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Girl raised by cats and dogs

  • 27-05-2009 6:56pm
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=147599805

    A five-year-old girl found living with cats and dogs has been taken into care in Russia.
    The girl, who had been shut up in a flat in the Eastern Siberian city of Chita with the animals for her entire life, could not speak Russian and acted like an dog when police took her into care.
    "For five years, the girl was 'brought up' by several dogs and cats and had never been outside," police said.
    "The unwashed girl was dressed in filthy clothes, had the clear attributes of an animal and jumped at people."
    The flat had no heat, water or sewage system.
    A police spokeswoman said the girl, known as Natasha, is being monitored by psychologists in an orphanage.
    The mother of the girl, who appears to be only two-years-old, is being questioned by police but her father has not been found yet.
    "When carers leave the room, the girl jumps at the door and barks," the police said.
    Feral children usually exhibit the behaviour of the animals with whom they have had closest contact - a condition known as the Mowgli Syndrome after the fictional child from Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book who was raised by wolves in the jungle.
    Such children have usually built strong ties with the animals with whom they lived and find the transition to normal human contact extremely traumatic.

    Be interesting to see how children would grow up if we were not taught anything/all adults disappeared. It seems they had a pet human.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭gaeilgegrinds


    Studied this in college, was fascinating.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,614 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    She can "talk" to the animals?

    :eek:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8070814.stm
    'Animal language'

    A police statement said the girl was unwashed, dressed in filthy clothes and had the "clear attributes of an animal".

    "For five years, the girl was 'brought up' by several dogs and cats and had never been outside," the statement said.

    The police said the girl had managed to master "animal language only", but seemed able to understand Russian.

    Earlier this year, President Dmitry Medvedev called for more action on child abuse.

    He said 750,000 children in Russia were living in "socially hazardous conditions".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Also known as 'feral' child.
    There was cases of it in Ireland believe it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    A five-year-old girl


    The mother of the girl, who appears to be only two-years-old,

    I may be having a stupid day, but that makes no sense :confused:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    GAAman wrote: »
    I may be having a stupid day, but that makes no sense :confused:

    Ye I know, just a mistake on the site and I put it in bold. I wish to more cases of feral children. In Ireland eh, must have a google.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    That's nothing. Imagine a child brought up by AH punters ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Ye I know, just a mistake on the site and I put it in bold. I wish to more cases of feral children. In Ireland eh, must have a google.


    Shane Dunphy is a former social worker who has written three books on his experiences through the years. One of the books has a case of feral children in it.
    I can't think of all the titles, Wednesdays Child, Hush Little Baby & another one, but they are unreal to read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Thata nathing, sure i was raised by dolphins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,456 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Is this her?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    Confab wrote: »
    That's nothing. Imagine a child brought up by AH punters ;)

    *shudders


    By the way confab, are you in bayside? i know i am :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    By the way confab, are you in bayside? i know i am :pac:

    Yeah, but don't shout it out or we'll be swamped with immigrants from AH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Is this her?

    img.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Also known as 'feral' child.
    There was cases of it in Ireland believe it or not.

    That's a strange 'believe it or not'. If it could happen anywhere I could see it happening here. Ireland is like the Royston Vasey of countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Confab wrote: »
    That's nothing. Imagine a child brought up by AH punters ;)

    Barks insanely at Nigerians, attacks parked Taxis.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    That's a strange 'believe it or not'. If it could happen anywhere I could see it happening here. Ireland is like the Royston Vasey of countries.

    Seriously it has happened. As I said in a previous post Shane Dunphy has written books on his experiences on being a social worker & has come across feral children, twins would you believe.
    Their ways & movements were feral even though they had parents & a 'home'.
    Seriously his books would make the hair stand on the back of your neck but it would also open your eyes up to the horror some people inflict on their children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    God, thats woof.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Seriously it has happened. As I said in a previous post Shane Dunphy has written books on his experiences on being a social worker & has come across feral children, twins would you believe.
    Their ways & movements were feral even though they had parents & a 'home'.
    Seriously his books would make the hair stand on the back of your neck but it would also open your eyes up to the horror some people inflict on their children.

    Was that the one that was kept in a hen house or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    GAAman wrote: »
    I may be having a stupid day, but that makes no sense :confused:
    Unless her mother is one of the Cats. In which case the police will have a hard time questioning her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭Irishpimpdude


    I heard that she is barking mad...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Volvoboy wrote: »
    God, thats woof.
    I heard that she is barking mad...

    And here's the commencement of terrible puns!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    And here's the commencement of terrible puns!!!

    Its cat, isn't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    And here's the commencement of terrible purrrrs...


