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side saddle advice

  • 29-05-2009 9:22pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭


    i can,t seem to get any help in Ireland for side saddle advice .
    i can seem to find side saddles for sale in the limerick.kerry,cork area.
    i can,t find side saddle accessories in Ireland in the way of side saddle canes veils side saddle nunmah 3 fold girths stirrup leathers, balance girth riding habits etc.
    i have to pay a lot of money to buy from england and find websites.
    i find hard to find help and advice in side saddle.
    i find it very hard to find side saddle lessons in the county limerick,county kerry area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    Have you tried the side saddle association? I think there's a link in the other 'side saddle' thread which was in use pretty recently (see below or on the next page)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    hi convert that was the first place i tried i email them about 9 times and no answer.when i phone i don,t get much there either.i wrote by hand to side saddle lady in the north and no reply either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can side saddle be actual done on budget is it possible. because it took 3 years of very very hard saving and commitment to save for 2 hand side saddle 50 euros a week and thats just the saddle without all the accessories and riding habit or the hat .but i ride astride and its sort of cheap.
    i family in at horse show i was talking to a women she said her 2 grown daughters in there 20s both doing side saddle in the ring and as well astride.
    like how can some people afford it and others can,t. but not one daughter but two daughters.with side saddles,riding habits,canes,veils so on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Red_Marauder


    ladylouise wrote: »
    can side saddle be actual done on budget is it possible
    To be honest, not really - there is no comparison with riding astride in terms of cost. My Mother and my sisters also ride sidesaddle and it is a very expensive business for the initial cost, there is just no way of getting around that unfortunately.

    Well done on showing an interest in preserving this tradition though, it's good that it is being kept alive, although I do think the pool of current riders are ageing (quite gracefully!) and shrinking in number - compared to a few generations ago when women riding astride were frowned upon (husseys:P).

    It's just a pity that the cost is so prohibitive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    where in Munster like,co,limerick,co,kerry,co cork i can buy a good 2nd hand side saddle of brand like , champion& wilton or mayhew for less then 1000euros.
    is there any side saddle like that about with stirrup, and stirrup leather.girth and balance strap,and doe skin on the seat of the side saddle for grip.

    sort of newish riding habit for sale any where even mail order in ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 cavangirl21


    Hi,
    I got a side saddle habit made up by a tailor who specialises in hunting coats. It was a first for him, but I borrowed a habit of a friend and he copied it and then fitted it to me. It turned out beautiful and wasn't as expensive but of better quaility than the others i'd seen. Keep trying to get in touch with Liz Sanford near Drumree co Meath or Julie Brindley O Brien near Dunshaughlin co Meath as they were both very helpful to me and set me up with an instructor etc. You could also go to a show with a side saddle class and talk to some of the competitiors as that's how I started and made my contacts. You can pm me for Liz' number if you like.
    Cavan girl


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    hi cavan girl i contact the side saddle association of ireland they didn,t have any time to give me help there were at shows and sales stc.i wrote to liz sanford and i got small bit of information but thats all.i emailed juile got no reply .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    I know the well-known makes of saddle are probably the best quality saddles, but it might be cheaper to buy a 'non branded' second hand saddle than one of a well known make. If it fits you and your horse properly and works for you, then it shouldn't be a problem. Plus, if it's second hand, then it's already broken in and probably won't spread or change shape much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can any one give me good side saddle websites that are too dear.
    where is the best place to buy a very good conditioned 2nd hand side saddle with all the fittings at less then 1000 euros, champion and wilton with doe skin seat or mayhew


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    I would be very wary of a non branded or new looking side saddle.

    Internally ss have a different construction to astride, if the internal is wrong it can still look normal on the outside but will damage the horse.

