Success=Private School=Unfair

Jordonvito

Its really unfair that most successfull people have gone to private schools, they are a minority yet they make up the majority?

My name is URL

Yes, the brain slug is our master?

K4t

Jordonvito wrote: »

Its really unfair that most successfull people have gone to private schools, they are a minority yet they make up the majority?

Your definition of being successful please?

Senna

Most successful?? Boll0x, more mommy and daddy connections maybe.

quirkster

Jordonvito wrote: »

Its really unfair that most successfull people have gone to private schools, they are a minority yet they make up the majority?

Unfair? How exactly?

Saibh

Did someone forget to pay their private school fees :pac:

mayordenis

WAAAAAAH WEH WEH WEH WAAAAAAAAAAAH

Fremen

They also know not to make statements in the form of questions?

Overheal

Smart successful people raising Smart Successful Babies?

HOW DARE THEY!! :mad:

ya-ba-da-ba-doo

Your right, everyone who came out of state schools are unsuccessful in ireland. *move's to mexico to be a success*

markok84

Jordonvito wrote: »

Its really unfair that most successfull people have gone to private schools, they are a minority yet they make up the majority?

I think you'll find that some of the most successful people never even finished school, they just have brass balls and thick necks


moral of the story;

get yourself a pair of these http://www.nowandfutures.com/d2/brass_balls_gold.jpg

and work on your trapezoids

everything will be okay.

Tchaikovsky

Welcome to the world.

OctavarIan

Senna wrote: »

Most successful?? Boll0x, more mommy and daddy connections maybe.

This is the truth of it. Most kids who go to private schools would have financially sorted/well-connected parents so their path through life is just a case of follow the dots.

Black Swan

A school about privates?

Local-womanizer

markok84 wrote: »

I think you'll find that some of the most successful people never even finished school, they just have brass balls and thick necks


moral of the story;

get yourself a pair of these http://www.nowandfutures.com/d2/brass_balls_gold.jpg

and work on your trapezoids

everything will be okay.

True,alot of the rich have just had the balls to put all there eggs into one basket and it paid off.It really had nothing to do with education.

MoominPapa

A lack of education is no excuse for not being a success, a lack of imagination is though

SoupyNorman

Its common knowledge that most silver spooned individuals get many a leg up from mommy and dawddys contacts but so what, are ya that insecure that you are looking over and wishing you were more like Fintan?

I went to a public school, worked at a trade then went to an IT, came to Dublin and competed with privately schooled UCD graduates and the like for a job...I was victorious, How you say?




I ran the fukkers over with my car.



Define 'success' though!

For some its being able to provide a comfortable standard of living for themselves and dependants.

For others it's driving a flash car, hookers off the arms and a private cocaine dealer.


I'd fall somewhere between the two.

c-note

i went to a "private" boarding school
the school was Dept of ed run, the fees were for boarding.

Academically i would say my year were pretty typical, as far a LC results went, i know from friends, family and other people i've met of my age in the last 10 years that there was no particualr academic advantage to be gained.

But i do take your point...
The fact That a private school is expensive means that if you go to one, your family has money, maybe they make sacrafices to send you to a particualar school, or maybe they have a lot of money.

That money affords people opportunities, The opportunity to travel and to take on as many extra cirricular activities as they'd like. it affords them the freedom to think... to take business/entrepreneurial risks, without having to risk their homes... the opportunity to take career breaks in their 20's/30's to persue their own ideas. theese are things that can be very difficult to do if you dont have assets to back you up. And theese are the things which have the potential to increase your success.

so i think the question could equally be:
Why do people who come from wealthy families tend to be wealthier or more sucessful themselves? and i think the answer to that is more obvious.

having said that, the "success" of my friends from secondry school is not measurably greater than the "success" of my friends from 3rd level who did not go to private schools (at least so far).

i've had this discussion with friends before, and all i can say is that if you feel in some way dis-advantaged by not going to a private school, or if you account for your lack of success by reference to the fact that you did not recieve a "private" education, then you may be barking up the wrong tree and the roots of your success deficit may lie elsewhere.

i suppose in summary i'd say that in my experience there is no need to feel disadvantaged. there are the 10% of guys who regardless of what school they go to, or how they do academically, will take over daddys business, but this has little to do with the fact they went to private school.

