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Exclusive: Garda car collision in Dublin 8

  • 01-06-2009 4:29am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭


    A Garda squad car collided with a taxi near St. James's Hospital at around 2am on the 1st June. Photo taken minutes after collision. According to witnesses the collision occurred as a result of the occupied taxi performing an illegal u-turn on the main road while the squad car was approaching. Several people involved were injured, including both Gardai in the squad car and the passenger in the taxi. All were taken to the nearby hospital by ambulance. The scene was being technically examined shortly after the photo was taken. Witnesses also stated that although the squad car was not responding a call, there was no time for the Garda car to take evasive action from the taxi's path.
    The rear of the taxi can be seen on the far left of the photo, it hit a lamp-post on the opposite side of the street after the initial collision. The group of firemen on the right beside the squad car are tending to a Garda with possible spinal injuries.

    Your thoughts on this are welcome.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    Nothing to say really only that thoughts and prayers are with the injured parties.

    I really hope the Guard doesn't have spinal injuries and the witnesses just saw an over cautious paramedic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    You should proberly remove the pic until the condition of the people involved is known.

    There was a similar thread in Photography not so long ago and it caused a mixed reaction. Think the pic was removed in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Onkle wrote: »
    Nothing to say really only that thoughts and prayers are with the injured parties.

    I really hope the Guard doesn't have spinal injuries and the witnesses just saw an over cautious paramedic

    Absolutely, what a horrible thing to happen while going about your business. The nigerian taxi driver was able to walk away but his passenger was trapped for a time. Taxi's are notorious for doing u-turns at that particular spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    Absolutely, what a horrible thing to happen while going about your business. The nigerian taxi driver was able to walk away but his passenger was trapped for a time. Taxi's are notorious for doing u-turns at that particular spot.

    I can't place the spot in my head. I know the area very well, am from Inchicore, where exactly is this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    d3mon24 wrote: »
    You should proberly remove the pic until the condition of the people involved is known.

    There was a similar thread in Photography not so long ago and it caused a mixed reaction. Think the pic was removed in the end.

    With all due respect, no compromising or distasteful images are shown, if people could tell the press to do that we'd have very boring newspapers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    Onkle wrote: »
    I can't place the spot in my head. I know the area very well, am from Inchicore, where exactly is this?

    Just up from the Emo garage in mount brown, the hill leads up to Ceannt Fort


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    With all due respect, no compromising or distasteful images are shown, if people could tell the press to do that we'd have very boring newspapers.


    Ya your right. But it might get some peoples backs up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    d3mon24 wrote: »
    Ya your right. But it might get some peoples backs up
    If it does get a bad reaction I have no problem removing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    Cant say fairer than that.

    Did you witness the crash or did you just come across it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    I didn't actually see it happen but I arrived about 5 minutes after. 2 lads that were in the pub with me were walking past when it happened. The squad car nearly hit them.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I have removed the picture until we know the condition of the Garda who is being treated.

    Please refer to the forum charter on this which states:

    "Pictures of incidents such as car crashes in particular those involving fatalities should have all number plates blanked and not be easily identifiable as to the exact incident. Please use your head on this and be sensitive to those who were involved in the incident and be aware that such photos may be considered evidence.
    Be sure to give a description of the image except in cases of fatalities or serious injuries"

    Until we know more, I will ask you to keep this picture to yourself?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭ArseBurger


    The nigerian taxi driver...

    I fail to understand why nationality is mentioned here.

    Or the lack of capitalisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    ArseBurger wrote: »
    I fail to understand why nationality is mentioned here.

    Or the lack of capitalisation.

    If its fact I dont see the issue.

    You could go further and say why was taxi mentioned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Just up from the Emo garage in mount brown, the hill leads up to Ceannt Fort

    I know it well and I'm wondering did the taxi pull a U-turn.
    Constantly happens in that area.

    Just my first reaction anyway when I saw the location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    I know it well and I'm wondering did the taxi pull a U-turn.
    Constantly happens in that area

    Subsequent question: Why in thename of God do Taxi Drivers simply HAVE to pull such crazy stunts CONSTANTLY.
    Is there some requirement in the Road Traffic Act stating that a Taxi wishing to turn-about MUST perform such manouvere Immediately upon stopping.

    It would seem that such is the scarcity of business these days that Taxi Drivers will do this as a natural reflex without any attempt to ensure a clear and safe passage.

    For God`s sake why can they not simply drive on to a safe place,indicate and turn-about there. :confused::confused::confused:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    ArseBurger wrote: »
    I fail to understand why nationality is mentioned here.

    Or the lack of capitalisation.

    Get a grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    Has anybody heard any updates about this?? Didn't see anything on the news, mainly cos i was out sunning myself all day!
    I know there was a pic so assuming its true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭ArseBurger


    Get a grip

    Why point out the nationality of the driver? Would you have pointed out the nationality of an Irish or English driver? Doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭ArseBurger


    Zambia232 wrote: »
    If its fact I dont see the issue.

    You could go further and say why was taxi mentioned.

    In my opinion mentioning that it was a taxi is as relevant as mentioning that there was a police car involved since the taxi is a public service vehicle and therefore requires the driver to have a public service license and insurance etc... with the ensuing consequences of such.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Know the area very well. Used to live there. Dangerous hill- assholes speed down it all the time. The best turning area is the entrance to the hospital incinerator facility or the petrol garage. My only ever accident caused by someone turning into Ceannt Fort without indicating causing braking wave. Poor lad behind wasn't paying attention and rear-ended me and cracked his spine.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    ArseBurger wrote: »
    Why point out the nationality of the driver? Would you have pointed out the nationality of an Irish or English driver? Doubt it.
    Why does it matter? Your trying to make something of nothing. World is gone pc mad.
    Hope all involved the accident are ok no matter what nationality they are :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭ArseBurger


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Why does it matter? Your trying to make something of nothing. World is gone pc mad.

