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RTE without sky subscription

  • 04-06-2009 6:30pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭


    I have cancel my sky subscription but have been told I will no longer get RTE through my dish and box.
    Do RTE provide a freview card like is done in the uk?
    If I have paid my TV licence I dont see why I should have to get an ariel installed when I should be able to get it over my dish.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    you cannot receive RTE over your dish if you are not paying for at least basic package. No way around it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭an_other


    Does that mean I dont need a license if I dont have an ariel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    an_other wrote: »
    Does that mean I dont need a license if I dont have an ariel?

    Nope, if you have a TV, you need a licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭squonk


    Technicaly I think the way it's going anyway, if you have a PC you'd even need a licence, now that they've released the RTE Player service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭dlambirl


    an_other wrote: »
    Does that mean I dont need a license if I dont have an ariel?

    You need an aerial if you have a tv.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Only if you want to watch television do you need an aerial. I know a few who use televisions for just consoles and dvd players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    squonk wrote: »
    Technicaly I think the way it's going anyway, if you have a PC you'd even need a licence, now that they've released the RTE Player service.
    License is Nothing to do with if you get RTE, nor the RTE player.

    If you have an apparatus that can receive a TV broadcast you need a license.
    This INCLUDES
    * setbox or TV or PCcard or USB adaptor (on PC or PS3) that can tune/receive/decode:
    ==> Via Aerial
    ==> Via Dish
    ==> Via Cable
    ==> Via real time full screen IPTV carrying a Broadcast service on ANY type of network, rather than streaming VOD or Youtube/iPlayer Type service. (Magnet, Homevison, Smart, eircom DSL IPTV trials)

    If you only had Spanish TV via dish from 30W via USB adaptor on a netbook you would still need a TV license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Only if you want to watch television do you need an aerial. I know a few who use televisions for just consoles and dvd players.

    However the onus is on the TV owner to prove it's not capable of TV reception. Gluegun/Epoxy in the aerial socket would ensure that legally it's a monitor.



    See these posts to understand why you won't get RTE on Satellite without a Sky subscription


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    watty wrote: »
    However the onus is on the TV owner to prove it's not capable of TV reception. Gluegun/Epoxy in the aerial socket would ensure that legally it's a monitor.
    Gluegun/Epoxy are not mentioned in the TV license rulebook.
    Basically if you are in possession of an apparatus to receive television signals you need a license.
    You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Sonic_exyouth


    watty wrote: »
    License is Nothing to do with if you get RTE, nor the RTE player.

    Hardly. The License effectively funds RTÉ.

    The OP can get a DTT MPEG4 box, and should be able to get RTÉ that way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    True, but he'll still have to get himself an aerial, which is what he was moaning about here in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    watty wrote: »
    License is Nothing to do with if you get RTE, nor the RTE player.
    Hardly. The License effectively funds RTÉ.

    If you have a tuner in your television but don't put an aerial on your roof to receive RTÉ you still pay for a televison licence so the licence has nothing to do with receiving RTÉ or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Gluegun/Epoxy are not mentioned in the TV license rulebook.
    Basically if you are in possession of an apparatus to receive television signals you need a license.
    You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.

    If the apparatus can't be enabled to receive TV, (by damage to Tuner or because it's ONLY a monitor) then it doesn't need a licence. Any TV with SCART and /or HDMI can be converted to be a monitor. Simply unplugging the aerial doesn't count. OTH if you have a DVD player that has also a built in tuner to record to DVD, then you are back to having a receiving apparatus. You need to destroy that tuner too (and the one in the VHS and the tuner on your ATI "All-in-wonder" graphics card).

    The licence is a Tax on the ability to receive Broadcasts that happens to be about 90% paid to RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭von Smallhausen


    Wow for something that started out as someone asking if they can get RTE without Sky sub...it turned into a massive discussion about TV licences...how things turn around so fast...good arguments there by the way...although im so confused about the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    well heres one for you my neighbours (They are from hungary) they do not have a tv or any receiving equiptment but have an aerial installed on their chimney, they now have legal proceddings against them for having no licence but an aerial. Apparently according to the letters even an aerial on its own (Not even owning a tv) requires a licence. I only found out this as theyve asked to borrow my ladders to see if they can take it down.

    Just wondering does a tv licence cover radio as well like the uk licence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Both topics done to death

    RTE on Satellite http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055573811

    "TV Licence" search, all forums, title only
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=6965656


    You don't need a licence any longer for:
    "Ordinary Radio reception"

    If they can prove the aerial is for Radio they don't need to take it down. If they can prove they have no TV they do not need to remove the aerial, but removing the aerial is simplest. (cutting the flex at chimney may do).

    You can have a dish for VSAT (two way Internet) that doesn't receive TV at all.

    CE marked ETSI CB with 4W max FM/SSB and 1W max AM
    PMR446 (CE mark)
    2.4GHz Video Sender (CE mark)
    DECT cordless phones (CE mark)
    WiFi on 2.4 & 5.8 (CE mark)
    433MHz & 864MHz SRDs with CE mark (weather stations, IR remote extenders, very low power walkie talkie, radio microphone etc).
    Satellite transmitter part of client VSAT (two way Internet etc). An earth Station /Mobile uplink / hub does need a licence.

    eircom 2.3GHz and 3.5GHz transmitters at your home/buisiness and 3.5GHz/10.5GHz transmitters are covered by the licence of the ISP.

    Transmitter of 900, 1800 and 2100 MHz in mobile phones covered by the Mobile operators lincence. Only the operator may supply/install a repeater, pico or femto cell, it's illegal for anyone else.

    The list of everything is on ComReg's site, Licence exempted CE mark / ETSI gear and gear you can apply for a licence.

    A CE mark with /!\ means not all EU countries and may be illegal in Ireland though legal in UK. This is a failing of some chain stores (Maplin are you listening?). Not EVERY CE approved transmitting device is allowed everywhere, i.e. UK only allow FM, n o AM/SSB on CE CBs as well as allowing the old 27/81 CBs which are only legal here under Community Broadcast licence (i.e. one channel, live church services annual fee), not as CB.

    Thread closed.


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