    There are two things that needs to be kept in mind - quality of materials used and skill used in construction.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    is side saddle scary starting off .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    is there any place in Ireland thats sells side saddle habits .thats isn,t expensive .buying from england in not option its too expensive and having one is not option either.

    any help there?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭MDFM


    Put an ad on donedeal.ie and/or buyandsell, stating you want side saddle and information to go along with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can girls do side saddle while living on the dole or on low paying job.
    do you think the side saddle rules should be adjusted for the less well off.by bending the rules of side saddle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Area11


    do you think the side saddle rules should be adjusted for the less well off

    Hello, I am from Area 11 of the Side Saddle Association, http://www.sidesaddleassociationarea11.co.uk/

    I'm afraid the rules can not be adjusted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    Area11 wrote: »
    Hello, I am from Area 11 of the Side Saddle Association, http://www.sidesaddleassociationarea11.co.uk/

    I'm afraid the rules can not be adjusted.
    why.i don,t understand.like the use of cheaper side saddle equipment.
    instead of leather riding glove why not cotton riding gloves.top hat why not velvet hard hat, instead side saddle cane use a dressage whip,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Area11


    No such thing as cheaper side saddle equipment.

    How the competitor is dressed is all part of competing. The wearing of a hard hat is only allowed in the jumping classes and must be worn by Juniors at all times. The wearing of top hats and bowlers depends on what time of day it is. Leather gloves must be worn, black gloves can not be worn unless the rider is in mourning.

    If you do not comply with the rules then you would never get placed in any of the competitions and would always be placed last.

    A lot of riders hire the clothing and saddles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    does those rules apply to england and Ireland is it just england.
    area 11 did you ever competed in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    where in Munster i can buy 2nd hand Karl Niedersuss side saddle for reasonable price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 susanoakes


    Hi There
    I may be able to help you. i have been involved in side saddle all my life and I'm a qualified side saddle saddler, its my hobbie. I also judge alot and give lessons. I have a champion & wilton side saddle for sale with doeskin seat and pommels, its in excellent condition.I want it to go to someone that will use it and look after it and have funny in it. Its valued at 2000 euro but I'd take 800euro for it without any extras or 1000euro full mounted. I aslo have 2 side saddle habits and a top hat and veils. If I can Help you at all in anyway just get back to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can any one give me more help like the side saddle tack and side saddle attire for the irish horses show becasue i don,t know.are there different rules to england i am a full year trying to find out and i still don,t know.can some one help me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can a very heavy girl (me)do side saddle due to large thighs.will being heavy weigh the side saddle too much and would large thighs not the top pommels.would it be too much for the horse???????????????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    why is side saddle still so expensive in the recession.
    and astride is is getting cheaper how is that.
    that side saddle tack is so dear during the recession.shouldn,t the prices be lessing don,t they want to sell there side saddle,canes , veils for less and not more.and yet the astride is getting cheaper and is popular and side saddle is still very dear and not so popular


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭napoles


    In a word yes... When you ride side-saddle you cannot obviously do rising trot and if you are very heavy, than that combined with the weight of the side-saddle is an awful lot on a horse's back. Personally I think that very overweight riders would be better not to ride side-saddle. Riders should have to consider the horse in all of this aside from what it is that THEY would like to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    I'm not even sure what forum this should be in. Horse Racing?

    --

    Moved. Local mod, please deal with as appropriate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    ladylouise wrote: »
    can a very heavy girl (me)do side saddle due to large thighs.will being heavy weigh the side saddle too much and would large thighs not the top pommels.would it be too much for the horse???????????????

    Depends whether or not you are a balanced rider.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    thanks for all your advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 sunnyholly


    Hi, i'm just wondering if anyone knows whats the maximum length for a whip or cane in the junior side saddle classes?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    does any one know any saddlery in Ireland who side saddles ,habits ,veils ,canes ,
    2nd hand or brand new must be good quality and be very reasonable price.
    like for example 20 euros for side saddle cane that reasonable.

    no crazy prices for example 6000 euros for 2nd hand side saddle like those crazy prices.

    buying on extremely low low budget.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Kamili


    ladylouise wrote: »
    buying on extremely low low budget.


    You're probably better off trying to save more instead of plunging in too quickly if you have an extremely low low budget. You don't want to be buying something that will damage your horses health, and fall apart quickly either. The equipment would stand to you if you spend more money on it.

