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fcuking junkie needles everywhere

  • 06-06-2009 12:22pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭


    how do needle exchanges work ?

    do you not have to give them an old/dirty needle to recieve a new one ?

    there always lying around in doorways cause junkies are too lazy to dump them properly

    just today i almost walked on one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Junkies are too junked up to dump them properly, I doubt it's laziness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭ronbyrne2005


    Was walking on Pearse street one night last summer and there were loads of used needles/syringes along gutter/side of road. Drunk girls in open shoes were regularly crossing road. Nasty accident nearly happened when i was there. Not the first dirty prick most of those girls have seen i bet.

    Most infections couldnt survive too long on a used needle so not too much to worry about .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Most infections couldnt survive too long on a used needle so not too much to worry about .

    IIRC, the hepatitis strains can last a while alright.

    It's pretty nasty around Thomas St/John St/Francis St at the best of times.

    Edit; Dublin forum? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    IIRC, the hepatitis strains can last a while alright.

    It's pretty nasty around Thomas St/John St/Francis St at the best of times.

    Edit; Dublin forum? :pac:

    Does thomas st have a methadone clinic near it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭delllat


    from tyhe amount of needles lying around they must be handing them to whoever

    i was under the impression its called a "needle EXCHANGE" because u had to bring in a needle and EXCHANGE it to get another one

    but from the amount of them lying around thats obviously not the case


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Reminds me of a Doug Stanhope bit where he says he wouldn't like to die in an ironic way. Like stepping on an AIDS needle on the way to buy condoms. Ah, I laughed.

    But they're junkies what do you expect? I'm not sure saving the environment is top of their agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭havana


    Needle exchanges do not hand them out to 'whoever'. And while people are encouraged to bring them back and also given information on other places to safely dispose of them most programmes do not work on a one in one out basis, this would defeat the harm reduction basis of the programmes. The majority do dispose of them properly but you will always get people who are less responsible for one reason or another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭delllat


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Reminds me of a Doug Stanhope bit where he says he wouldn't like to die in an ironic way. Like stepping on an AIDS needle on the way to buy condoms. Ah, I laughed.

    But they're junkies what do you expect? I'm not sure saving the environment is top of their agenda.

    if we werent giving them unlimited needles they would have less to throw around

    i know this would resort to them sharing needles more and spreading aids among themselves but i can live with that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 thepostman


    delllat wrote: »
    if we werent giving them unlimited needles they would have less to throw around

    i know this would resort to them sharing needles more and spreading aids among themselves but i can live with that


    Its harsh and all but its the reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭havana


    They are not given unlimited needles. They are given enough to ensure they have sterile equipment each time they inject.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    delllat wrote: »
    if we werent giving them unlimited needles they would have less to throw around

    i know this would resort to them sharing needles more and spreading aids among themselves but i can live with that


    You're okay with the spread of AIDS? For the sake of a couple of needles on the ground?

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    delllat wrote: »
    i know this would resort to them sharing needles more and spreading aids among themselves but i can live with that

    lol

    What about when they have kids or sleep with people that aren't junkies?

    AIDS is funny like that, it doesn't only select specific targets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭havana


    And when you saw the syringe on the ground what did you do? Step over it cos it's not your responsibility? Very responsible. Instead you should ring the local council and inform them of the location of any discarded equipment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    delllat wrote: »
    if we werent giving them unlimited needles they would have less to throw around

    i know this would resort to them sharing needles more and spreading aids among themselves but i can live with that

    Can you? They maybe then go on to develop a whole host of diseases and/or infections (it's not just about AIDS), which then have to be treated in the public health system, for hep, blood clots, bacterial infections; all costing an awful lot more money than a few disposable needles, and quite possibly leading to the risk of cross infection with patients or staff already in the public health system.

    There's no excuse for chucking the damn things in the street though...like most people I though it was an exchange programme; ie you put your used needle in a sharps bin and get a shiny new one, not simply handing them out like johnnies in a cathouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭havana


    The reason it is often not one in and one out is that there are other places for someone to dispose of them. So for example a guy goes to the exchange today, gets enough equipment until tomorrow then that night goes back to his hostel and disposes of them there or visits another needle exchange before he goes back to the original. Or has his own sharps bin where he disposes of them and the brings it back when full.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982



    Most infections couldnt survive too long on a used needle so not too much to worry about .

    48 hours for HIV from what I remember and twice that for Hepatitis.....long enough for some little kid to accidentally get pricked by it.

    Came across one on the street not so long ago and just kicked it down into the shore....probably not the safest thing to do but better than kids getting at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭havana


    The HIV virus doesn't live too long outside of the body, but the hep c virus is alot more viralant and lives significantly longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Does thomas st have a methadone clinic near it?

    There's a couple of hostels and a needle exchange about, and an ample supply of tourists passing by a Cash Converters for when they run low on cash... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    I suppose it's a necessary evil to have needle exchanges. I still despise drug addicts for forcing us to waste tax money on their drug habits.


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