[i'm not referring to "grind" schools here, which have been shown to have higher academic performance]

i would not send my kids to a private boarding school.
for one i thinks is an unnatural way to grow up and i also believe its a terrible waste of money!!

SoupyNorman

c-note wrote: »

i went to a "private" boarding school
the school was Dept of ed run, the fees were for boarding.

Academically i would say my year were pretty typical, as far a LC results went, i know from friends, family and other people i've met of my age in the last 10 years that there was no particualr academic advantage to be gained.

But i do take your point...
The fact That a private school is expensive means that if you go to one, your family has money, maybe they make sacrafices to send you to a particualar school, or maybe they have a lot of money.

That money affords people opportunities, The opportunity to travel and to take on as many extra cirricular activities as they'd like. it affords them the freedom to think... to take business/entrepreneurial risks, without having to risk their homes... the opportunity to take career breaks in their 20's/30's to persue their own ideas. theese are things that can be very difficult to do if you dont have assets to back you up. And theese are the things which have the potential to increase your success.

so i think the question could equally be:
Why do people who come from wealthy families tend to be wealthier or more sucessful themselves? and i think the answer to that is more obvious.

having said that, the "success" of my friends from secondry school is not measurably greater than the "success" of my friends from 3rd level who did not go to private schools (at least so far).

i've had this discussion with friends before, and all i can say is that if you feel in some way dis-advantaged by not going to a private school, or if you account for your lack of success by reference to the fact that you did not recieve a "private" education, then you may be barking up the wrong tree and the roots of your success deficit may lie elsewhere.

i suppose in summary i'd say that in my experience there is no need to feel disadvantaged. there are the 10% of guys who regardless of what school they go to, or how they do academically, will take over daddys business, but this has little to do with the fact they went to private school.

[i'm not referring to "grind" schools here, which have been shown to have higher academic performance]

i would not send my kids to a private boarding school.
for one i thinks is an unnatural way to grow up and i also believe its a terrible waste of money!!

Cheers, you've just proved that private schooling does in fact produce duds. :rolleyes:

Captain-America

OP. Your logic is flawed. I bet you went to a Public school cos you clearly cannot do maths.

Success=Private School=Unfair means that Success=Unfair.

Why Op, why? Why?

mayordenis

My shortcomings are nothing to do with my school, I would blame alcohol and women.

Melange

Having attended a private school, I can say with reasonable certainty that the majority of kids who attend them do not, in fact, have particularly wealthy or well-connected parents. They are, for the most part, a product of normal, middle-class households, with parents who work hard to provide their children with what they believe to be a good education.

The notion that private school alumni benefit from their background is ridiculous and simply does't apply in the vast majority of cases: neither I nor any of my friends from school have benefited in life from "contacts" or "connections" of any sort. We got where we were due to hard work and merit.

SoupyNorman

Melange wrote: »

We got where we were due to hard work and merit.

No Wai! I've a friend that works in Aldi too.

Karlusss

It's not necessarily the school that's causing this. People who go to schools that have to be paid for are going to be middle class or better, and if you're from a middle class family, the likelihood is that you're going to stay middle class, because that's the set of goals you've been given.

You'll also be more likely to have had financial support - paying for the school but also, say, not having to pay your way until you're finished education, or having grinds in things you're not good at - and general encouragement to achieve success by middle-class standards: 500+ point Leaving, a degree, a well-paid job.

TheZohanS

Private chool...pffffffffffffft!

It's just organised study. Anyone can achieve the same marks if they take the finger out......

liar

i dont aprove of private schools. but 500+ points, then that person is clearly inteligent and deservses a well paid job and they probably would have achieved the same in a public school if they realy wanted to do so.