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Best swim drills to stop rolling

  • 27-05-2009 10:38am
    #1
    HardyEustace
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    Hi guys,
    I'm not sure if this should be in swimming or tri forum but I'll start here.

    Anyway, a major problem I have with my swim is that I over-roll when breathing. Now I do realise that part of this is confidence in the water and endurance and being comfortable enough that you don't have to inhale half the air surrounding you while swimming.

    However I was wondering if there were any drills that people use to improve their roll or at least stop the "over-roll".

    Thanks


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  • #2
    hunnymonster
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    HE, Can you describe what you mean by over-roll? From what I see, most people underroll.
    I guess I mean two things
    1. where do you roll from (whole body, waist, head), usually (from what I see) the problems are caused more because people roll their head and shoulders only and then drop their legs
    2. What problem is the overroll causing? Do you actually flop on your back?
    If you do some gliding exercises, you'll be able to identify your sweetspot. There is an angle that allows you to breath but not slow down.
    Don't forget, you're training in a pool but racing in OW so things will be slightly different.


  • #3
    HardyEustace
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    hunnymonster wrote: »
    HE, Can you describe what you mean by over-roll? From what I see, most people underroll.
    I guess I mean two things
    1. where do you roll from (whole body, waist, head), usually (from what I see) the problems are caused more because people roll their head and shoulders only and then drop their legs

    My body position stays okay but the problem is that I want to get my full face out of the water and take a big breath (because ultimately I'm still nervous in the water, I guess) and thus rather than rolling enough to just have a bit of mouth above the water, I'm rolling so that my whole face is out of the water. Thus my hand rolls wtih me and I don't get any pull on the water.
    hunnymonster wrote: »
    2. What problem is the overroll causing? Do you actually flop on your back?
    If you do some gliding exercises, you'll be able to identify your sweetspot. There is an angle that allows you to breath but not slow down.
    Don't forget, you're training in a pool but racing in OW so things will be slightly different.

    I don't flop on my back but as mentioned above, it means that my hand, rather than being in the position to pull has started to wrap around my body as my body has twirled around so much, thus I can't get any purchase on the water.


  • #4
    griffin100
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    Don't know if this will help but it worked for me when I had problems with breathing.........

    When turning to breath I used to imagine that the surface of the water was my pillow and would turn my head to the side and roll just enough to have the side of my face lying flat on its side on the surface of the water - as if on a pillow. This allowed plenty of time / space to breath.

    Sounds a bit silly now come to think of it:D


  • #5
    interested
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    griffin100 wrote: »
    When turning to breath I used to imagine that the surface of the water was my pillow and would turn my head to the side and roll just enough to have the side of my face lying flat on its side on the surface of the water - as if on a pillow. This allowed plenty of time / space to breath.

    Probably the best advice on this is as above.

    The point previously made about the OW presenting different conditions to the pool is very true as well. Even in lake swims its possible that wind can create chop making it harder to take a breath on one side or another.
    With the brighter evenings it might be worthwhile complimenting pool swims with a trip to the sea side. Conditions will vary and will hopefully help you relax when swimming in OW - which is potentially one of the sources of your problem.


  • #6
    hunnymonster
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    I have a couple of drills that will help (I think) but there is no way I can explain them in text. Will show you when I'm up in August if you're still not happy with your roll then?


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  • #7
    HardyEustace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭HardyEustace


    interested wrote: »
    Probably the best advice on this is as above.

    The point previously made about the OW presenting different conditions to the pool is very true as well. Even in lake swims its possible that wind can create chop making it harder to take a breath on one side or another.
    With the brighter evenings it might be worthwhile complimenting pool swims with a trip to the sea side. Conditions will vary and will hopefully help you relax when swimming in OW - which is potentially one of the sources of your problem.

    I'll be OW swimming about twice a week from now. I've been sick so unable to get in the water until now. It's in the sea so it's always variable conditions!

    Yes, pillow advice is great. Thanks.

    hunnymonster wrote: »
    I have a couple of drills that will help (I think) but there is no way I can explain them in text. Will show you when I'm up in August if you're still not happy with your roll then?

    Thanks HM.


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