Chevy Camaro

juma

Recently I can into some money (I didn’t win the Lotto or anything but I am now quite well off financially). Anyways I’ve been looking to splash some cash on a new car, one that I have wanted for a long time, a Chevrolet Camaro. Loved the 1st and 2nd Generation Camaro’s but it’s the new one (the 5th Generation one http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/ ) that I want. Is it possible to get one in Ireland and what price would I be looking at?

spank_inferno

I'd wonder myself too. The car looks pretty cool.
I think its $22,000 or 17000 euro in the USA. I doubt they will be making a right-hand drive version, Perhaps looking at importing might be worth considering?

JHMEG

You'd have to import it yourself, or get a specialist importer to do it for you.

KF:)

Try http://www.americancarimports.com/ in the UK. Selling them for £27500, the ring the vrt office for a quote.

Berty

Now I may be wrong and I will eat my own hair If I am wrong.

Somebody has to say it.

Yeah right!! How many of these threads come online every week?

*Sniff Sniff

Seth Brundle

17000 + 21.5% VAT + 36%? VRT + import fees
Still good value!
Check that insurers will cover you before you buy!

juma

That was the price I was thinking and I'd be happy with that, but could it be got in right hand drive?

Redsoxfan

I really like the look of it-and the new Dodge Challenger as well.

JHMEG

juma wrote: »

That was the price I was thinking and I'd be happy with that, but could it be got in right hand drive?

No.

Also you would want to be looking at the top models, not the V6. The LS3 V8 powered model is the one to go for. A Camaro without a V8 aint a real Camaro

juma

I think 3.6 would be more than enough for me!why do they sell these sort of cars over here in right hand drive, surely would be a big seller

JHMEG

It's a big heavy car and the 3.6 is the base model. If it was a Ford Focus it'd be the 1.4. If it was a 3-series it'd be a 316i.

The LS V8 engine is as much a part of the legend as the car itself is.

Not many people are happy stumping up €2000 a year road tax. That's why they're not a big seller.

Biro

THey don't even sell the Corvette in RHD.

cashmni1

Berty wrote: »

Now I may be wrong and I will eat my own hair If I am wrong.

Somebody has to say it.

Yeah right!! How many of these threads come online every week?

*Sniff Sniff

While I would normally agree with you Berty, there is something believable about this person.
They explained that they came into money but did not give away just how or why. Also it is kinda believable that someone would want an American muscle car when they are able to afford such a luxury.
This person also has an idea at least of what the car costs and seems to be able to put their question across without insulting people.
However I saw one last week (maybe this week) they said they "saved" 100k euro, and wanted a babe magnet. The same person could not write very well (I'm not great either) but the grammar looked like a teenagers.
Anyway, I'm not casting aspersions here - on anyone and i certainly don't want to Pi** any mods off**
So, either they are genuine or got me really fooled. Either way, I hope the OP gets a nice one. (and posts pics for us all to see later)











**I was away for a few weeks and when I came back everyone seems to be mods......what happened?
LM and AC - congrats are in order.

alias no.9

kbannon wrote: »

17000 + 21.5% VAT + 36%? VRT + import fees
Still good value!
Check that insurers will cover you before you buy!

(17000+shipping+insurance)+10%CCT+21.5%VAT+(36% x Magic Number Pulled from VRT Officials Arse)

Matt Simis

Given the 3.6 and 6.1 will be taxed the same here (assuming both over 215g C02) and the 6.1 is the top of the line engine, which makes it more desirable resale wise, get that assuming there isnt a massive $ premium. At least however the 3.6 isnt like the Mustang V6 with its pitiful Golf GTI level performance, its around 300bhp.

PS: Dont write in black/dark text, its invisible in some of the alternate boards skins.
PPS: Thank god this didnt happen:
http://www.motorauthority.com/lutz-possible-four-cylinder-mill-for-new-camaro.html
They really need to import a Jap or Euro engine if they want small but fast.

Seth Brundle

alias no.9 wrote: »

(17000+shipping+insurance)+10%CCT+21.5%VAT+(36% x Magic Number Pulled from VRT Officials Arse)

CHeers - I didn't think of the CCT.
Are shipping and insurance subject to the VRT (VAT would be placed on the shipping regardless but I presume not on insurance)?

unkel

kbannon wrote: »

Are shipping and insurance subject to the VRT

No. VRT is completely unrelated to what you pay for the car (to get it over here). It is only based on the open market selling price - a figure made up by the VRO. If you get the Camaro landed for say €20k and the VRO state the OMSP is €100k, then you'll have to pay €36k in VRT (36% of €100k)

bazz26

God only knows what OMSP Revenue would come with for a Camaro since the car was never officially sold here.