    FYP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Weren't that bimbo Jordan's kids being brought up by a dog and a pussy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Is this her?

    how does that thing take a ****?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭zonEEE


    id say she'd be an animal in the bed when she grows up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    towel401 wrote: »
    how does that thing take a ****?

    out of the other mouth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    So she can speak to dogs now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222


    I heard she's a total bitch !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    From article:

    "A five-year-old girl...


    The mother of the girl, who appears to be only two-years-old..."

    GAAman wrote: »
    I may be having a stupid day, but that makes no sense :confused:


    The only explanation I can think of is that, although the girl is 5, she HAS THE APPEARANCE of a 2 year old. Possibly due to malnourishment?

    Just a theory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭wexican


    kraggy wrote: »
    From article:

    "A five-year-old girl...


    The mother of the girl, who appears to be only two-years-old..."





    The only explanation I can think of is that, although the girl is 5, she HAS THE APPEARANCE of a 2 year old. Possibly due to malnourishment?

    Just a theory.

    I assumed it meant mental age / ability. But you're probably right.

    What a terrible story however.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are a few documentated cases here as well
    Lyokha, Kaluga, Central Russia (December 2007). He had been living with a pack of wolves, had typical wolflike behavior and reactions. He was unable to speak any human language. Taken to a Moscow hospital, he received some medical treatment, a shower and nailtrim and several meals before escaping from the building. He is believed to still be in the wild.[29]

    They've lost him nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

    look here for more info on feralchildren


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Seen a thing on discovery about it a while back. Madness I tells ya


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ye I know, just a mistake on the site and I put it in bold. I wish to more cases of feral children. In Ireland eh, must have a google.

    http://www.feralchildren.com/en/showchild.php?ch=sheepboy
    The Irish Sheep Boy

    We have very little information about the Irish Sheep Boy. What there is comes from Tulp (Observationes Medicae) where he tells us that this boy resisted capture for some time (sounds familiar), and once caught and returned to human society he exhibited at least three tell-tale signs of the feral child: not wanting to change his diet (from grass and hay), enduring temperature extremes, and not wanting to stay among humans.
    Did the Irish Sheep Boy live with sheep?

    Tulp says this boy lived among wild sheep, although there is no evidence that there were any wild sheep in Ireland at that time. He was taken to Amsterdam when aged about 16, but Tulp isn't clear about what age he was captured.

    That's baaaad!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    strongr wrote: »
    id say she'd be an animal in the bed when she grows up

    Well she was raised doggy style. If she can speak to animals can she teach it?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Weren't that bimbo Jordan's kids being brought up by a dog and a pussy?

    Thats it, thread over. Give this man the €1,000


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    This nothing new,Russia and areas like that seem to have a horrendous attitude towards children.
    I saw them on tv few years back they showed over fifteen cases.One girl was 17 or older when they found her.And had no communication skills at all.
    Also the children who live in the sewers,They are dumped and kids 6 upwards are feeing them and taking care of babies and toddlers.

    I have heard of two cases in Ireland but i dont know anything about them.
    But i found this

    Kevin Halfpenny, the Hen House boy of Ireland

    A mystery in a hen house

    Three schoolboys noticed some strange activity at one of two hen houses at Halfpenny's field at Crossgar. One boy who later gave evidence about his discovery, explained how when passing one of the hen houses he heard someone walking about inside. He went over for a closer look and after checking the door, which he found locked, went to look in through the window. The windows were covered on the inside by old sacks but as he was there someone lifted the covering and peered out. "I saw either a wee boy or a wee girl with long hair", he stated. "I could see down to its waist and it had no clothes on, as far as I could see. I asked what its name was, and got no answer. I asked again but got no reply."
    Repeat visits

    The boy told the police that during the school holidays he went up to the hen houses again. This time he was accompanied by his friend. He said that once again the door was locked but when he knocked at the window the young child lifted up the sacking and put its hands up to the netting wire on the window. The children told how they next visited the hen house on two other occasions, each time with more friends, and on each occasion they saw the child, it was locked in the hen house. On the last occasion, which was about one month before the child was rescued, one of the boys, Sean McMullan told of knocking on the window. They could hear something shuffling inside then, before very long, someone came to the window and tried to lift up the bag that was covering it.
    The authorities free the Irish Chicken Boy

    The NSPCC and the police were notified. The child was named as Kevin Halfpenny, a seven-year old boy. He was immediately taken to the Nazareth Lodge Children's Home. While there he was examined by doctors who were horrified to find that he only weighed two stone. His height was a mere 30 inches high and it was claimed that he was suffering from rickets for at least five years due to continual denial of sunlight.
    http://www.feralchildren.com/en/showchild.php?ch=kevin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile



    Its like the intro of a Channel 4 documentary on her:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljVd6XS-J0s

    Dunno where the rest of it is...

    Its pretty crazy i must say...


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