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  • 06-06-2009 7:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭


    Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and advise! I got my bicycle today and while not having done my 23KM commute yet, I did take it to my local Tesco this evening to pick up some stuff instead of taking the car. It's a wet and miserable day, but I had a big smile on my face :)

    IMG_0680_1.jpg

    The basic model I know! But for a complete newbie like me it feels light and fast. In fact my wife was so surprised that I had come back so fast from Tesco. She was asking me had I just gone across the road to the petrol station :)

    Anyway thanks again for the help and advise given!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    happy cycling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Ha, nice one, and nice bike :) Where did you buy it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    lukester wrote: »
    Ha, nice one, and nice bike :) Where did you buy it?

    Thanks! A bicycle shop out in Finglas had one, last one in stock of that model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Thanks! A bicycle shop out in Finglas had one, last one in stock of that model.

    What model is it exactly? See it's one of the Defy range...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    You'll get chain-lube on your sofa propping it up like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    lukester wrote: »
    What model is it exactly? See it's one of the Defy range...

    Giant Defy 4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    Nice one, good to see you went for the drops :) You can stick a rack on the back of that bike if you want to carry luggage or pannier bags, it has the mounting points. Leave it off for spins though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    Very nice!

    Give it a week and you will be ordering bits and pieces from all over d'internet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers


    And get a better lock. Cable locks are really not that great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    So Sesshoumaru, have bike, will travel. You coming along for the W200 tomorrow then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    fenris wrote: »
    Very nice!

    Give it a week and you will be ordering bits and pieces from all over d'internet!

    Is it possible to get brake levers that are on the dropped section and top section of the handlebars? <-- Sorry for poor use of cycling terminology, hopefully you'll understand what I mean :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    lukester wrote: »
    So Sesshoumaru, have bike, will travel. You coming along for the W200 tomorrow then?

    What is the W200?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Yay, drops!

    Sesshoumaru, welcome to the dark side. That's a lovely bike.

    Lesson 2: always photograph your bike with the chainrings facing towards the camera, the pretty side. To do otherwise is a "driveside fail".

    Happy cycling :)

    edit: although with that lock I'd want to make sure the bike was insured


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    What is the W200?

    Sorry, jargon there.

    It's a cycling event lots of us are doing tomorrow:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055492073

    http://wicklow200.ie/

    Oh, and +1 on the lock, if you're going to be locking it on the street at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Is it possible to get brake levers that are on the dropped section and top section of the handlebars? <-- Sorry for poor use of cycling terminology, hopefully you'll understand what I mean :)

    It's possible, but try get used to what you have first. You'll see that they are more than adequate. My dad's bike has the levers you are asking about. They just get in the way to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Raam wrote: »
    It's possible, but try get used to what you have first. You'll see that they are more than adequate. My dad's bike has the levers you are asking about. They just get in the way to be honest.

    They're called "auxiliary brake levers". I have them on my cross commuter and find them quite handy, e.g. if stopped at lights on a hill, you can sit back with a toe down and one hand on the brakes.

    Cheap as chips, e.g 10 or 20 quid, most bike shops have them.

    I'd try and get used to the drops first though, or else you'll be using the auxiliaries as a crutch, so to speak.

    (sorry, this reply looks like it's to you Raam, which it obviously isn't)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Raam wrote: »
    It's possible, but try get used to what you have first. You'll see that they are more than adequate. My dad's bike has the levers you are asking about. They just get in the way to be honest.

    Agree- once you get used to riding with your hands on top of the brake hoods you'll see you don't need top levers.

    Proven yesterday when a geezer walked out in front of me without looking- you get used to covering the brakes around town, access and stopping is just as easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    What I noticed was I preferred to sit up a bit when giving hand signals, then I found I didn't have my other hand on the brake when I wanted to slow down :) But I'll wait and see if I get used to them first.

