glass washing in pubs

baldieman

I mentioned this in another thread, but perhaps here is more appropriate.
When one washes dishes etc... at home, the water is changed each time whether it's in a sink or dish washer. But, in your local pub, as far as I'm aware, the glass washer retains the same water all day or until it's actively emptied and refilled. It is my view that these machines are to scald the glasses only' so they should be rinsed first before being placed into the washer trays. But, quite often, you will see everything going into the tray including lemon slices and cloves. I worked behind a bar once and saw this happen all the time with other staff. After emptying the machine at night, you would have to remove the filter to clean out all the junk. Anyone else ever notice this?

phasers

ew

tolteq

i used to work in a deli place. i tried to clean all the stuff out of the spoons before washing them. because the customers had to use them the next day. i think if it was myself, i would want something clean to use.

you'll always get lazy people, who dont care. drink outta the bottle, i say.

Gazza22

I noticed in Captain America's a few weeks ago the girl behind the bar was using a blender filled with water to clean pint glasses.

She would take a used glass and dunk it in the water once or twice and then put it on the draining board. The water looked mouldy too. €3 pints washed my frown away though.

galwayrush

You don't notice anything wrong with the glass if the beer is good.;)

artanevilla

We tend to change it at the end of a shift, or every four hours. It's uneconomical to do it everytime as the water has to heat up, which costs alot if you are doing it 50+ times a day.

okioffice84

Every time the machine runs a cycle new water is pumped into the machine during the rinsing part of that cycle

Overheal

I really doubt the washers work like that. Maybe some of the really derelict ones? But the ones I worked with were definitely hooked into mains. Filters might have to be changed naturally, but new water is constantly coming and going. The waters discoloration is usually from detergents.

partyatmygaff

Unless they're handwashed which I doubt the water is changed every 2 washes

redout

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

lmtduffy

Keep in mind the heat and pressure of the water will get most tings clean despite the few lemons and cloves,

And most of those machines are hooked up to the mains so they probably take in fresh water as they go, if the glass looks clean and the drink tastes okay you shouldn't worry.

ShooterSF

redout wrote: »

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

Which is why if you get a pint where the head looks small but there's still run-over beer on the outside of the glass it was to give the lipstick a quick wipe with the thumb

Gummy Panda

redout wrote: »

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

The pub i worked in years ago could never get lipstick off with the washer even though it had lots of cleaning fluid in it. For lipstick its hand wash with the brush.

delllat

Gummy Panda wrote: »

The pub i worked in years ago could never get lipstick off with the washer even though it had lots of cleaning fluid in it. For lipstick its hand wash with the brush.

you could just lick it off

Bonkers_xOx

Gazza22 wrote: »

I noticed in Captain America's a few weeks ago the girl behind the bar was using a blender filled with water to clean pint glasses.

She would take a used glass and dunk it in the water once or twice and then put it on the draining board. The water looked mouldy too. €3 pints washed my frown away though.

I saw this in a TGIFs too. ew.

kumate_champ07

artanevilla wrote: »

We tend to change it at the end of a shift, or every four hours. It's uneconomical to do it everytime as the water has to heat up, which costs alot if you are doing it 50+ times a day.

every 2 hrs would be maybe 9 times a day, nobody is suggesting every 15mins

Creeping-Death

depending on the beer, a dirty glass may make it taste better.....

CianRyan

I imaging clubs are the worst for this, I'd only ever drink bottles in clubs though.
In bars, meh, i really don't care tbh. A good pint of Guinness and i'm happy, even if the glass is mouldy.:pac:

biko

Just adds to the flavour of Guinness

CianRyan

Respect the black stuff.

stovelid

/gets afraid.

/realizes that he started going to pubs in the early 90s and hasn't died yet.

/heads to pub.

L1011

Pretty much any unit I've seen recently are mains water/drainage just like a modern dishwasher. There would be some level of crud buildup over a day if glasses weren't rinsed but the water would be clean.

In my local, one the lounge staff (always the same one, actually...) runs the glasses through a sink of water before stacking them in to the trays for the washer. Never got a dirty glass that I've noticed and I do drink there sober at times...

Ya-Boy-Ya

Usually the glass is rinsed and "Dunked" in the brushes before its put in the tray to take any "heavy" stuff off as the machine can do the rest.

rubadub

You mean my 12 pints of poison might be contaminated with traces of lemons & cloves :eek: Never knew I was putting that sh!te in my body. Thats why I must feel so bad the next day, and I always blamed the legendary "bad burger".

Captain-America

Gazza22 wrote: »

I noticed in Captain America's a few weeks ago the girl behind the bar was using a blender filled with water to clean pint glasses.

She would take a used glass and dunk it in the water once or twice and then put it on the draining board. The water looked mouldy too. €3 pints washed my frown away though.

We sold the dishwasher so we can sell cheap pints.

