Steps to being a doctor?

slemons

Hi...
Can someone help fill in the gaps here?

1 - Do 4yr graduate or 5yr undergrad medicine in UL, UCD UCC, RCSI, NUIG. You are then called ____ ???
2 - Work as an intern for 1 year in Ireland. Does this *have* to be done in Ireland?
3 - Work as an NCHD? Whatever that is?
4 - Sit USMLE Exams Step1-3 and then go work in the states if you like. When can you sit these? Has anyone done them? Do you have to wait til you've the 4 or 5 years done first? From wikipedia, it says that in the US most students sit Step1 after second year of medschool. Where is the usmle sat? Anyone sit it?

How many years do you have to do before you can become a GP or surgeon? Do you do more exams then?
Thanks & sorry for all the q's
John

slemons

I think here's the main site for usmle for foreign students
http://www.ecfmg.org/2009ib/ibfaq.html

You can sit any/all usmle aslong as you've done 2 years in medschool.

Fee's
http://www.ecfmg.org/fees.html

Test centres in Ireland apparently...
http://www.ecfmg.org/usmle/centers.html#europe

Vorsprung

slemons wrote: »

Hi...
Can someone help fill in the gaps here?

1 - Do 4yr graduate or 5yr undergrad medicine in UL, UCD UCC, RCSI, NUIG. You are then called ____ ???

Slemons. But you're a doctor if that's what you're asking

2 - Work as an intern for 1 year in Ireland. Does this *have* to be done in Ireland?

If you want to do it elsewhere, you have to check with the Irish Medical Council that whatever place you end up doing you're internship is ok - if you end up coming home of course

3 - Work as an NCHD? Whatever that is?

An NCHD is a Non Consultant Hospital Doctor, ie an Intern, Senior House Officer, Registrar or Specialist Registrar. These are the different grades one typically passes through during training before becoming a consultant. Otherwise known in the media as "Junior Doctor"

4 - Sit USMLE Exams Step1-3 and then go work in the states if you like. When can you sit these? Has anyone done them? Do you have to wait til you've the 4 or 5 years done first? From wikipedia, it says that in the US most students sit Step1 after second year of medschool. Where is the usmle sat? Anyone sit it?

Someone else will give a better answer to this than I. You can do part one and two as an undergraduate - part 1 is something like an 8 hour MCQ which you can do in DCU, part 2 is broken into 2 parts, which I think have to be done in the States. Part 3 is done when you're qualified, also in the States.


How many years do you have to do before you can become a GP or surgeon? Do you do more exams then?

To be a GP, there's a competitive training scheme you have to get on, which itself is tough, and that's 4 years long. To be a surgeon you're talking about a 2 year SHO scheme after internship, then a couple of years doing research, a year as a registrar, 5-6 years as a Specialist Registrar, then a couple of years abroad doing a fellowship and waiting for a consultant job to become available at home. Exams are done at the end of or during your 2 SHO years, and at the end of your Specialist Registar years. During your work life though you'd be expected to be publishing research which you'd be doing on the side.

Thanks & sorry for all the q's
John

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