Hitlers Brother lived in Dublin

triple-M

(misspelled the title should say brother)While chatting to the lads on the way home from work this evening one of them insisted that Hitler had a brother who worked and lived in Dublin,im just wondering if anybody could verify this for me or is it all just made up?
Thanks

Quick google gives this:



And... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Dowling

triple-M

oh no!,now I owe the lads lunch tomorrow,thanks for the quick response

mike65

Brian Hitler?

McCruiskeen

I have heard this story before.

Hitler's half brother, Alois lived in Dublin briefly and married an Irish girl. This was well before WWII however.

They had a kid with an unlikely name, Paddy Hitler.

Wishbone Ash

Yes, Adolf Hitler's brother was a waiter in the Shelbourne Hotel.

mike65

So Comical Ali brother and Hilters brother? Feck sake the Yanks have been blowing chunks out of Afganistan for years, clearly they are looking in the wrong places.




























Just get Osama Bin Ladens brother and do a deal!

GhostInTheRuins

That's mad, I never knew any of this.

Zebra3

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Yes, Adolf Hitler's brother was a waiter in the Shelbourne Hotel.

There was a great article some time back in the Shelbourne FC matchday programme entitled "Shelbourne and the Hitler Connection".

Imagine my initial surprise!!!

Latchy

Actually Hitler it seems had a irish relatives and Hitler himself is supposed to have stayed in Liverpool before the war .His brother , paddy ( no i kid you not ) apparently satyed in dublin .This was an article in one of the british sunday papers about 4 years ago .

FiSe

A bit of sensationalism here?

I personally doubt that Alois Hitler Jr. ever met THE Hitler in person... One father, but two different families seems to me.

Nevertheless half-brother...

brownbinman

i wouldnt say anyone started on him during the 30's and 40's

humanji

Actually, I think they had met. I remember reading some article years ago (I'll have to try and dig it up) about Adolph wanting his half-brother working for him, but the half-brother wasn't to keen on what Hitler was up to and moved to England. It was something like that. As I said, I'll try and figure out where I got that.

What I thought was a bit sad is that the 3 surviving members of the bloodline decided that they would never have children so that their family dies out with them. Granted, this could be just an excuse for being rubbish with the ladies.

Morlar

He (Hitler's brother) married a girl from Kilnamanagh in Tallaght.

Denerick

Poor Paddy Hitler

Morlar

Denerick wrote: »

Poor Paddy Hitler

Come on now, Tallaght isn't that bad.

Zebra3

I assume he later took a job here in some "religious" organisation.

Denerick

Come on now... Even under the theocracy, few catholics would have paid much heed to Father Hitler.

hivizman

I remember reading the novel by Beryl Bainbridge Young Adolf, which was based around the story that Adolf Hitler visited his half-brother and family in Liverpool some time before the First World War. Ian Kershaw, in his biography Hitler - 1889-1936: Hubris (Allen Lane, 1998) refers in an endnote to The Memoirs of Bridget Hitler, published in 1979: "These 'memoirs' (which include the tall story of Hitler's alleged stay in Liverpool in 1912) are notoriously unreliable" (p. 706). Kershaw himself notes that, during the period 1911-1912, "Hitler's life recedes into near obscurity" (p. 56), but he places Hitler in Vienna from late in 1912, just when the alleged visit to Liverpool is supposed to have taken place.

It's a shame any visit didn't take place in 1911, or Hitler might have been listed on the 1911 Census. This shows one "Anton" Hitler living in Toxteth Park, Liverpool, with his wife "Cissie" and one-month old son William.

There's more information on Bridget and Alois Hitler here.

97i9y3941

yes it is true,like as mentioned,his half brother alois did marry an irish woman,i remember history channel did the story about it.

Red Hand

hivizman wrote: »

I remember reading the novel by Beryl Bainbridge Young Adolf, which was based around the story that Adolf Hitler visited his half-brother and family in Liverpool some time before the First World War.

Very funny book, well worth reading.

hivizman

Perfect timing! The documentary "The Hitler Family" is being shown tonight on Channel 4 at 8:00PM. If you can't get Channel 4, then there's a good chance that the programme will be available for the next few weeks on their website: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/catch-up.

Added later: The programme doesn't in fact seem to be on Channel 4 Catch-up, but it's available on YouTube - search for "Hitler's Family".

CDfm

Bridget wrote her memoirs and claimed she credit for being the first to trim Adolfs moustache into that distinctive shape.

Paddy went on to join the US Navy during WWII and his enlisting officer was called Hess.

Dr Strange

Patrick Hitler actually worked for a time in Germany while the going was good. He apparently "pestered" Uncle Adolf for jobs and to keep him quiet and out of his way A. Hitler conceded somewhat. He (Adolf) just didn't want any publicity on his nephew/half nephew to come out. When it got tougher, Paddy got out and joined the US Army. Later they changed their names (obviously) so I don't think there is a Brian Hitler or anyone with that name as such.

MarchDub

A book on this subject , "The Last of the Hitlers" was published in 2002 or thereabouts. The name was changed to "Hiller" - here are two links to information on the family. Brigid and her son moved to the US.


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/275756/adolf_hitlers_american_relatives_the.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/nyregion/24patchogue.html?ex=1303531200&en=7e22c43e4e0997e6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

CDfm

Preusse wrote: »

so I don't think there is a Brian Hitler or anyone with that name as such.