OP just be aware that if you do buy this car, you will be stuck with it for life, unless you manage to find someone else who shares your passion. These cars have little or no market in Ireland because of the associated running costs of them here compared to the US.

juma

Berty wrote: »

Now I may be wrong and I will eat my own hair If I am wrong.

Somebody has to say it.

Yeah right!! How many of these threads come online every week?

*Sniff Sniff

Seriously, why would I make this up? What would I have to gain from it?

Anyways, back to topic. The money being mentioned, I would pay, But I wont drive a left hand drive car. Why oh why cant they come in right hand drive!!!

niceirishfella

juma wrote: »

Why oh why cant they come in right hand drive!!!

Because they are made for the US market.

Big Nasty

It's part of the whole experience anyhow - a muscle car is supposed to LHD and V8!

Flyboy!!!

I would suggest that before you fork out a lot of lolly for such a car, take a holiday to the States, hire one and take it for a drive. That's a big investment in a car you might find you detest once you actually drive it. The suspension on a lot of those cars makes them feel like a boat compared to their European counterparts and the build quality is more often than not, quite naff. There are any number of other cars out there that are just as good looking and do actually handle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZseBpPufLI&feature=fvsr

For a driving holiday, I'd pick the Pacific Coast Highway, beautifull scenary and great driving road. I had great fun over there blasting up the inside of such muscle cars in a fifteen year old 1.6 MX5 on not even the tightest of corners. You could also checkout the Australian market, the have muscle cars and they drive on our side of our road.

Muckie

Nice car, also i think its pretty cool that your buying something

different that the fella's you see flying around in porsche's with

there 911 plates. If i had a few bob i'd do the same.

Be different.

Eoin

Flyboy!!! wrote: »

I would suggest that before you fork out a lot of lolly for such a car, take a holiday to the States, hire one and take it for a drive.

For a driving holiday, I'd pick the Pacific Coast Highway, beautifull scenary and great driving road.

That's a great idea.

Though remember that not everyone really needs a car that can be thrown about, and I'd say a lot of people who buy cars that do handle well never drive them as they are meant to.

I can totally understand wanting to get a nice cruiser that looks the part. And these cars really do look good IMO. They're huge though; I'd say much bigger than what I'd call a Euro or Japanese rival coupé.

Berty

juma wrote: »

Seriously, why would I make this up? What would I have to gain from it?

Precisely, they gain nothing from it.

You normally get the fiesta/starlet crowd visiting forum, registering and then asking questions about "Where can I buy a Veyron?" or similar.

Reading your responses to the responses Im becoming a believer that you may possibly be of the ability to afford such a car.

If you would not drive LHD in this country and I tried in a Mustang around 2 months ago(do not recommend it) then there are many other Muscle cars that you can import RHD.

How about a Cadillac CTS?

You wont see many of those about.

Nissan GT-R?

Nforce

If it were me that was shopping for an American motor...and unfortunately it's not:o....I'd go for a classic 60's/70's muscle car. Cheap tax n' insurance and MUCH cooler (imho) than any Stateside modern metal.

CianRyan

Seconding the Pacific Coast Highway, never been but i've seen plenty of videos and it really does look great.

Some great footage of it here. The car aint to shabby either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XS5UBUiDvg

Do-more

If it were me, I'd go for a good restomod Camaro something like this one, starts on button with a modern Corvette fuel injected engine, good brakes, suspension, power steering etc. classic looks, only €50 VRT cheap road tax, cheap classic insurance and will probably hold it's value better than a new one. Not for the purists but...

Rowley Birkin QC

^^ Wow, that is one clean 42 year old car.

Would the customs and that not have an issue with the fact that probably 90% of the car is brand new? Or is it only the date of first registration and the spec at that time that they look at?

Do-more

bigkev49 wrote: »

Would the customs and that not have an issue with the fact that probably 90% of the car is brand new? Or is it only the date of first registration and the spec at that time that they look at?

As long as the VIN on the chassis plate and title deeds match they have no issue with "modified" cars of that age.


OP if you have your heart set on a RHD car, you may find that the classic Camaro can be converted. I know that in the sixties a number of Mustangs were converted to be sold in OZ. IIRC it was illegal to have a LHD car there then. If you check out some Aussie classic Chevy forums you may find out more.

_Kaiser_

Do-more wrote: »

OP if you have your heart set on a RHD car, you may find that the classic Camaro can be converted. I know that in the sixties a number of Mustangs were converted to be sold in OZ. IIRC it was illegal to have a LHD car there then. If you check out some Aussie classic Chevy forums you may find out more.

I remember seeing a Top Gear a few years back where Jeremy was testing a RHD Camaro (or was it a Corvette?) Either way they were being built this way from the factory as I recall.

juma

Sorry to be dragging up this old thread of mine!