    I'm not being politically correct. I couldn't give a toss what the nationalities of the people involved were. Either the cops, the taxi driver, or the passenger(s). Kinda the point. No harm in bringing it up, and I always will.
    seanybiker wrote: »
    Hope all involved the accident are ok no matter what nationality they are :rolleyes:

    No argument there. Completely agree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭ScubaDave


    Lads - this discussion has gone way off topic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    ArseBurger wrote: »
    Why point out the nationality of the driver? Would you have pointed out the nationality of an Irish or English driver? Doubt it.

    Right I'm not going off topic again after this.
    Have you ever read a newspaper man? If a foreign national is murdered, the nationality is always emphasised, if a foreign national is arrested for stabbing someone, the nationality is always mentioned. No doubt an Irish person's nationality would be mentioned if the same happened abroad. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that anyway. One poster mentioned the world is too pc these days, frankly he's right. (Sorry he/she)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    frankly he's right. (Sorry he/she)
    Me names seanybiker how can I be a she lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Me names seanybiker how can I be a she lol.

    You can never be too careful, a solicitor might be watching


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Garda Vehicles are involved in road accidents regularly. They rarely make the news unless someone dies. Traffic Bike in limerick has regularly come off second best after the dimwitted actions of the public.
    I fail to see the point of this thread.
    Apart from wishing all involved a fast and full recovery of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭BizPost


    The fact the thread is called "exclusive" when there's people injured personally I think is a bit distasteful. Just an opinion.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    It was the photo that was exclusive I believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    Right I'm not going off topic again after this.
    Have you ever read a newspaper man? If a foreign national is murdered, the nationality is always emphasised, if a foreign national is arrested for stabbing someone, the nationality is always mentioned. No doubt an Irish person's nationality would be mentioned if the same happened abroad. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that anyway. One poster mentioned the world is too pc these days, frankly he's right. (Sorry he/she)

    How do you know the driver was nigerian ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    The nationality of the driver is not the topic of consversation so as PSNI has already pointed out, no more discussion of his nationality please. TBH its a mute point anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Hope everyone is well. Taxi drivers are the same the world over.

    The Nog, sorry for being pedantic but it's a "moot point". I was pulled on that here on boards, had to pass it on :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    psni wrote: »
    I have removed the picture until we know the condition of the Garda who is being treated.

    Please refer to the forum charter on this which states:

    "Pictures of incidents such as car crashes in particular those involving fatalities should have all number plates blanked and not be easily identifiable as to the exact incident. Please use your head on this and be sensitive to those who were involved in the incident and be aware that such photos may be considered evidence.
    Be sure to give a description of the image except in cases of fatalities or serious injuries"

    Until we know more, I will ask you to keep this picture to yourself?

    Thanks.

    Without wanting to get on the wrong side of a mod - a fair question here I believe - what would be wrong with faces/reg blanked and showing the picture? Perhaps he could edit it etc...?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    What would be wrong is we could have a picture of a corpse on the forum.

    See the bit where I said: "Until we know more"? That's because we don't know the condition of the injured person, and I think it would in poor taste if this forum were to allow pictures of injured people which may be a snapshot of their last living moments.

    Hope that answers.
    sdonn wrote: »
    Without wanting to get on the wrong side of a mod - a fair question here I believe - what would be wrong with faces/reg blanked and showing the picture? Perhaps he could edit it etc...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    psni wrote: »
    It was the photo that was exclusive I believe.

    Correct, I wasn't trying to be distasteful.
    psni wrote: »
    What would be wrong is we could have a picture of a corpse on the forum.

    See the bit where I said: "Until we know more"? That's because we don't know the condition of the injured person, and I think it would in poor taste if this forum were to allow pictures of injured people which may be a snapshot of their last living moments.

    Hope that answers.

    I have heard from one of the witnesses of the accident that the female Guard who had a suspected spinal injury had simply pulled a muscle in her lower back as a result of the impact. She is expected to make a full recovery from her other injuries. The passenger in the taxi suffered cuts and bruises to his face as he was thrown forward with the impact. He has been released from hospital. I am requesting that the moderator now close the thread as I feel that it is going nowhere. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    ....and why does the Gardas sex have anything to do with the subject at hand? (I'm taking it as a given that your witness is a medical expert who treated the person involved)

    Thank God there wasn't a female Nigerian taxi driver involved here, or this thread might have been confusing to some Herdlt readers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭civildefence


    deadwood wrote: »
    ....and why does the Gardas sex have anything to do with the subject at hand? (I'm taking it as a given that your witness is a medical expert who treated the person involved)

    Thank God there wasn't a female Nigerian taxi driver involved here, or this thread might have been confusing to some Herdlt readers!

    Jesus Christ are you for real? Do you have a problem with fact? This is taking political correctness to a ridiculous level.
    And for your information, the witness knows this because when he made a statement in the copshop, he asked how she was and that's the answer he received. I have pm'd the moderator asking to close this thread because of this nonsense thats being posted.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Ok lads an update, nobody was injured in this accident. Spinal boards were as a precaution only.

    Material damage accident.

    There is roughly about one accident a day involving a garda car. And 80% of these accidents the driver is a qualified (passed the driving course) driver.

    Nothing new here.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Now that we know there were no injuries, here is the original picture:


This discussion has been closed.
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