Ah but there is a Brian son of Willy Hitler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Hitler

Dr Strange

CDfm wrote: »

Ah but there is a Brian son of Willy Hitler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Hitler

Ah, he just forgot not to cross that damn "t".

No, really, thanks, didn't know that.

CDfm

Preusse wrote: »

Ah, he just forgot not to cross that damn "t".

No, really, thanks, didn't know that.

And the potential Irish Relatives are not embarrassed about the connection at all:p

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=6baa56ed4d15b551a05c31b22b5821eb&topic=372466.0

walrusgumble

Latchy wrote: »

Actually Hitler it seems had a irish relatives and Hitler himself is supposed to have stayed in Liverpool before the war .His brother , paddy ( no i kid you not ) apparently satyed in dublin .This was an article in one of the british sunday papers about 4 years ago .

one of hitler's nephews fought for america during the war, i think he had published a book entitled something along the lines of "my uncle adolf". hitler still has family in america, but for obvious reasons, they ditched the hitler surname.

hitlersson666

omg... i have a irish half uncel??

CDfm

hitlersson666 wrote: »

omg... i have a irish half uncel??

He was quite a goer -he had Bridget, his Austrian wife and a mistress all on the go at the one time. There could be more of you.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/irish-hitlers-372377.html

CDfm

An interesting aside- after the war Bridget Hitler changed her surname to Stuart-Houston. Some say it was a reference to the British right wing writer who was a teeny bit anti-semetic Houston Stewart Chamberlain or as Hitler refered to him the "prophet of the Third Reich".

Sundew

Just spotted this thread and just wanted to add that there was an article probably in the early 90's in "The Sunday World" about " The Irish Connection. I think there was an interview with a Dowling relative and photos were reproduced in the article. Would be worth having a look at it again!

CDfm

Sundew wrote: »

Just spotted this thread and just wanted to add that there was an article probably in the early 90's in "The Sunday World" about " The Irish Connection. I think there was an interview with a Dowling relative and photos were reproduced in the article. Would be worth having a look at it again!

THat would be a cool read.:)

Rebelheart

One of those tabloid rags had this story in it about ten years ago with photographs of the alleged Brian Hitler in their paper. What did that man ever do to have that invasion into his privacy?

Christ, I truly detest tabloids. The libel and privacy laws need to be strengthened hugely in Ireland to stop the Ger Colleran types of this world.

nuac

Thanks Dónal for the family tree.

Glad to see what I had heard years ago, that Schickelbruger was the family name, and that it was later changed to Heidler or Hitler.

Would the Nazis have marched to victory and later defeat chanting "Heil Schickelbruger"

gobnaitolunacy

Sundew wrote: »

Just spotted this thread and just wanted to add that there was an article probably in the early 90's in "The Sunday World" about " The Irish Connection. I think there was an interview with a Dowling relative and photos were reproduced in the article. Would be worth having a look at it again!

Hmm the Sunday World. That glorified colouring book, hardly the place to go for historical source material.

Cody Pomeray

Here is 10 year old Bridget Dowling on the 1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Flemings_Place/1287727/
Fleming's Place is just off Mespil Road, on the Baggot Street side, near The Wellington Pub. There's a little laneway there, where you might sometimes see ladies of the night.

Here's the family again, in 1911, although by now Bridget has left and is married to Mr Hitler, and the Dowling's have moved house. Wikipedia says she shows up on the census in Liverpool.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Denzille_Street/81594/

Here is a William Dowling and a Brigid/ Bridget Reynolds who were married in Kilnamanagh in 1890 when the Census suggests they could have been married (census suggests either 1890 or 1891), can't find any other matching combinations in Dublin Church records. If this is the couple, the mother's married name was Reynolds.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bd00d80390333

Just mentioning this on the off chance someone using google enters in some of these key words doing a family search!

Citycap

There was a former Cork hurler, all Ireland winner, named Paddy Hitler Healy. He is related to Colin Healy ex Celtic FC and now playing for Cork City F.C.
Any connection to the Austrian Hitlers I wonder?

mickmackey1

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Here's the family again, in 1911, although by now Bridget has left and is married to Mr Hitler, and the Dowling's have moved house. Wikipedia says she shows up on the census in Liverpool.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Denzille_Street/81594/

And there's more :pac:

http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/roots/stories/hitler.htm

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paddy Hitler is remembered with pride in Knockainey[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
On April 11th 1911, Nicholas Cooke of Knockainey was a CC in Liverpool and his duty on that date was to baptise William Patrick Hitler. He was the child of Alex Hitler and Brigid Elizabeth Dowling.
Elizabeth was Irish born and she and her husband were Catholics.

William Paddy became a fully fledged Catholic and it was Nicholas who performed the baptismal ceremony. The certificate is in the home of Tommy Cooke, a prized possession of a man nearing 90 years of age.

William Paddy was a nephew of Adolf Hitler who died in his bunker in the closing days of World War 2. This, the belief of Tommy who in the process of leaving this historic document to some safe place where it will forever be in good hands.

Nicholas Cooke, is now resting in St. Michael’s cemetery in Tipperary town. [/FONT]

Tommy Cooke is now nearing 99 years of age.