    As suggested by previous posters, why not contact the side saddle association, or even see if you can hire the equipment you need? You've been offered a saddle in good condition for very cheap also would you not take a look at that?

    The association will be able to answer your questions and even suggest placed to hire/buy the equipment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Gillbab


    Hi,

    Do you still have the saddle/habits that you mentioned in your post? And if you do, how would I contact you? I'm new to this boards.ie thing!!

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    gillbab

    i have none i am looking for them my self.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    There was a thread on side saddle back in March and one poster mentioned that the side saddle association rented saddles. Maybe that could help you initially?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    i want to show my horse side saddle .
    can a snaffle bridle be used in the senior side saddle .
    i have Pelham bridle but i am not 100% sure how to use the double reins.
    i was going to buy double bridle with rugby jointed Pelham bit .
    can a Aussie bridle also be used in snaffle bit too?
    can experice side saddle rider help me there because i am not sure what to do which bridle is allowed because i am not very experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    ladylouise wrote: »
    i want to show my horse side saddle .
    can a snaffle bridle be used in the senior side saddle .
    i have Pelham bridle but i am not 100% sure how to use the double reins.
    i was going to buy double bridle with rugby jointed Pelham bit .

    For most showing classes you should really use a double bridle or pelham with double reins, not with a D ring. While I have seen people show horses in snaffles, they haven't tended to do very well.

    If you don't know how to use the double reins, perhaps you could ask an experienced person you know to help you learn how to use them properly. I've seen so many horse's mouths destroyed by people using double reins who didn't use them correctly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    there is no body to ask .the riding schools don,t have time to teach the double reins. because there have to many students coming in and out.can Pelham roundings be used the show class.you see i came from the horse racing side of things,so i don,t know too much about showing .all i know is the curb is on the inside and snaffle rein in on out side .with curb having more length then snaffle bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    There are a number of books on advanced riding, using double bridles and/or double reins, which could be of assistance to you. Have a look in some of the saddlery shops, or talk to some instructors to see if they could recommend some books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    can i used a racing bit hunting horse becasue my full size bridle is small?
    oh yeah o breins saddlery cork sell side saddle equiment .
    habits,veils,top hats,side saddle covers,canes,stirrup leathers,stirrups,reins,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭MDFM


    Just purely out of interest, have you ever ridden side-saddle before or do you have much experience of side saddle riding? Is just something you wish to try out or venture into in a competitive way? From what i've read here so far, it seems an expensive equestrian sport, just wondering if its something you are going into with no experience or not have even tried before, and if this is the case, is it something you will like or adapt to easily?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    MDFM wrote: »
    Just purely out of interest, have you ever ridden side-saddle before or do you have much experience of side saddle riding? Is just something you wish to try out or venture into in a competitive way? From what i've read here so far, it seems an expensive equestrian sport, just wondering if its something you are going into with no experience or not have even tried before, and if this is the case, is it something you will like or adapt to easily?
    some thing i hope to do for long time .i know who rides side saddle in RDS Dublin who might give few lessons.i am just trying to see how i get on and see if like it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    I use a racing bit on my horse all the time; hunting, showjumping, hunter trialling and some basic flatwork, but if I'm going to do showing or more advanced flat work I'll usu a pelham.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    what is the best girth for side saddle beside the 3 fold leather girth or fiitzwillam girth.
    girth on a budget


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    what the difference between a plain vagabond and plain atherstone girth?
    so what is the difference?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 michicks


    Hey guys,
    Just wondering if anyone on here knows much about side saddle riding?
    I am looking to get started in it. I have tried to contact the side saddle ass of ireland but never get an answer!:mad: I want to rent a saddle out for the winter to get practice before the showing season starts and also to see if i like before i invest in all the equipment.
    Anyone any tips or suggestions for me or can anyone help me.:confused: I live in kildare and need all advice. I know nothing about it but my horse is an expert, thats all i have going for me at the moment! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭wiggy123


    check out michicks


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