I am still lusting after a Camaro and a trip to the US back in Feburary did little to ease my urge to own one!!

But after a lot of research and a need for a right hand drive car I have given up on owning one (well as long as Im living in this country!). Anyways I was wondering is there any similarly designed cars out there in a RHD?

Eoin

I'm 90% sure I saw a RHD Mustang on carzone linked to from here a short while ago.

Eric Cartman

if you can go for the top of the line 2SS model with the V8 , whether your keeping it or selling it on youd still enjoy it far more with the v8, If you do buy it we all expect pics

Max_Damage

eoin wrote: »

I'm 90% sure I saw a RHD Mustang on carzone linked to from here a short while ago.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1311494

Matt Simis

juma wrote: »

But after a lot of research and a need for a right hand drive car I have given up on owning one (well as long as Im living in this country!). Anyways I was wondering is there any similarly designed cars out there in a RHD?

There are plenty of cars that are more powerful or drive better. But none of them is a V8 Camaro.. It would be pointless to debate whats most like it from a Euro perspective, they dont have the look and presence that is key to what the Camaro is selling.



You drove one in the US yeah? Me too, the visibility out the windows is similar to driving a Sherman tank in WWII yeah?

Mickk

juma wrote: »

Sorry to be dragging up this old thread of mine!

I am still lusting after a Camaro and a trip to the US back in Feburary did little to ease my urge to own one!!

But after a lot of research and a need for a right hand drive car I have given up on owning one (well as long as Im living in this country!). Anyways I was wondering is there any similarly designed cars out there in a RHD?

RHD Camaro's came very close to being made...
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2010/112_1003_no_right_hand_drive_chevrolet_camaro/index.html

stealthyspeeder

juma wrote: »

But after a lot of research and a need for a right hand drive car I have given up on owning one (well as long as Im living in this country!). Anyways I was wondering is there any similarly designed cars out there in a RHD?

Max_Damage

^ Or anything Oz for that mater.

jimmycrackcorm

unkel wrote: »

No. VRT is completely unrelated to what you pay for the car (to get it over here). It is only based on the open market selling price - a figure made up by the VRO. If you get the Camaro landed for say €20k and the VRO state the OMSP is €100k, then you'll have to pay €36k in
VRT (36% of €100k)

It should be quite easy to appeal the VRT on the basis that the OMSP had to beer low because very few people would be willing to shell out money for both car and tax these days so the market price is basically close to the calculated price bard on the original cost from the US

Vertakill

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

It should be quite easy to appeal the VRT on the basis that the OMSP had to beer low because very few people would be willing to shell out money for both car and tax these days so the market price is basically close to the calculated price bard on the original cost from the US

While that makes perfect logic to people like ourselves, Revenue would laugh in your face if you tried presenting that 'few people would be willing to shell out money for both car and tax these days' as your argument for lowering the OMSP.

You could say that about any car in the max tax bracket really.

gigabit

Vertakill wrote: »

While that makes perfect logic to people like ourselves, Revenue would laugh in your face if you tried presenting that 'few people would be willing to shell out money for both car and tax these days' as your argument for lowering the OMSP.

You could say that about any car in the max tax bracket really.

If I had lotsa cash then this is the one for me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-2SS-Camaro-2010-CHEVY-CAMARO-2SS-RED-JEWEL-MOONROOF-BRAND-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem563c8ba2cbQQitemZ370382971595QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks


How can revenue decide an omsp value for a car that does not exist here.

http://motors.shop.ebay.co.uk/Cars-/9801/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A7%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_nkw=camaro&_catref=1&_dmpt=Automobiles_UK&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=1&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2492&_nkw=camaro&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1



Why don't car companies tell revenue a much lower price for omsp, then charge a higher delivery charge?

Big Nasty

gigabit wrote: »

Why don't car companies tell revenue a much lower price for omsp, then charge a higher delivery charge?

Actually, that's a cracking idea! List price: 25k + 10k tax = 35k, fuel: 0.70 / liter + 0.60 tax = 1.30, etc. Would make people stop and think - you can bet the majority of people have no idea how much tax they pay on cars or fuel or anything for that matter.

Pkiernan

juma wrote: »

That was the price I was thinking and I'd be happy with that, but could it be got in right hand drive?

If RHD is an absolute necessity, it can be done in America - takes about 12 weeks ,and you will be looking at real money!

Here are some examples of finished RHD US vehicles avaliable for export:

http://www.uswd.com/vehicleinventory.htm

mstan

If your still interested in getting a Camaro I came across this on the auto trader:
http://www.autotrader.ie/search/Chevrolet/Camaro/201025198483486/advert?channel=CARS