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Economics LC 2009 (H + O)

  • 05-06-2009 9:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭


    Surprised theres no thread for it.

    Anyway, im doing O level and got a B in the mocks, but do you think this will be harder? is there a very good chance that classical economists and that type of stuff will come up?

    Also, same for oligopoly? I haven't studied it in ages and dont really want to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭snazzy


    Oh
    I've no idea what to expect for Economics!
    I reckon you're really just better off knowing History of Economics because it's a pity to waste marks on easy theory. It's just getting there that sucks.

    And yes, I'd be paranoid to leave out Oligopoly!
    It's just the graph thats the scary thing! The theory is actually fine and you can't really compare it to other market structures as much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    snazzy wrote: »
    Oh
    I've no idea what to expect for Economics!
    I reckon you're really just better off knowing History of Economics because it's a pity to waste marks on easy theory. It's just getting there that sucks.

    And yes, I'd be paranoid to leave out Oligopoly!
    It's just the graph thats the scary thing! The theory is actually fine and you can't really compare it to other market structures as much.

    I'm not sure about pass but for honours u need to know oligopoly and imperfect comp as one is bound to come up...

    The mrkts are pretty easy to learn... It's jus a lil boring


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 David McArdle


    Hi
    I did OL Economics in 2008. I dropped down on the day and I knew i would. I briefly looked over oligopoly, but not in great detail. The reason being, is that Oligopoly has never come up before and i believe it isnt on the OL course. I asked my teacher last year does it come up, and he said no, only for HL.
    So last year Monopoly came up, which was a blessing for me, so either Perfect Comp, or Imperfect comp are more than likely to come up.!

    Remember this is only one question.!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Lads and lassies I wish you the best of luck in this exam. I found it one of the toughest papers I did in my LC (2007).

    I'm not altogether sure about OL but for HL I studied virtually anything I could.

    It is a big enough course and it's one I didn't particularly enjoy. Maybe it was down to the teacher I had.

    I managed to scrape a pass in it.

    It is a very doable paper if you're in the right state of mind for it. A lot of common sense really does go a long way with some of the questions.

    I'm just looking over my LC exam papers now and I'm now feeling that I knew I could have answered some things a lot better.

    Best of luck in it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GVNDNN


    I'm dreading this paper :(

    I could never get into it...
    I have gone over and over the same material but it just doesn't stick

    Any tips?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    Hey all,

    Just to say if any of you have any specific questions feel free to ask for help on the Economics forum. We're usually pretty quick to help.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭CarefulNow


    Hey does anyone have any predictions for the HL paper? I really need a C3 or higher. I've a week to study for it now so hopefully i'll make good use of the time :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 george.


    Im hoping for questions on:

    -markets: oligopoly &/or imperfect
    -factors: capital & land
    -tax & fiscal policy
    -costs & elasticity

    these qs came up in the DEB and examcraft mocks i'm pretty sure, so hopefully they'll come up on the day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    hope there's an elasticity question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Saul-Good


    Economics is a sinking ship for me I just want to get as far away from it as soon as I can.

    I'm focusing on Micro-Economics in the week I have off now as it's a small enough section in comparison to Macro and 3-4 question come up on it every year in Higher level, I'd suggest this as a study guide for anyone who feels unsure about it like me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭MrPirate


    I'd say something on the banking system and the current economic climate has over 9000% chance of coming up.
    I gotta say, I had the greatest economics teacher ever. He shoved the stuff down your throat, but because of that, I can remember most of the course right now despite the fact I haven't opened my economics book in 2 months. ^^
    Anyway, elasticity too could come up.
    A question about the budget, unemployment, land? I don't really know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Saul-Good


    They really could take so many angles for an economic slow down question. Inflation, demand, banking credit creation, demand for labour they could bend anything around the general topic of recession when you think about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Gi joe!


    Yeh, I'd be positive a general 'how did the banking systen implode' question will come up, aswell as 'what could irish gov do to tackle unemplyment/recession'
    Topical stuff is always popular

    Part from that, economics seems very unpredicatable:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Hey all,

    Just to say if any of you have any specific questions feel free to ask for help on the Economics forum. We're usually pretty quick to help.

    Good luck.
    Might take you up on that. Cheers!

    I've been looking forward to this exam for so long and that's not even because it's my last! Economics > Sex.

    Going on a six day binge now, a bit of micro, a bit of macro, a bit of JMK, hmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭MrPirate


    "Outline five ways in which the Irish government has f*cked up your future by their handling of the current economic situation." (30 Marks)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭irishmonkey


    Anyone have current figures, and also... how to use them?
    Attempting to teach myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 stylee


    MrPirate wrote: »
    "Outline five ways in which the Irish government has f*cked up your future by their handling of the current economic situation." (30 Marks)

    haha...good one:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭MrPirate


    Anyone have current figures, and also... how to use them?
    Attempting to teach myself.
    http://www.cso.ie/
    Everything involving stats/figure is up on there. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    Anyone have current figures, and also... how to use them?
    Attempting to teach myself.
    What kind of figures are you looking for? Inflation? GDP? GNP? et cetera...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    You have been appointed Minister for finance.
    Draft an economy saving government budget. 75 marks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Mallox


    didn see a thread so thought id start one ... so wat ye doin for it .. ive all micro prepared and national income as a back up hoping that will be enuf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭english4490


    There is one mallox you didn't look very far!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Mallox


    There is one mallox you didn't look very far!!
    oh ....

