Kevin Myers article

gilly0512

While the murder of Kevin Mc Daid in Coleraine was a disgrace, carried out by monsters who would just love to see the troubles start up again, I was just wondering have any of you read Kevin Myers article in today's Indo in which he is very critical of the PSNI, and what are your own opinions?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/there-is-no-substitute-for-lethal-force-in-certain-policing-situations-1754740.html

mega man

gilly2308 wrote: »

While the murder of Kevin Mc Daid in Coleraine was a disgrace, carried out by monsters who would just love to see the troubles start up again, I was just wondering have any of you read Kevin Myers article in today's Indo in which he is very critical of the PSNI, and what are your own opinions?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/there-is-no-substitute-for-lethal-force-in-certain-policing-situations-1754740.html

The way i see it, the psni didn't want to shoot one of there own.
The psni still only serves one community in that god forsaken place.

the locust

Northern Ireland is an abnormal society to police, you can't police it the way An Garda Siochana or British police services do... The psni do a great job...
That reporter will never comprehend what it takes to operate in an environment like the north. Absolute vultures those guys are... its the killings and screw ups that sell papers they always keep that in mind...

sickpuppy32

mega man wrote: »

The way i see it, the psni didn't want to shoot one of there own.
The psni still only serves one community in that god forsaken place.

A lot of the PSNI lads are from the south

gilly0512

mega man wrote: »

The way i see it, the psni didn't want to shoot one of there own.
The psni still only serves one community in that god forsaken place.

I definitely would not agree with that comment, while arguably its something you could possibly have thrown at the RUC, I would have to say that the PSNI are an excellent Police Force, and probably one of the most scrutinised Police forces in the world.

mega man

mega man wrote: »

The way i see it, the psni didn't want to shoot one of there own.
The psni still only serves one community in that god forsaken place.

You care to back up that statement? And remember that the republican parties support the PSNI now.

TheNog

gilly2308 wrote: »

While the murder of Kevin Mc Daid in Coleraine was a disgrace, carried out by monsters who would just love to see the troubles start up again, I was just wondering have any of you read Kevin Myers article in today's Indo in which he is very critical of the PSNI, and what are your own opinions?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/there-is-no-substitute-for-lethal-force-in-certain-policing-situations-1754740.html

Kevin Myers article is an opinion but an opinion based on all the events of the incident including the result of the incident too. He and everyone else has the benefit of hindsight which the two PSNI officers did not have during the incident and therefore could not know the outcome would be the death of an innocent man.

His off handed insults of the PSNI and fanciful rememberances of the RUC are a short sightedness that fortunately for the people of Northern Ireland were not in any way involved the creation of the peace process. The movement from the RUC over to the days of the PSNI was a fresh start from hate and mistrust to hope of a more peaceful country.

Therefore I find his article not in the least informative but merely the extension of his own ego from a man who quite possibily has never been faced with difficult decisions which may or may not save a life.

deadwood

Have any of you actually read the article? Read again folks.

He's not criticising the police, but the system within which they now have to operate.

deadwood

deadwood wrote: »

Have any of you actually read the article? Read again folks.

He's not criticising the police, but the system within which they now have to operate.

He states in the article that PSNI officers left the scene when a gang turned up. He also says that they did nothing when people were being attacked. He seems to be the only person who has said this so far. He needs to provide proof that this happened.

Today's Sunday Times offers a slightly different account of this story.

...When loyalists from nearby streets objected, a police sergeant was called in to mediate and a deal was struck allowing the tricolours to remain for the rest of the day, provided they were taken down the next morning. Police then withdrew, leaving just two officers in a marked car.

Shortly after they left, a crowd of about 30 loyalists, seemingly unaware of any agreement, advanced on the area with the intention of taking down the bunting...

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Trojan911

gilly2308 wrote: »

I was just wondering have any of you read Kevin Myers article in today's Indo in which he is very critical of the PSNI, and what are your own opinions?

I think it is well written, to be honest.

I can see very little criticism of the PSNI. All other criticism I noticed appeared to be aimed at the perspective governments in the North & South.

goldie fish

Both Governments seem to have a "fingers crossed"/"head in the sand" attitude to the "situation". If it was not for the vigilance of the respective police forces(in spite of continued obstruction from certain political areas) the shooting war would be back on.

the fella who

What is most worrying about the murder of Kevin McDaid, was the lacklustre condemnations of the unionist politicans, it shows a latent disrespect for the nationalist community, which will never disappear.