    One possibly bad thing I've noticed is that the front wheel seems to have a very slight wobble. I couldn't notice it while riding, but before I went to Tesco I was practicing taking off the front wheel and putting it back on. When I put it back on and spun it, it does seem to wobble slightly. So I took it off again and put it back on to double check. Still a slight wobble there. Is that normal? I seem to remember it was possible to repair a wheel with this type of defect?

    On the lock: Yeah I knew it was crap. But my thinking at the time was that it would suffice for the bicycle parking area in my office (quite secure). That because it was fairly light and had a handy clip it would be good for that task. But of course if I was thinking a little clearer I would have remembered that I don't carry my heavy duty chain and lock around for my motorcycle, I leave it in work chained to one of the ground anchors they put in for us. I could probably just have used that lock. No matter anyway I'll get a decent lock asap, I'll need it for locking it up in various places. I was thinking an ABUS lock would do nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    I have auxilliary brake levers on my commuter. It came with them, I intended to take them off but to be honest I ended up liking them a lot for use around town in traffic. They don't really get in the way at all (I thought they would before I started to use the bike.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭Tawfee


    One possibly bad thing I've noticed is that the front wheel seems to have a very slight wobble. I couldn't notice it while riding, but before I went to Tesco I was practicing taking off the front wheel and putting it back on. When I put it back on and spun it, it does seem to wobble slightly. So I took it off again and put it back on to double check. Still a slight wobble there. Is that normal? I seem to remember it was possible to repair a wheel with this type of defect?

    Should be just a matter of re-tensioning the spokes. if it's a decent bike shop you bought it in, they should do this for you along with any other bedding in adjustments that need to be made (i.e. gears & brakes) after a few weeks' cycling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Acoustic


    Oisin im glad i could help with the price of the bike

    hope you enjoy

    re the lock , if they want your bike , they will have it regardless of the lock

    its just a matter of , if they want it enough or if its too much hassel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    Tawfee wrote: »
    Should be just a matter of re-tensioning the spokes. if it's a decent bike shop you bought it in, they should do this for you along with any other bedding in adjustments that need to be made (i.e. gears & brakes) after a few weeks' cycling.

    Yes they said they would give me a free service after 3 or 4 weeks. Just wasn't sure if a slight wobble in the wheel was something they could sort out!
    Acoustic wrote:
    Oisin im glad i could help with the price of the bike

    hope you enjoy

    re the lock , if they want your bike , they will have it regardless of the lock

    its just a matter of , if they want it enough or if its too much hassel

    Happy with the bike and service :) Thanks! I will buy a better lock, but the one I have now will do for in the office. We have a fairly secure bicycle rack.

    But more important than that.... I went for another spin yesterday to the next town over and back..... That standard saddle is a killer!!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Nice bike - hope you have lots of happy spins on it!

    Have you tried the commute yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Nice bike - hope you have lots of happy spins on it!

    Have you tried the commute yet?

    Not yet, I'm not ready yet! Furthest I've gone is Celbridge to Maynooth and back again yesterday. I'm planning on doing the same on a different route this evening after work. I'd like to reach a minimum level of fitness before I tackle the commute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Acoustic


    Yes they said they would give me a free service after 3 or 4 weeks. Just wasn't sure if a slight wobble in the wheel was something they could sort out!



    Happy with the bike and service :) Thanks! I will buy a better lock, but the one I have now will do for in the office. We have a fairly secure bicycle rack.

    But more important than that.... I went for another spin yesterday to the next town over and back..... That standard saddle is a killer!!! :)

    takes a bit of getting used to alright , but eases off after a few spins

    should have got the clock , so u can see how much ur doing each spin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Raam wrote: »
    It's possible, but try get used to what you have first. You'll see that they are more than adequate. My dad's bike has the levers you are asking about. They just get in the way to be honest.
    Sheldon Brown calls them Extension Levers, and points out drawbacks:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html

    There's a link there to Interrrupter Brake Levers which look as if they provide more robust braking.

    I had extension levers years ago on an old Raleigh "racer" (not a good road bike like the original poster's). They definitely didn't provide as good braking as the standard brakes on the drops.