    :mad:


    english4490 we meet again .. my sworn rival on boards .. wat do you want this time ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Mallox


    i get the feeling alot of ppl really dont like economics :eek::eek:
    i love this subject .. its one of the shortest courses in the leaving cert and you have a choice of 8 questions to do 4 how bad like!!!
    most of my class will be aiming for As in this ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GVNDNN


    I really don't like Economics

    But hey we have 5 days,
    It's very achievable to do very well if your struggling atm!

    :D

    Plus
    http://economicshelp.org

    It's an english wenbsite but it's very good :cool:
    Also the 2fm economics notes are good

    Good luck everybody


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    I think economics is just one of those subjects you either get or you don't!
    luckily for me I get it, but havn't looked at it in bout a month so i really have to get to work!
    i'd say learn how banks create credit, and why they shouldn't create too much, because thats pretty topical nowadays!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    um, I always found economics to be an easy course. The Exam is so predictable. Basically imperfect comp. will probably come up if not for a huge surprise which would be in the oligopoly form, National Income always comes up. Capital will probably come up although it may be linked in with land. There will be a few more questions on things like employment etc. but basically just look at the patterns from the last few years because the course just constantly repeats itself.

    Forgot to say that supply and demand always come up in some shape or form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    I love economics, only got a C in the mocks, but I'm planning on learning loads of **** before wednesday. what should I look at goys? my teacher said it's easier to get marks on micro cos once you know it you know it, macro can be a bit iffy sometimes, obviously I'm not going to do just macro or micro but I'm going to do more of one of them, thing is I think I prefer macro. what's everyone else doing more of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    I love economics, only got a C in the mocks, but I'm planning on learning loads of **** before wednesday. what should I look at goys? my teacher said it's easier to get marks on micro cos once you know it you know it, macro can be a bit iffy sometimes, obviously I'm not going to do just macro or micro but I'm going to do more of one of them, thing is I think I prefer macro. what's everyone else doing more of?

    well basically micro is like graphs and explaining things with a concrete marking scheme which rewards correctness but the macro marking scheme is a lot more general and harder to award marks on. If you do nothing else in micro, do supply and demand, imperfect comp. and capital/land. you'd be grand then learn a bit of macro and your sorted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Rob!


    JSK 252 wrote: »
    You have been appointed Minister for finance.
    Draft an economy saving government budget. 75 marks.

    You know they'd totally capitalize upon our ideas!:p

    Did you ever notice whilst studying economics over the past 2 yrs you could point out straight away errors in the government ideas to fill the budget deficit?

    Its kinda sad just how beneficial the basic principals of a second level economics book could be to our political figures - also shows you how ridiculously unqualified they are to be in a position to dictate the financial running of a nation........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Gi joe!


    Rob! wrote: »
    You know they'd totally capitalize upon our ideas!:p

    Did you ever notice whilst studying economics over the past 2 yrs you could point out straight away errors in the government ideas to fill the budget deficit?

    Its kinda sad just how beneficial the basic principals of a second level economics book could be to our political figures - also shows you how ridiculously unqualified they are to be in a position to dictate the financial running of a nation........

    You got that right, which moron I wonder had the bright idea of letting a solicitor handle the finances of our country:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭internetaddict


    Mallox wrote: »
    i get the feeling alot of ppl really dont like economics :eek::eek:
    i love this subject .. its one of the shortest courses in the leaving cert and you have a choice of 8 questions to do 4 how bad like!!!
    most of my class will be aiming for As in this ..


    Yeah I mean you could get away with doing well without answering any waffle-y(?) government questions, there's loads of choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    yeah but the government has economic advisors! it's not your man brian lenihan deciding what to do :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    yeah but the government has economic advisors! it's not your man brian lenihan deciding what to do :pac:
    Basically, economics is all theory. Why do you think there's so many 'assumptions'? :D That's why it's so interesting though, Different theories, keynesian, monetarism etc.

    Make sure you do all the amrkets if studying them. There could well be a question incorporating all of them, seeing as it's common to predict which one is coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 podgedurka


    imperfect (be able to compare with monopoly/oligopoly/ perfect)
    capital
    elasticity/demand
    costs and revenue
    national income (multiplier)
    foreign trade( if u dont know it dont touch it now)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    My tips:

    Imperfect competiton/ oligopoly
    Elasticities
    Capital
    International Trade- Especially the drop in the value of the sterling compared to the euro
    Government- Current budget deficit is going to be ****ing there! It has to be! Also the effects of income levys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    2 definitions for the government which are worth knowing are the exchequer borrowing requirement and the public sector borrowing requirement. I dont have to give the reason do I?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 podgedurka


    These are also likely as shorts
    effect of deflation(disinflation)/ how a govt could reduce it
    characteristics of oligopoly/ methods of collusion
    point and which dmr sets in
    calculation for CPI consumer price index
    know contributions by monetarists or supply side economists


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭7Steve


    podgedurka wrote: »
    know contributions by monetarists or supply side economists


    And what would they be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    ^ Advocation of free markets (no government intervention, some regulation), Privatisation (of healthcare, education etc.), Low income tax to increase the incentive to work and increase the gap between those working and those on social welfare, less power of trade unions etc etc


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