SoupyNorman

Any dishwashers I ever used while working in bars over the years were emptied twice a day. (I used to get tired turning Sanji upside down twice a day) *sorry


Anyway, diswashers use nearly boiling water and a special detergent...I really cant see the issue here...

It is literally a purplemonkey dishwasher tbh.

Senna

If a pint glass is dirty you will see bubbles sticking to the side of the glass, their sticking to the scum/dirt. A dirty pint glass is easy to spot with larger or ale.

Gary ITR

Sure the lemons have cleaning properties anyway.

Kaffe Moka which used to be on Liffey St used to use fresh lemons to clean theit coffee machines.

x in the city

you get exposed to more germs from your daily trip in your car than from drinking pints tbh....

OldGoat

I've found that swilling some alcohol around the glass cleans it nicely.

What I do resent is being served beer in a hot glass straight from the washer. Now that just rankles. I understand that barstaff like using hot glasses for soft drinks as they tend to stop the cola or whatever from frothing up and bubbling over. The staff then add ice to cool the drink.
But putting beer into a hot glass cooks the first flow of beer into the glass and can kill a pint.

the_syco

baldieman wrote: »

After emptying the machine at night, you would have to remove the filter to clean out all the junk.

There is usually a filter to prevent sh|t from blocking the drain.

BaZmO*

baldieman wrote: »

But, in your local pub, as far as I'm aware, the glass washer retains the same water all day or until it's actively emptied and refilled.

No, most washers are connected to the mains so they are topped up with clean water each cycle.

Gazza22 wrote: »

I noticed in Captain America's a few weeks ago the girl behind the bar was using a blender filled with water to clean pint glasses.

She would take a used glass and dunk it in the water once or twice and then put it on the draining board. The water looked mouldy too. €3 pints washed my frown away though.

That's to get rid of lipstick from the glasses before they go into the glass washer.
Something like this

It can either be a static type or one that spins around.

redout wrote: »

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

Most glass washers have a detergent dispenser built into the washer so that you only need to fill it up every now and then.

CianRyan wrote: »

I imaging clubs are the worst for this, I'd only ever drink bottles in clubs though.
In bars, meh, i really don't care tbh. A good pint of Guinness and i'm happy, even if the glass is mouldy.:pac:

I'd be more worried about drinking from bottles than glasses in clubs, you would too if you saw how most of them are stored.

OldGoat

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd be more worried about drinking from bottles than glasses in clubs, you would too if you saw how most of them are stored.

+1
I never drink from bottles or cans. I've worked in too many storage/delivery areas to take the cleanliness of the bottle for granted. One cracked bottle spills vermin attracting sweet liquids all over every crate stacked underneath.

CianRyan

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd be more worried about drinking from bottles than glasses in clubs, you would too if you saw how most of them are stored.

:(I try not to think of it.

Frank3142

OldGoat wrote: »

+1
I never drink from bottles or cans. I've worked in too many storage/delivery areas to take the cleanliness of the bottle for granted. One cracked bottle spills vermin attracting sweet liquids all over every crate stacked underneath.

in europe they put caps on the tops of cans to keep them half clean.

okioffice84

redout wrote: »

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

Too much detergent will result in a poor quality pint with no head

queen*bee

redout wrote: »

The manager in one pub I worked only let us put in two tea-spoons of powder per day :eek: whick let me tell you is nowhere near enough. The crap that comes out of them things is amazing. Lipstick doesnt come off in the washers by the way.

from workin in pubs i can tell u that anything wax based (like lipstick) or dairy based (drinks like baileys and irish coffees) won't come off in a glasswasher, just like regular dishwashers and should be wiped off after rinsing the glasses and putting them in the machine...'should' be being the operative word here, lots of staff r just 2 lazy! and the water is pumped from the mains as previously pointed out so it's no dirtier than ur average dishwasher...the water tempertature is phenomenal by the way, try picking a hot glass straight outta d washer and u'll soon learn ur lesson! only cheap places who don't use enuf detergent should cause concern, othawise u should be grand...happy drinkin!

Magic.Marker

baldieman wrote: »

I mentioned this in another thread, but perhaps here is more appropriate.
When one washes dishes etc... at home, the water is changed each time whether it's in a sink or dish washer. But, in your local pub, as far as I'm aware, the glass washer retains the same water all day or until it's actively emptied and refilled. It is my view that these machines are to scald the glasses only' so they should be rinsed first before being placed into the washer trays. But, quite often, you will see everything going into the tray including lemon slices and cloves. I worked behind a bar once and saw this happen all the time with other staff. After emptying the machine at night, you would have to remove the filter to clean out all the junk. Anyone else ever notice this?

That's why I always ask for a bottle & a straw.

civildefence

Water is pumped from the mains but only after the machine has been emptied. The machine has a stopper inside it so of course the same water is being used. When the stopper is removed the machine empties, it then refills automatically when the door is closed. It then takes a few minutes to heat the water. The heat of the water with the detergent is enough to clean the glasses, kill any bacteria etc but lipstick etc may remain which is why glasses should be brushed first.