did a bit of cross country. Don't think I'll ever be good enough for the boards AC jersey :) but thanks.

    Someone PM'd me about a "foot assessment and running advice" with Gait in Galway. Perhaps I should try it out...


  • #4
    Sniipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    So I got Gait analysis... I didn't run on a thread mill but stood on a mat and walked across said mat.

    Turns out that I need a shoe with moderate to high motion control;
    Right is severe overpronation (he said the word severe, but said I'm not severe but that the runner would need to accomodate this...)
    Left is moderate overpronation

    So, I'm after a set of normal running runners and a set of trail runners. I don't think Galway has enough stock to help me out here. Perhaps an online purchase is needed... Any one any recommendations on runners for me please ?


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