    Richard Ballantine goes so far as to recommend that the best thing to do if you have extension levers is to get a hacksaw and cut them off so you are never tempted to use them. I never found them that dangerous, but I never did any fast cycling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭DePurpereWolf


    How are those tyres holding up Sesshoumora?
    That would be my bigegst fear of commuting to my work on a road racer. Not just the potential puncture on stones and curbs, but also less control on slippery stones and manhole covers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    That would be my bigegst fear of commuting to my work on a road racer. Not just the potential puncture on stones and curbs, but also less control on slippery stones and manhole covers.

    I've been doing it for years with no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Ryaner


    I've been doing it on my racer too, with pannier racks and all. Have had some issues with the wheels although I'd guess that my 110kg weight when I started commuting at xmas was partly to blame.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    How are those tyres holding up Sesshoumora?
    That would be my bigegst fear of commuting to my work on a road racer. Not just the potential puncture on stones and curbs, but also less control on slippery stones and manhole covers.

    No problems for me so far - although that now means I'll probably suffer a double puncture this evening on the way home.

    Less punctures than on the hybrid and that used to skate around on wet manhole covers and rain-soaked road pain as well.

    On the two occasions I came off in the last few years - once was ice, another was diesel (both times on a hybrid) - I reckon in those situations you're going down whatever you're cycling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Sheldon Brown calls them Extension Levers, and points out drawbacks:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html

    There's a link there to Interrrupter Brake Levers which look as if they provide more robust braking.

    I had extension levers years ago on an old Raleigh "racer" (not a good road bike like the original poster's). They definitely didn't provide as good braking as the standard brakes on the drops.

    Richard Ballantine goes so far as to recommend that the best thing to do if you have extension levers is to get a hacksaw and cut them off so you are never tempted to use them. I never found them that dangerous, but I never did any fast cycling.
    It's what Sheldon calls interrupter levers that I have, Lumen has and indeed that Raam's dad has (Raam's dad has a moden Focus tourer/commuter.) These are the extra levers that you would be getting on any modern bike, and indeed what Sesshoumaru would have to get for his- you can't fit suicide levers to a STI lever.
    In the early 21st century, an greatly improved system of "interrupter brake levers " appeared, with all of the advantages and none of the drawbacks of the older extension levers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭DePurpereWolf


    I'm still scared sh!tless about the thin wheels. Maybe I watched too much tour de france. People slipping on the paint on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    I'm still scared sh!tless about the thin wheels. Maybe I watched too much tour de france. People slipping on the paint on the road.

    That's much more to do with racing elbow to elbow in a tight bunch than riding on skinny wheels. If the TdF was run on hybrids (that would be quite a sight) you'd see the same amount of crashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    blorg wrote: »
    It's what Sheldon calls interrupter levers that I have, Lumen has and indeed that Raam's dad has (Raam's dad has a moden Focus tourer/commuter.) These are the extra levers that you would be getting on any modern bike, and indeed what Sesshoumaru would have to get for his- you can't fit suicide levers to a STI lever.
    It did seem strange to me that very experienced cyclists would be using suicide levers from the 70s! That's cleared that up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    How are those tyres holding up Sesshoumora?
    That would be my bigegst fear of commuting to my work on a road racer. Not just the potential puncture on stones and curbs, but also less control on slippery stones and manhole covers.

    Bumpy! The pressure is quite high in them as well and with the bike having a rigid frame everything is transmitted from the road to my body! I'm not too worried about slipping on manhole covers in the dry, might be a bit hairy in the wet though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I'm not too worried about slipping on manhole covers in the dry, might be a bit hairy in the wet though.

    It's fine riding over them in a straight line. If turning, avoid, even in the dry... just in case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Bumpy! The pressure is quite high in them as well and with the bike having a rigid frame everything is transmitted from the road to my body! I'm not too worried about slipping on manhole covers in the dry, might be a bit hairy in the wet though.
    get good cycling shorts and it will cut down the vibrations. i have the same bike, cycled without the shorts for a week and dont know myself since i got them!!


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